Neill Byrne

[TonySoprano]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

Thats the thing, he DOESNT  know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
 

[Chris Black come back]

I think McCann and his team had a highly dubious window in the summer but the pressure is really on now and he won't have made this signing lightly. Likewise, Terry isn't going to have denied him funding given the shit we are in.

[mpc123]

I get that people think he should be given a chance but reflecting on signings so far this season it’s easy to understand why people aren’t exactly on the edge of their seats frothing at the mouth to see the new guy perform.

For me we’re either out of money or we can no longer attract the quality of players we really need. Or both. Let’s face it who would choose to join Rovers as things stand unless there was no better option.

You cant base an individual signing on others and the thought process of bad signings are just over exaggerations just to fit the narrative.

2 seasons ago we was in the same position and every player was rubbish we started to win and every player was a hero. They cant be both. We are actually playing well. Im more than confident we will get out of it.

Onwards and upwards Rovers!

[Chris Black come back]

Look back at posts last month. Gotts a wasted signing. Molyneux out of form, accept bid in window please. People are entitled to their views but there is some crackers stuff on here at times.

[roversdaft]

Welcome to the Relegation scrap!

[Fal]

Look back at posts last month. Gotts a wasted signing. Molyneux out of form, accept bid in window please. People are entitled to their views but there is some crackers stuff on here at times.

They choose a different scapegoat every month

[Glyn_Wigley]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

Thats the thing, he DOESNT  know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
 

You've never played at this level either, but you do know what's required, eh?

[Bessie Red]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

Thats the thing, he DOESNT  know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
 

Yes he has!

[scawsby steve]

I get that people think he should be given a chance but reflecting on signings so far this season it’s easy to understand why people aren’t exactly on the edge of their seats frothing at the mouth to see the new guy perform.

For me we’re either out of money or we can no longer attract the quality of players we really need. Or both. Let’s face it who would choose to join Rovers as things stand unless there was no better option.

You cant base an individual signing on others and the thought process of bad signings are just over exaggerations just to fit the narrative.

2 seasons ago we was in the same position and every player was rubbish we started to win and every player was a hero. They cant be both. We are actually playing well. Im more than confident we will get out of it.

Onwards and upwards Rovers!

Two seasons ago we weren't in the same position. We were in League 2.

We're in League 1 now. Massive difference.

[silent majority]

Did the new gym affect the playing budget?

No, totally separate pot.

[Pliskin]

Why do people on here think that players cease to exist up until the moment they sign for us?

Players' career stats are there to be seen, especially for older players. And if they don't correspond fairly accurately to a player's actual ability then what does? If it didn't then Man Utd would just pluck journeymen out of the lower leagues and give them a chance.

In Byrne's case; A non-league player up until 2021. Then played a full season for Hartlepool in League 2, they finished 17th. Then in-and-out of the Tranmere, Stockport, and Bradford teams at League 2.

And we're expected to believe that he's going to make a difference for us at League 1? That Grant McCann's Doncaster Rovers are so unique in the football world, that we are going to get something out of him that none of his previous clubs have?

It's arrogant nonsense. Same as when we signed Hanlan. That our manager, unlike any of the other managers he's played for, could somehow turn him into a goalscorer. How's that going?

Nothing against the Neill Byrne personally. He's probably a decent pro. But this is an objectively bad signing given what we need and what he's likely to offer.

[dickos1]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

[TonySoprano]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

Thats the thing, he DOESNT  know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
 

Yes he has!

699 minutes accross his ENTIRE career

[TonySoprano]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

Its not just one person that doesnt fancy him, no club above league 2 has ever fancied him

[sedwardsdrfc]

Look back at posts last month. Gotts a wasted signing. Molyneux out of form, accept bid in window please. People are entitled to their views but there is some crackers stuff on here at times.

Gotts was looking a bad signing because McCann didn’t know how to play him till he fell on it by accident.

This is the issue. Sign players don’t know what to do with them or how to play them. They fail or start poorly. They get binned. We sign a new player to replace the one we signed last window. And repeat.

Is Byrne any different to Pearson. By all conventional logic he’s worse but does the same job.

I like McCann but Terry must be fuming his cash is getting thrown around in circles. It feels like Grant is getting everything his own way re signings and players and maybe needs some challenge. Like your signing Gotts to play as a 8? Why when all logic says he’s always been best as a 6. Maybe that would actually help Grant if done in the right way because the one man club thing isn’t working

[dickos1]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

Its not just one person that doesnt fancy him, no club above league 2 has ever fancied him

Nobody above conference level fancied Bailey.

You slag off every signing we make, so you’re diluting any point you may think you have

[GazLaz]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.

[StocksArmy]

Wasn’t worried to lose big characters like Wood and Anderson. Weirdly with one retiring and the other playing in a struggling League Two team if either of them was lining up for us tomorrow I would feel a whole lot better about our situation now and that says a lot about the players that have replaced them. I never missed Olowu until COR was recalled so he can be added into that now. We are deeply in the sh!t in my opinion. I’m sat here now hoping a couple of fringe players decide they want a move in order to free up some more funds and then pray we get a bit of recruitment right.

[dickos1]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.

Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago

[ncRover]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.

Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago

Do you think Byrne will be a better centre back than Owen Bailey? Because that’s the position he will be filling.

[GazLaz]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.

Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago

He played at the same level as us last season. Really easy to run the numbers and compare him to Olowu, Jay, Wood, Anderson, and Bobby who have had plenty of minutes playing centre half at L2 level of late. I have done just that.

[bigbadjack]

Welcome Neill! I hope you absolutely smash it! RTID

[1-0 to the Doncaster]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.

Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago

He played at the same level as us last season. Really easy to run the numbers and compare him to Olowu, Jay, Wood, Anderson, and Bobby who have had plenty of minutes playing centre half at L2 level of late. I have done just that.

Go on then spill the beans ...not so sure it paints a good picture...

[BillyStubbsTears]

I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?

We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.

Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets

[TonySoprano]

There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently.  Give the lad a bloody chance...!!

People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.

Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?

The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.

We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.

The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples

Its not just one person that doesnt fancy him, no club above league 2 has ever fancied him

Nobody above conference level fancied Bailey.

You slag off every signing we make, so you’re diluting any point you may think you have

Baileys injury was the reason for that, and he was far far younger

[Draytonian III]

I don’t often agree with Billy Stubbs Tears but I do on this , well said that man. I think certain people should think and perhaps research a few things before they start spouting off. Also be big enough to admit they’re wrong

[TonySoprano]

I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?

We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.

Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets

Begs the question why he actually owns the club if he refuses to make a go of it.

[Glyn_Wigley]

He's only been trusted enough to play 427 matches? Christ he must be shit!

[TonySoprano]

He's only been trusted enough to play 427 matches? Christ he must be shit!

Mostly in non league

[Glyn_Wigley]

I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?

We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.

Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets

Begs the question why he actually owns the club if he refuses to make a go of it.

I'd rather have someone with some sense than someone who would gamble with the entire future of the club.