SSN Billy to Burnley Link

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I can't see Burnley being his preferred option and other interested clubs are now likely to come out of the woodwork and put their bids in.

I still think £1m is a lot to pay for anyone. I'm sure there are one or two other possibilities out there that might come a similar route to Billy or, from Leagues 1 & 2 or Scotland.

[Drover]

MrFrost wrote:

I've heard today that the reason our bid was rejected was because we wanted to pay with installments every month and Sheff Utd wanted it up front. Makes sense.

I think thats unlikely,what advantage would Rovers get from paying in instalments?We are Hardly fighting the tax man off are we? and do you really think Rovers would risk losing signing Billy for the sake of trying to pay in instalments?I doubt it.

[RoversAlias]

Well if they've had a bid accepted you can be sure that as soon as we found out then JR would be back off to the Blades and seeing what that acceptable bid is. One way or another, this could be resolved soon.

If he signs for Burnley, fine. Far better than him joining the likes of Leeds or Barnsley...I don't think we could win an outright bidding war with Burnley, but maybe localiy and his past with this club could sway him in our direction.

If not, we move on. Surely there's some other targets that SOD has his transfer budget earmarked for in the fairly likely event that we don't sign Billy Sharp.

[Red Wizard]

What Billy needs to look at is how many games is he going to get at Burnley. I still feel he will be a Rover. Hope i am right.

[coventryrover]

It all comes down to Billy to be honest.  HE is the one to decide where he will ply his trade, not Sheff U, Burnley or Rovers.

It is very naive for us to think Billy will turn down £xxx to come to Rovers on £yyyyy.

I'd love him to come here, mainly due to his attitude but WE must be realistic about our wages etc.  If we can only afford to pay £5k a week then so be it.  Unless the donny public go to the keepmoat in droves it will always be the same.

Do the donny public want a successful club?  You could argue no as a great football, in the championship, at a family friendly stadium isnt exactly pulling them in.

[Barmby Rover]

RoversAlias wrote:

Well if they've had a bid accepted you can be sure that as soon as we found out then JR would be back off to the Blades and seeing what that acceptable bid is. One way or another, this could be resolved soon.

If he signs for Burnley, fine. Far better than him joining the likes of Leeds or Barnsley...I don't think we could win an outright bidding war with Burnley, but maybe localiy and his past with this club could sway him in our direction.

If not, we move on. Surely there's some other targets that SOD has his transfer budget earmarked for in the fairly likely event that we don't sign Billy Sharp.

This is where the system goes wrong, a club can be given so much for being abject failures, and so can outbid and obtain players far beyond their normal means. However,if it is true that Billy has signed for them it shows that money talks for Billy Sharp as it does for so many other players. There are more good players around, and we will find another goal scorer I am sure.

[redmist]

I played in a 5 aside tournament 10 days ago and in one of the teams was a senior rovers player who I had a good chat to and one of the subjects I brought up was the Billy saga, He told me the bid was £650k and in his opinion the club should break the bank to get him as he is (as we know) a great player on and off the pitch, also he desperately wants to stay at Rovers.

[Jonathan]

Barmby Rover wrote:

if it is true that Billy has signed for them it shows that money talks for Billy Sharp

You are the first to suggest that he has signed for Burnley.

[Barmby Rover]

If is a big word in that sentence.

[coventryrover]

Barmby Rover wrote:

RoversAlias wrote:

Well if they've had a bid accepted you can be sure that as soon as we found out then JR would be back off to the Blades and seeing what that acceptable bid is. One way or another, this could be resolved soon.

If he signs for Burnley, fine. Far better than him joining the likes of Leeds or Barnsley...I don't think we could win an outright bidding war with Burnley, but maybe localiy and his past with this club could sway him in our direction.

If not, we move on. Surely there's some other targets that SOD has his transfer budget earmarked for in the fairly likely event that we don't sign Billy Sharp.

This is where the system goes wrong, a club can be given so much for being abject failures, and so can outbid and obtain players far beyond their normal means. However,if it is true that Billy has signed for them it shows that money talks for Billy Sharp as it does for so many other players. There are more good players around, and we will find another goal scorer I am sure.

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I think the same would apply to the normal working mand and woman using this forum.  Heck £5k extra a year, never mind a week, would do it

[PDX_Rover]

If BS does goes to Burnley that's a REAL kicker for us.  We can moan about season ticket sales and so on, but signing a player like Billy shows some ambition AND would probably add a number to the season ticket holders.  

The club is in a catch 22 situation - on the one hand they bemoan the lack of support from the Doncaster area yet on the other hand they can't market their way out of a paper bag.

It frustrates the f**k out of me.

To grow the club has to:

(a) Really put some effort into the off the field activities - it's been discussed on here so so so many times now.  You pay peanuts....

(b) Get Sharp signed - put a marker down FFS.  If you buy him, they will come.

[Filo]

The key to all this is what was the bid and can we match it? Unless Sheff Utd don't want to sell to us. What is clear now is that Billy has no future at Sheff Utd. My belief is that Billy holds the aces here, he knows theres no bedding it at Rovers, he knows he fits in here and has spoke highly of the manager, I would n't rule im out of coming here yet unless Burnley's offer is a ridiculous one

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Link

SHEFFIELD United have accepted an offer from Burnley for Billy Sharp, The Star understands.

The striker, who recently returned to Bramall Lane following a loan spell at Doncaster Rovers, seems destined to leave Kevin Blackwell's side after being granted permission to speak with the Lancashire club.

Leeds are also known to be interested in Sharp while Rovers had a £600,000 bid rejected by United's board of directors last month.

However, it is believed that Burnley's valuation is closer to the £1.6m fee Sharp commanded when he returned to United from Scunthorpe in July 2007.

Former Sheffield Wednesday manager Brian Laws, now in charge at Turf Moor, completed the capture of Wolves' Chris Iwelumo yesterday.
Laws worked with Sharp at Glanford Park.

[coventryrover]

Snods Shinpad wrote:

Link

SHEFFIELD United have accepted an offer from Burnley for Billy Sharp, The Star understands.

The striker, who recently returned to Bramall Lane following a loan spell at Doncaster Rovers, seems destined to leave Kevin Blackwell's side after being granted permission to speak with the Lancashire club.

Leeds are also known to be interested in Sharp while Rovers had a £600,000 bid rejected by United's board of directors last month.

However, it is believed that Burnley's valuation is closer to the £1.6m fee Sharp commanded when he returned to United from Scunthorpe in July 2007.

Former Sheffield Wednesday manager Brian Laws, now in charge at Turf Moor, completed the capture of Wolves' Chris Iwelumo yesterday.
Laws worked with Sharp at Glanford Park.

If true then theres no way we can match that.  We are a small fish in a big pond, thus must cut our cloth accordingly

[MrFrost]

Closer to 1.6 million?
That would rule us out.

[steve@dcfd]

Burnley already have Patterson, Fletcher, Nugent, Thompson, Illeuwmo   and they want Billy . Either some of those are going if not the Billy has to make a decision on whether he plays regularly or has to fight for a place. The money will come in to it has it does in everybody’s life.

JR and the board will have to make a decision whether we sign are No 1 target or like Shackell he signs for another club.  We still do not know if Oster, Hayter and Wilson have signed or whether we are keeping Stock. Looks like the board will be asking Sean to build again and still progress. So let’s send out a message and compete to sign Billy ensure we sign the other three and keep Brian. The squad will still be intact and then get another centre half, left back and loanees, season long to ensure we progress again.

[DannyRovers]

Joe Garner it is then?

[Snods Shinpad 2]

MrFrost wrote:

Closer to 1.6 million?
That would rule us out.

Hate to be a smart arse but £600,001 is closer to £1.6m than £600,000. We're just speculating. Maybe Burnley bid ten quid more than us. We just don't know.

[Chris]

If they want anything close to £1.6m (and with the parachute payments Burnley can afford that) we can forget signing Sharp.

It looks like we need to move on to other targets.

[Dutch Uncle]

coventryrover wrote:

Snods Shinpad wrote:

Link

SHEFFIELD United have accepted an offer from Burnley for Billy Sharp, The Star understands.

The striker, who recently returned to Bramall Lane following a loan spell at Doncaster Rovers, seems destined to leave Kevin Blackwell's side after being granted permission to speak with the Lancashire club.

Leeds are also known to be interested in Sharp while Rovers had a £600,000 bid rejected by United's board of directors last month.

However, it is believed that Burnley's valuation is closer to the £1.6m fee Sharp commanded when he returned to United from Scunthorpe in July 2007.

Former Sheffield Wednesday manager Brian Laws, now in charge at Turf Moor, completed the capture of Wolves' Chris Iwelumo yesterday.
Laws worked with Sharp at Glanford Park.

If true then theres no way we can match that.  We are a small fish in a big pond, thus must cut our cloth accordingly

Unless there's something wrong with my computer, the text in that article has just changed to say there is interest from Burnley but no bid

Mind you - t'interweb in cloggieland gets mashed up in the windmills sometimes  

[Snods Shinpad 2]

You're right Dutch. They have changed the text:

BURNLEY have expressed an interest in signing Sheffield United striker Billy Sharp.

The Lancashire club, who were relegated from the Premier League last season, are understood to have approached there Championship rivals earlier today.

But despite reports to the contrary, The Star has learned that Bramall Lane's board of directors are yet to receive an official bid for the marksman.

Indeed, Burnley are believed to be among a number of teams monitoring Sharp's situation at Bramall Lane.

Former Sheffield Wednesday boss Brian Laws, who took charge at the Turf Moor club in January, has already bolstered his attack by capturing Wolves' Chris Iwelumo for an undisclosed fee.

He worked with Sharp during the players previous spell at Scunthorpe.

[Old Popsider]

They didn't get Sean and I reckon they won't get Billy. JR has bid the 600k and maybe that was just a starting bid?

[Savvy]

Don't we have money in the bank from the sale of Wellens and Mills?

[Lytham Rover]

Savvy wrote:

Don't we have money in the bank from the sale of Wellens and Mills?

gordon frigging bennett  back to cloud cuckoo land!!!

[Master Katesby]

erm, It's okay the club blaming poor ticket sales and attendances for the lack on money available in the transfer market, but surely buying players such as Sharp will increase the attendances both in the short term and long term. I'm sick and tired of the club blaming the attendances, they should consider making a big name signing of two, then see how they improve, as our league position will. Not rocket science?

[vaya]

Hypothetical arguement though isn't it?

Sharp actually playing for the majority of last season didn't demonstrably increase attendances, so why should signing him suddenly provide the increase in income to offset blowing the club's budget on him?

[graingrover]

Sharp will put 2,500 ST in the kitty and prevent the core of our squad disintegrating .

[coventryrover]

graingrover wrote:

Sharp will put 2,500 ST in the kitty and prevent the core of our squad disintegrating .

would you bet that graing?

I would love sharp at the rovers but there are plenty of strikers out there

[wilts rover]

Master Katesby wrote:

erm, It's okay the club blaming poor ticket sales and attendances for the lack on money available in the transfer market, but surely buying players such as Sharp will increase the attendances both in the short term and long term. I'm sick and tired of the club blaming the attendances, they should consider making a big name signing of two, then see how they improve, as our league position will. Not rocket science?

No but is the sort of thinking that got Crystal Palace where they are now.

[BobG]

Hear hear Vaya. I don't recall ever seeing a signing increase the attendance more than momentarily. of course, if we signed Kaka or Ronaldo or someone that wouldn't hold good. But for the sort of player like Billy Sharp, just what makes folk think the attendance would go up and stay up? It certainly won't be the prospect of promotion will it? We didn't manage that last season even though we had Billy. We actually lost attendances whilst he was here. I agree that that was probably due to the economy and to second season blues, but I'm buggered if I can see any reason at all that would reverse that trend.

BobG