Has grant mcann ran out of credit ?

[GazLaz]

It has been a tough on the players in the last week or so. - it would be on any team, it eventually tells.

Wycombe do have a huge budget too and a great squad of players, we would struggle against them when we are fully firing, but it’s the manner of performance today that is my biggest concern.

That’s why not making changes today was mystifying.

He can't win though can he? If he changed a winning team he'd have been heavily criticised for that!

Why would he? Maybe only from the ignorant. If he made a few changes and we did get beat he can explain his decision making. If he says changes were a necessity due to certain players running on empty, who would question that?

[Spilsby Red]

Quite a few are

[dickos1]

Yep should have rested some today, but they’ve all been great form so would’ve been replacing in form players with players who were out of form.
Catch 22

It’s not a catch 22 at all. It’s what you have a squad for. There’s enough medical data now to be ably to make smart decision in these spots. 

And if he made 4/5 changes and we got beat 4-0 do you think nobody would be saying why have we changed a team when we’re playing so well.
Both the runs we went on at back end of the last two seasons saw a consistent team selection each week. Nobody was complaining then

[GazLaz]

Yep should have rested some today, but they’ve all been great form so would’ve been replacing in form players with players who were out of form.
Catch 22

It’s not a catch 22 at all. It’s what you have a squad for. There’s enough medical data now to be ably to make smart decision in these spots. 

And if he made 4/5 changes and we got beat 4-0 do you think nobody would be saying why have we changed a team when we’re playing so well.
Both the runs we went on at back end of the last two seasons saw a consistent team selection each week. Nobody was complaining then

Have we only got 10 outfield players capable of playing? People have spent two seasons talking about the depth and strength of our squad.

[Iberian Red]

Here we go, another McCann in or out vote. Yaaaaawwwwwn. Bad day, entire team looked knackered, rest up refocus and move on, oh yes , and with the same manager.

Get a grip fella, I clearly said I want asking if we should sack him.

*wasn’t

Still hiding I see, and not answering after I've called you out. Pathetic.

Scroll up.

Hiding…where? In the data stream?

Behind your keyboard, saying things you can only fantasise about saying  to someone's face.

Still not answered my question.

The irony. You posting about hiding behind a keyboard,from a keyboard.
I dont think you're Tont Soprano, more like Christopher

[dickos1]

And the players we played today are the ones in form,
People spend half this season saying he doesn’t know his best team and there’s too much chopping and changing, then we get on a good run and keep the same team because they’re performing. We lose a game and then folk are saying he should’ve changed the line up.
What changes would you have made for today’s game?

[ncRover]

Yep should have rested some today, but they’ve all been great form so would’ve been replacing in form players with players who were out of form.
Catch 22

It’s not a catch 22 at all. It’s what you have a squad for. There’s enough medical data now to be ably to make smart decision in these spots. 

And if he made 4/5 changes and we got beat 4-0 do you think nobody would be saying why have we changed a team when we’re playing so well.
Both the runs we went on at back end of the last two seasons saw a consistent team selection each week. Nobody was complaining then

Have we only got 10 outfield players capable of playing? People have spent two seasons talking about the depth and strength of our squad.

Has McCann been traumatised by the injury crisis in that first season?
Since Dave Rennie has been brought in we’ve not had loads of injuries but have continued to spread the budget out over a lot of players. We haven’t really needed the depth that much.

It would be nice to hear him take accountability for his poor recruitment rather than in my view ask for too much from his players.

[dickos1]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

[ForsolongaRover]

I’m not sure whether anyone has used the word “resilience”, but it seems a quality which is lacking. Does the team lose confidence in the plan for the match if we concede first? Do the managerial staff, including the analysts in combination with the coaches, prepare the team for setbacks and how to react?

I make this point because the manner of defeats seems to follow a pattern, yet when the sequence begins with the opposition going ahead, the team morale and the game-plan seem to disintegrate. As a test of morale and team spirit we just cannot cope with going behind this season. It really doesn’t make sense.

[ncRover]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

[jmt23]

I think most if not all agreed the summer was a success and on paper we were looking good. Also the business in Jan has improved us again.

We just have to by hook or crook stay in the league and add again.

My only worry is 2 defeats on the trot and todays being a humiliation to all, will have knocked the confidence we were showing.

[dickos1]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

[Ian Nimmo]

The game plan for today just did not work, and this has happened previously this season and therefore Grant and his team must take responsibility, which unfortunately they seem unwilling to do.
We lost the Wigan away game due to the game plan, and then the Wigan home game due to the inept timing of the substitutions where the players were blamed for not taking chances. Yet in the following game against orient he did not repeat, so for me this is evidence he did make a mistake in the Wigan game.
Today we sat back for players who were consistently left in acres of space, not marked or challenged immediately when they got the ball. If this was down to the players, the surely this would have been sorted early in the game. However it continued throughout the game so surely this was the game plan?
Was mols left in acres of space? Absolutely not every time he got the ball, he immediately had 2 players in close proximity, and sometimes a 3rd player has back up.
I am sick of players being blamed when things go wrong, we need to look closer at our management team.
Also why have we got so many issuing instructions to the players, constantly we have Grant, Clive and Kyle all getting involved, surely it’s time to keep things more simple and have one issuing instructions during game time.

[dickos1]

The game plan for today just did not work, and this has happened previously this season and therefore Grant and his team must take responsibility, which unfortunately they seem unwilling to do.
We lost the Wigan away game due to the game plan, and then the Wigan home game due to the inept timing of the substitutions where the players were blamed for not taking chances. Yet in the following game against orient he did not repeat, so for me this is evidence he did make a mistake in the Wigan game.
Today we sat back for players who were consistently left in acres of space, not marked or challenged immediately when they got the ball. If this was down to the players, the surely this would have been sorted early in the game. However it continued throughout the game so surely this was the game plan?
Was mols left in acres of space? Absolutely not every time he got the ball, he immediately had 2 players in close proximity, and sometimes a 3rd player has back up.
I am sick of players being blamed when things go wrong, we need to look closer at our management team.
Also why have we got so many issuing instructions to the players, constantly we have Grant, Clive and Kyle all getting involved, surely it’s time to keep things more simple and have one issuing instructions during game time.

McCann has often spoken in interviews stating they all weren’t good enough including himself and the staff.
Have you been on here praising McCann and his staff after a good performance?

[Rupee92ONLY]

You can’t use “fans were happy with who we brought in at the time” as any sort of argument in favour of the recruitment. They’re the experts they’re meant to know a lot better than fans what to expect from each player, the job they’ll do etc. we signed so many with absolute no clue how we were even going to deploy them, didn’t we?

The jury is out still on the January signings, it’s too early to judge them either positively or negatively and there’s also an argument we didn’t sign enough at centre back… We needed 2 imo.

The summer you can judge and it was a disaster, only Gotts has been a (belated) success.

We got close to a point where a summer rebuild (finally) wasn’t necessary but we’ve blown that now, especially if we go down. Might now lose Bailey and Molyneux too.

[ncRover]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

So you think only one good signing in the summer? I agree on Gotts now, but Grant misprofiling him left us short in attacking midfield.

A lot of damage is done to a season with a poor summer window. You say most other clubs have poor signings but to come out of it saying only 1 good one is surely far below average, you agree?

Also on your Crew and TLT points - the fans aren’t paid to do that job!

[GazLaz]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

Haks is no certainty to age well as a good signing in league one by the way, and Frankie has had a very good game against Orient but there’s a long way to go with him also. The recruitment this year has been very poor. When’s signing Lee and playing him as a 9 is strange to me. Anonymous today. Surely you have to play a player with his ability in his best position. We game Hanlan and Sharp contracts in the summer, are we deeming them to be not good enough 7 months later? That a lot of wages on the bonfire.

[Branton Rover]

Stupid poll, getting rid of a guy with 500 managerial games under his belt is ridiculous. Have you lost your mind? Go on then, sack McCann and reappoint Schofield. Today’s game was undoubtedly our worst performance this season but I doubt that team could replicate today and do as bad again.

Our recent form has been good winning at Wimbledon and Burton, beating Orient at home and drawing with Wigan which prevented them taking all 3 points which could prove pivotal considering they’re down there too.

[tingleyrover]

What concerns me is the inability to manage a match. Whatever the circumstances we seem to be all out attack. I’m sure it’s why we lose so many winning positions and our goal difference is so bad. Winning, let’s just attack them. Losing, attack even harder. I don’t want to lose 1-0 but it’s a lot better than getting pasted!

[dickos1]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

So you think only one good signing in the summer? I agree on Gotts now, but Grant misprofiling him left us short in attacking midfield.

A lot of damage is done to a season with a poor summer window. You say most other clubs have poor signings but to come out of it saying only 1 good one is surely far below average, you agree?

Also on your Crew and TLT points - the fans aren’t paid to do that job!

I’m talking as a whole,
Last few seasons we’ve made very good signings in Jan that have transformed our seasons,
Of course fans aren’t paid to do that job but there was nothing to suggest that those two signings wouldn’t be as good as what everyone thought they would be

[dickos1]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

Haks is no certainty to age well as a good signing in league one by the way, and Frankie has had a very good game against Orient but there’s a long way to go with him also. The recruitment this year has been very poor. When’s signing Lee and playing him as a 9 is strange to me. Anonymous today. Surely you have to play a player with his ability in his best position. We game Hanlan and Sharp contracts in the summer, are we deeming them to be not good enough 7 months later? That a lot of wages on the bonfire.

Haks is a good signing at this level, think he’s already proving that.
When we signed him 2 years ago, I recall you weren’t sure he was a good signing then either.
Our recruitment this year hasn’t been great but it hasn’t been awful either

[monkeytennis]

I’m not sure whether anyone has used the word “resilience”, but it seems a quality which is lacking. Does the team lose confidence in the plan for the match if we concede first? Do the managerial staff, including the analysts in combination with the coaches, prepare the team for setbacks and how to react?

I make this point because the manner of defeats seems to follow a pattern, yet when the sequence begins with the opposition going ahead, the team morale and the game-plan seem to disintegrate. As a test of morale and team spirit we just cannot cope with going behind this season. It really doesn’t make sense.

What is Copps doing these days? I thought he was the sports psychologist type bloke, all about getting your head straight etc.

[mpc123]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

So you think only one good signing in the summer? I agree on Gotts now, but Grant misprofiling him left us short in attacking midfield.

A lot of damage is done to a season with a poor summer window. You say most other clubs have poor signings but to come out of it saying only 1 good one is surely far below average, you agree?

Also on your Crew and TLT points - the fans aren’t paid to do that job!

I’m talking as a whole,
Last few seasons we’ve made very good signings in Jan that have transformed our seasons,
Of course fans aren’t paid to do that job but there was nothing to suggest that those two signings wouldn’t be as good as what everyone thought they would be

Exactly. They were decent signings in anyones book, yet form, not fit in, what ever reason it hasnt worked.... that is football.

It doesn't mean it was bad recruitment

[drfchound]

I have read numerous times that the season will have been a success if we finish twentieth or higher and (obviously) stay up, then build on that next season.
If fifty points is the required total for that to happen, then we need to average a fraction over just one point per game.
Does anyone think that won’t happen?

[Ian Nimmo]

The game plan for today just did not work, and this has happened previously this season and therefore Grant and his team must take responsibility, which unfortunately they seem unwilling to do.
We lost the Wigan away game due to the game plan, and then the Wigan home game due to the inept timing of the substitutions where the players were blamed for not taking chances. Yet in the following game against orient he did not repeat, so for me this is evidence he did make a mistake in the Wigan game.
Today we sat back for players who were consistently left in acres of space, not marked or challenged immediately when they got the ball. If this was down to the players, the surely this would have been sorted early in the game. However it continued throughout the game so surely this was the game plan?
Was mols left in acres of space? Absolutely not every time he got the ball, he immediately had 2 players in close proximity, and sometimes a 3rd player has back up.
I am sick of players being blamed when things go wrong, we need to look closer at our management team.
Also why have we got so many issuing instructions to the players, constantly we have Grant, Clive and Kyle all getting involved, surely it’s time to keep things more simple and have one issuing instructions during game time.

McCann has often spoken in interviews stating they all weren’t good enough including himself and the staff.
Have you been on here praising McCann and his staff after a good performance?

Well he didn’t say that after the Wigan home game.
We have only won 4 in the last 23 league games, how many times has he said the management team got it wrong?

[Chris Black come back]

Our recruitment has not been good. Nobody sentient can claim otherwise. It might be some of the loans in January could be just enough to get us over the line. But that almost doubles down on the poor signings made in the summer window. We’ve given ourselves concrete boots with how the summer window unfolded. Senior players signed on presumably good money and then either benched or banished. You could forgive that for one of our youth or even a loan but not senior lads. We’ve got to be far better at this. It’s not good enough.

[Draytonian III]

For what it's worth, I dont think we should sack him at the moment. 
But I DO think his credit is running low.

Mcann is very good at saying the right things, but let's see where we are in 5 games.


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I honestly think you thrive on us getting beat, you never say anything positive, I think you were gutted that we won on Tuesday, it’s 10 point from 18, that’s dreadful isn’t it. In fact I now have doubts that you actually support the club and are a supporter of another club.
 Good forbid we get to Wembley and don’t get relegated.

[Rupee92ONLY]

I can’t believe there is anyone trying to argue our recruitment has been anything other than awful. It is either a wind up or delusion. It is fine to criticise some things and some personnel you know? Like, you aren’t going to have your season ticket taking off of you. You don’t get given a special hospitality box for refraining and it certainly isn’t going to kill you.

[Draytonian III]

A couple of points from today’s match . We played rubbish. Wycombe played well

[GazLaz]

No manager in the history of football would come out and say the players they’ve signed who are still at the club were bad signings.
We’ve made some great signings this year and some poor ones, pretty much every club in the country would say the same

What was the good summer business with regards to contract extensions and signings for you dicko?

Good signings this season
Gotts
Lee
Clark
Francis
Haks

Alsos when we signed crew, TLT, everyone was over the moon with those

So you think only one good signing in the summer? I agree on Gotts now, but Grant misprofiling him left us short in attacking midfield.

A lot of damage is done to a season with a poor summer window. You say most other clubs have poor signings but to come out of it saying only 1 good one is surely far below average, you agree?

Also on your Crew and TLT points - the fans aren’t paid to do that job!

I’m talking as a whole,
Last few seasons we’ve made very good signings in Jan that have transformed our seasons,
Of course fans aren’t paid to do that job but there was nothing to suggest that those two signings wouldn’t be as good as what everyone thought they would be

We make very good signings every January that dramatically improve our season… until we don’t.