Vinicius Junior

[scawsby steve]

Racially abused by one of the Benfica players last night. An investigation is taking place.

If UEFA are serious about stamping out racism, there needs to be huge consequences for the player and for Benfica.

[grayx]

Racially abused by one of the Benfica players last night. An investigation is taking place.

If UEFA are serious about stamping out racism, there needs to be huge consequences for the player and for Benfica.

I just assumed it was a d**khead fan, but a player??. Thats a lot more serious and inexcusable.

[MachoMadness]

Pulled his shirt over his mouth to hide what he said from the cameras. Absolute cowardly shithouse behaviour. Should be banned for the season.

[Filo]

Benfica defending it by posting still pictures saying they can’t have heard what he said because if the distance between them is a joke and a very weak defence

The guilty action for me was him hiding his mouth and then his reaction to Vini reporting it to the ref, how did he know what vini said to the ref to react like that?

[Draytonian III]

Or there could be a very small chance that it didn’t happen the way it’s been portrayed and the Benfica player didn’t say what he has supposed to have said. The governing body has to be a 100% sure before action is taken if not it could open up another can of worms, if it is proven throw the book at him, they can’t act if the total proof isn’t there.

[DRFC_AjA]

Two people in the whole world know what was said. Actually,  one. But circle the wagons, light the fires, grab the pitch forks. Last one to say I stand with Vini #justiceforvin is a big fat racist. Or maybe just wait for the investigation

[rich1471]

In 9 years at real Madrid he has claimed he has been he racially abused 20 times ,I'm not saying he hasn't but that's a lot of times something needs to be done by the powers from above for it too stop going on

[GazLaz]

In 9 years at real Madrid he has claimed he has been he racially abused 20 times ,I'm not saying he hasn't but that's a lot of times something needs to be done by the powers from above for it too stop going on

It happens regularly over there from the fans, was it last season or the season before he walked off the pitch because of it. He’s a flashy, self confident black man and there are a lot of people that don’t like flashy, self confident black men. It’s a disgrace. The perpetrators shouldn’t be allowed to play football or go to a football match again.

[Draytonian III]

I agree with what you say but I think there might be bit more to it, I can’t imagine he being much of a “ team player “ after his tantrum about the Ballon D’ Or.  Racism shouldn’t happen on sports fields of any standard, but he seems to have had 26 incidents in 9 years which makes you start think is he being targeted or are some of them being made up

[GazLaz]

I agree with what you say but I think there might be bit more to it, I can’t imagine he being much of a “ team player “ after his tantrum about the Ballon D’ Or.  Racism shouldn’t happen on sports fields of any standard, but he seems to have had 26 incidents in 9 years which makes you start think is he being targeted or are some of them being made up

He’s the highest profile black player in Spain (possibly the world) and is disliked. He gets abuse at most grounds he goes to. Why would he want to make it up?

Black footballers is this country get more stick for their image, performances, flaunting cash, whatever it may be, than their white counterparts. It’s just a fact. The undercurrent of racism still exists.

[Blue Green Algae]

I agree with what you say but I think there might be bit more to it, I can’t imagine he being much of a “ team player “ after his tantrum about the Ballon D’ Or.  Racism shouldn’t happen on sports fields of any standard, but he seems to have had 26 incidents in 9 years which makes you start think is he being targeted or are some of them being made up

What does him being a "team player" have to do with him being racially abused?

[GazLaz]

I agree with what you say but I think there might be bit more to it, I can’t imagine he being much of a “ team player “ after his tantrum about the Ballon D’ Or.  Racism shouldn’t happen on sports fields of any standard, but he seems to have had 26 incidents in 9 years which makes you start think is he being targeted or are some of them being made up

Ballon D'or nominee "not a team player"!! How can you get to that level in a team sport without contributing hugely to the team you are playing for?

What does him being a "team player" have to do with him being racially abused?

[Draytonian III]

I’m only going on what I read about him, but there was some falling out when he didn’t win the Ballon D’ Or a few years ago, when Rodri won it .

[selby]

Wish we had him here, it's fear of how good he is that causes the problem.
 And there is more of it in Spain than here.

[DRFC_AjA]

If its proven, then the player who did it needs to be banned for life. Benfica should have waited for the investigation too as tweeting "were not racist because our legend is black" is beyond ridiculous

BUT what is happening now is no different to shouting someones a terrorist because they look different......

Its racist. Because Rio Ferdinand said so. Despite not waiting for the investigation to he finished

Hes a terrorist. Because hes got a funny name. Because Tommy Robinson said so. Despite the police not finishing their investigation

[NickDRFC]

The Benfica player hid his mouth before he spoke. He didn’t do that because he was calling him a nobhead. The reaction in some quarters is sad to see but sadly not a surprise, racism is still a big issue. Mourinho deserves some sort of punishment as well for his stupid comments.

[welloffside]

This young man, Vinicius, seems to me to attract this kind of confrontation. There have been several times when he has called 'foul'. More than many others I'd wager.  Opponents targeting him because they know it will result in a reaction

Now, either he is just unlucky, or, as seems to me, a target for baiters & bullies . Think back to schooldays. A boy would get picked on for a distinctive physical feature, the bullies revel if he bit back. No response and they moved on, looking for another 'easy' target.

If his opponent did indeed make the comments that are alleged he must feel the weight of punishment. However, my concern is that as far as can be seen, at the moment, this cannot be proved. It is one man's word against another. That again causes me concern.

It must be said, reading reports, other parties involved in this whole shabby incident have not exactly covered themselves in glory. There are one or two who perhaps should take a long hard look in the mirror.



I am worried that players might take the easy option and imply racist comment when none existed.

[KingKendrick]

This young man, Vinicius, seems to me to attract this kind of confrontation. There have been several times when he has called 'foul'. More than many others I'd wager.  Opponents targeting him because they know it will result in a reaction

Now, either he is just unlucky, or, as seems to me, a target for baiters & bullies . Think back to schooldays. A boy would get picked on for a distinctive physical feature, the bullies revel if he bit back. No response and they moved on, looking for another 'easy' target.

If his opponent did indeed make the comments that are alleged he must feel the weight of punishment. However, my concern is that as far as can be seen, at the moment, this cannot be proved. It is one man's word against another. That again causes me concern.

It must be said, reading reports, other parties involved in this whole shabby incident have not exactly covered themselves in glory. There are one or two who perhaps should take a long hard look in the mirror.



I am worried that players might take the easy option and imply racist comment when none existed.

Welloffside you are well offside on this one. Being arrogant on or off this pitch is no excuse for being racially abused. Video footage of fans in the crowd that benfica game making monkey gestures. The fact of the matter why cover your mouth if you are confident what you are saying is above board

[EasyforDennis]

Have you considered that he gets abuse not because he is black but because he winds opposition fans up and he is a t**t?.
Its never his fault is it?

[GazLaz]

Have you considered that he gets abuse not because he is black but because he winds opposition fans up and he is a t**t?.
Its never his fault is it?
He will be signing for Liverpool soon. 

One of the worst posts I’ve ever read on here and that’s a competitive heat.

[EasyforDennis]

All about opinions.

[wilts rover]

Have you considered that he gets abuse not because he is black but because he winds opposition fans up and he is a t**t?.
Its never his fault is it?

Have you ever considered you are defending racist actions? Actions which are a criminal offence in this country and many others worldwide.

[MachoMadness]

A lot of these past incidents are pretty cut and dry, as well. They aren't exactly he said she said. In many cases there is footage of crowd members making monkey chants. Not to mention several incidents where mannequins dressed up like him are publicly lynched and hanged from bridges.

As we've seen throughout history, there's always an excuse. Oh, he was celebrating too much. He said something first. He brings it on himself. If it's wasn't his dance in the corner flag or his attitude it'd be something else, there always is.

Have you considered that he gets abuse not because he is black but because he winds opposition fans up and he is a t**t?.
Its never his fault is it?

What isn't his fault? Being black?

[EasyforDennis]

The colour of his skin shouldnt come into it. The bloke is a wind up merchant as shown by his celebrations to the home crowd after scoring. If the colour of his skin was any other colour I would still have the same opinion of him.

[Chris Black come back]

You see it on here quite a bit as well, intended or not. Just have a think about the players who get criticism on here consistently for being 'lazy' or 'disinterested' or 'doesn't put a shift in'.

[GazLaz]

You see it on here quite a bit as well, intended or not. Just have a think about the players who get criticism on here consistently for being 'lazy' or 'disinterested' or 'doesn't put a shift in'.

Black players get more criticism than white ones. That’s just a fact. Call it racism, ingrained stereotypes or just ignorance, it happens on here, in the stands and throughout football. Throughout all walks of life as well.

“Why do we need a black history month?” “don’t white lives matter?” We hear it all the time.

[IDM]

Have you considered that he gets abuse not because he is black but because he winds opposition fans up and he is a t**t?.
Its never his fault is it?

But that’s all irrelevant if the subsequent abuse is racist in nature.

[Blue Green Algae]

The colour of his skin shouldnt come into it. The bloke is a wind up merchant as shown by his celebrations to the home crowd after scoring. If the colour of his skin was any other colour I would still have the same opinion of him.

What was so provocative about his celebration?

[i_ateallthepies]

Billy Sharp winds up the opposition fans lots of times when he scores and plenty on here love him for it.  Are you one who thinks it's ok when we give it but not when it's given back?

[IDM]

Billy Sharp winds up the opposition fans lots of times when he scores and plenty on here love him for it.  Are you one who thinks it's ok when we give it but not when it's given back?

Winding opposition up, either giving or taking, is one thing on its own.   So yes, if you give it, you have to be able to take it.

Adding racism to the wind up/abuse is another matter entirely and clearly over steps what is acceptable.

Just because someone may deserve to receive some “stick”, doesn’t justify racist abuse.