Molyneux value

[ncRover]

Just noticed that Molyneux is 28 next week.

He’s a great player for us, but I wondered what sort of price would be right for us if someone came in for him in the summer?

He has most likely peaked after playing non-stop for the last 3 years.

Interested to hear what people think!

[rich1471]

Actually think gotta and bailey have a better sell on value that molly

[Pintolager]

I might have misunderstood GM's comment in an interview when he said that Moly and Bailey were worth around £2-3 million? Whether that is individually or combined I am not sure.

[Alan Southstand]

It was £3M each! I think we’d be very lucky to get anything over the £1M mark for Mols. Bailey, as I’ve said previously, is effectively 3 players in one, so replacing him will be very costly, hence his value should be much higher. I’d prefer if we kept both and upgraded other parts of the squad.

That’s assuming we want to progress next season.

[nightporter]

We'd be lucky to get over  £250,000 for anyone in our squad.

[GazLaz]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

[Bessie Red]

I think Mols, Bailey & Gotts will all stay with us for the forseeable!!

[Padge_DRFC]

He only got a year left on his current deal too which also puts the value down. I'd be adding another year on ASAP so at least no free leave next year whilst likely still decent

[Move DRFC]

Hopefully Mols becomes our new Coppinger and stays for years to come. Agree I can't seen anyone bidding more than 500k for him and I don't think we'd accept any less than 1m. Pretty confident he stays. Bailey though after all these goals will be sought after this summer.

[Sammy Chung was King]

If any of our players, would only bring half a million, I wouldn’t sell them. Molyneux is worth one and a half to two million, it would be more if he was younger. Bailey though not as talented a player as Molyneux, has different characteristics, he is adaptable and can play in defence or midfield and has a knack for scoring goals, because he is younger around two and a half million his value.

Gott I would say around the million to million and a half mark. I wouldn’t trust our scouting to replace them if they went. There seems no clear thinking g in recruiting players. We make a pigs ear of it every summer and put it right in January.

[In the box]

I might have misunderstood GM's comment in an interview when he said that Moly and Bailey were worth around £2-3 million? Whether that is individually or combined I am not sure.

Bailey has a value if a championship side but Mols is L1 player and hasn’t the edge to go up a division and hold down a place . Who says Rovers could cash in for £2-3 million it’s unlikely that sort of offer would ever be made.

[Colemans Left Hook]

i think it was Wrexham who offered £750,000 in January for Diamond of Stockport  who wanted 1.5 million.

Jack Diamond you will recall is the bloke who almost ended up in jail - found not guilty

Burton turned down £1 million for Beasley in January .

I could see Molyneux sheepishly going to Wrexham when they don't go up.

£800,000

[mpc123]

The difference with mols is he now gets double marked.

The value that gives to other players and the whole team. His stats have been commented as high too.

His defending and tracking back is alot better than most wingers, of which is very important in our shape.

To sell him, he would take some replacing too, so a tough one.

[drfcsteve]

i think it was Wrexham who offered £750,000 in January for Diamond of Stockport  who wanted 1.5 million.

Jack Diamond you will recall is the bloke who almost ended up in jail - found not guilty

Burton turned down £1 million for Beasley in January .

I could see Molyneux sheepishly going to Wrexham when they don't go up.

£800,000

I don’t think he’d really fit Wrexham’s system, unless he played there as a wing back which seems a waste. But agree it’s a team like them that would be most likely to splash the cash and take a risk.

[Rupee92ONLY]

He isn’t worth a million. We will keep him quite easily I reckon, which is fantastic.

[GazLaz]

If any of our players, would only bring half a million, I wouldn’t sell them. Molyneux is worth one and a half to two million, it would be more if he was younger. Bailey though not as talented a player as Molyneux, has different characteristics, he is adaptable and can play in defence or midfield and has a knack for scoring goals, because he is younger around two and a half million his value.

Gott I would say around the million to million and a half mark. I wouldn’t trust our scouting to replace them if they went. There seems no clear thinking g in recruiting players. We make a pigs ear of it every summer and put it right in January.

He’s got 4 non penalty goals this season and doesn’t have the physicality to match the to players in L1 never mind the Championship. No club would value him at £1.5-£2m. Impossible.

[Usher wide.]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

Will Grigg £3 million.

John Marquis £1.95 (?) million.

Just off the top of my head.

It happens.

[GazLaz]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

Will Grigg £3 million.

John Marquis £1.95 (?) million.

Just off the top of my head.

It happens.

Crazy things do happen in football.

They were both strikers that scored 20 goals in the season before they moved.

Just for people that want us to spend money on “20 goal a season strikers”. One of those men scored 7 non penalty goals in the first full season after his move and the other scored 1.

It’s almost as if you can’t buy a 20 goal per season strike isn’t it!

[Rupee92ONLY]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

Will Grigg £3 million.

John Marquis £1.95 (?) million.

Just off the top of my head.

It happens.

Marquis didn’t cost anywhere near that and both are centre forwards. You have different requirements when looking for different positions.

Molyneux is a winger… Pace will be high up the requirements when looking to spend a ton on a winger. You don’t spend £1M on a winger with ok speed.

[ncRover]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

Will Grigg £3 million.

John Marquis £1.95 (?) million.

Just off the top of my head.

It happens.

Crazy things do happen in football.

They were both strikers that scored 20 goals in the season before they moved.

Just for people that want us to spend money on “20 goal a season strikers”. One of those men scored 7 non penalty goals in the first full season after his move and the other scored 1.

It’s almost as if you can’t buy a 20 goal per season strike isn’t it!

The go and get a “20 goal a season striker” stuff is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Only ONE attacker (Charlie Kelman) got more than 20 league goals last season and he played every single game.

So let’s say every League One had two serious striking options, the chances of any given one getting 20+ was a 1 in 48 chance.

Then past results do not indicate future returns. You’re better off looking at which centre forward attributes would complement and help your existing team / tactics and then go from there.

Even then if that player isn’t prolific, what does it matter if you have a good cohesive team?! No one for Lincoln or Cardiff has that amount of goals.

Devante Cole and Dion Charles have good recent goal returns in League One but either would make us worse because they’re shite!

[i_ateallthepies]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

Will Grigg £3 million.

John Marquis £1.95 (?) million.

Just off the top of my head.

It happens.

Marquis didn’t cost anywhere near that and both are centre forwards. You have different requirements when looking for different positions.

Molyneux is a winger… Pace will be high up the requirements when looking to spend a ton on a winger. You don’t spend £1M on a winger with ok speed.

Copps wasn't especially speedy, he had intelligence and craft and always made space to get a decent cross in.  Anyone would pay £1M for someone with his talent.

[Rupee92ONLY]

If anyone was going to buy Luke it would have happened last season. 28 year old L1 players don’t carry much value at all.

Will Grigg £3 million.

John Marquis £1.95 (?) million.

Just off the top of my head.

It happens.

Marquis didn’t cost anywhere near that and both are centre forwards. You have different requirements when looking for different positions.

Molyneux is a winger… Pace will be high up the requirements when looking to spend a ton on a winger. You don’t spend £1M on a winger with ok speed.

Copps wasn't especially speedy, he had intelligence and craft and always made space to get a decent cross in.

That’s true but I don’t think Molyneux is Coppinger’s level of class and he’d been doing it in the championship for a couple of years before anyone became seriously interested in him. Up to this season, Molyneux performances have all come in the basement division.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Mols value is declining, along with his contract, age and returns this season. There still maybe interest in the summer from clubs who might make a cheeky undervalue bid knowing all of the above.

Much depends on him whether he fancies a crack elsewhere bit I can't see any clubs offering any more than 400k at best. No doubt, a number of clubs could attract him on wages but might not be willing to stump up an agreeable fee,  although that could depend on his release clause in his contract.

[i_ateallthepies]

I should have highlighted the part of your post that I was commenting on Rupee, it was only your point about pace that I was debating with you, not Molyneux.

[johnny rovers]

Hopefully Mols becomes our new Coppinger and stays for years to come. Agree I can't seen anyone bidding more than 500k for him and I don't think we'd accept any less than 1m. Pretty confident he stays. Bailey though after all these goals will be sought after this summer.

If you want Mols to be our next Coppinger, then you must rate him as highly as Cops.

For me Coppinger's all round ability is head and shoulders above Mols. I don't think he has what it takes to feature in a side to mount a serious challenge in this division. I'd liked to be proved wrong, but I seriously don't think he is a top end league 1 player/have a stint at the championship player.

[Plumbster]

I am not sure what Copps’ role is now but I wish he spent time coaching how to make space for self and others- he was brilliant at that.

[drfcsteve]

My interpretation when people say he could be the next Coppinger is they’re saying he’ll stay for a long time and retire with us. I don’t think anyone is saying he’s anywhere near as good ability wise?

[mpc123]

Mols has more speed and tracking back as a modern player. Mccann has massively bought on Mols.

Peronally 1m for Mols, Bailey could be £3m and when people slag off Mccann and his team with others with big values like Gotts and we have seen a decent offer for Mcgrath.

Not only is the league position , cup runs but we are growing as a club in so many ways. He will be the one driving that.

Plus also the trust created tp have a slightly bigger budget if that is the case, is because its Mccann.

What I love about Mccann is the passion for Doncaster Rovers.

Now a club like ours overall you would be very lucky to get another one of them.

Just think when looking to remove him or even think about it.

He is capable of replacing the Baileys and others when sold too, without a huge budget.

The challenge for us really and will always be when we hit the Champipnship, and it will happen with Mccann.

Yet his approach to finding these gems will really help us survive in their too.

[Rupee92ONLY]

Crazy figures and miles wrong.

[mpc123]

Explain. Mccann doesn't think they are crazy.