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gartom

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OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« on June 10, 2010, 03:32:40 pm by gartom »
Well first of all, I have to say I am rather ‘hurt’ by some unkind comments on the forum today. It seems I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t let you know about the Rovers’ plans.

Lets be honest – last season, John rang me as excited as I’d never heard him– and we thought we had some brilliant signings in the bag.
Then at the 11th hour, events overtook us and these players went elsewhere.
At the time I did nt see anyone asking me not to post – quite the opposite   - people were asking for as much info, as soon as possible. We are fans, and its natural we want info – and I was trying to respond to this need !!!

In the end we got some good players – maybe even better players....I thought Sharp did OK – didn’t you…??....but it just went to show that maybe no information was better….
I got shot down in flames – and OK – I deserved it – but it did seem really newsworthy and more importantly, realistic news at the time.

Now back to the present…

We’ve had loads of posts complaining about the lack of info. Well, see above!!

We could post every day saying – there are ‘ongoing negotiations’ / ‘behind the scenes’ activity – that kind of no news ‘spin’ – I’m happy to tell you this every day if you want – but really – would you want that ?

Our media team feel the same way – and it should be obvious that we are not sat back hoping the best players come knocking at our door and begging to sign for us…..we are doing ‘stuff’ – but we wont go public until the deal is done, and we don’t want to alert other clubs (as we’ve said many times before)…but they could post this ‘non–info’ if you’d like!

I spoke to John this lunchtime.....and,as to the signings we’ve tried to sort out recently – OK they did nt happen – but we wont be held to ransom, we have budgets to work with, and we are trying to run a tight ship.
With Kennedy, Leicester came in with a late, silly offer – we decided not to enter in to an auction – and so decided not to pursue him any further.

Stating the obvious – we are looking at other targets – in fact we have already sorted out an offer for another left back – so just be patient!.....
As some have rightly pointed out on the forum, defenders are not such a problem….and JR and SOD are quite relaxed about us progressing this  - and reckon we have some really good targets to go at.
A similar situation exists regarding us securing a good central defender too….yes we have sorted out a target there as well…..so rest assured we have a few plan A / B / C etc. for these eventualities.

Oster is away on hols at the moment – and yes he has a niggling injury – which we want to look at – but again don’t read anything into this…..we will resolve it all when he gets back…

We still have about 8 weeks to sort out our team…JR / SOD  / ROK are on the case, and JR is confident we will have a great line up come kick-off time. We won’t spill the beans, we won’t name our targets, we want to keep our powder dry …so please take a ‘chill pill’ folk and believe in our team. They will deliver- just like they have in the past…but there will be plenty of inaction on the media /news release front as regards new players…..
OK?...well maybe not…
Cheers, Gareth



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bellevuebhoy

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #1 on June 10, 2010, 03:38:24 pm by bellevuebhoy »
you really have a thankless task in this ,but thankyou gartom what ever happens as long as JR and SOD are there i have every faith

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« Reply #2 on June 10, 2010, 03:39:58 pm by RoversAlias »
Thanks for the post Gareth, I personally am always happy to see these posts on the forum as they are insightful, it isn't your fault that the 'mouthwatering' signings never materialised last year.

What is it with clubs and silly offers? If Barnsley, Leicester et al are doing this regularly then they will soon find they aren't going to be financially viable for this division in the near future.

Hopefully these deals on the defenders come through soon, it might appease the fans somewhat. I think many of us just get frustrated at the fact that we seem to be slow/late movers when it comes to actually signing players.

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #3 on June 10, 2010, 03:41:24 pm by Chris »
Thanks for the update. People will calm down once the World Cup starts!

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #4 on June 10, 2010, 03:43:45 pm by MrFrost »
gartom wrote:
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Well first of all, I have to say I am rather ‘hurt’ by some unkind comments on the forum today. It seems I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t let you know about the Rovers’ plans.

Lets be honest – last season, John rang me as excited as I’d never heard him– and we thought we had some brilliant signings in the bag.
Then at the 11th hour, events overtook us and these players went elsewhere.
At the time I did nt see anyone asking me not to post – quite the opposite   - people were asking for as much info, as soon as possible. We are fans, and its natural we want info – and I was trying to respond to this need !!!

In the end we got some good players – maybe even better players....I thought Sharp did OK – didn’t you…??....but it just went to show that maybe no information was better….
I got shot down in flames – and OK – I deserved it – but it did seem really newsworthy and more importantly, realistic news at the time.

Now back to the present…

We’ve had loads of posts complaining about the lack of info. Well, see above!!

We could post every day saying – there are ‘ongoing negotiations’ / ‘behind the scenes’ activity – that kind of no news ‘spin’ – I’m happy to tell you this every day if you want – but really – would you want that ?

Our media team feel the same way – and it should be obvious that we are not sat back hoping the best players come knocking at our door and begging to sign for us…..we are doing ‘stuff’ – but we wont go public until the deal is done, and we don’t want to alert other clubs (as we’ve said many times before)…but they could post this ‘non–info’ if you’d like!

I spoke to John this lunchtime.....and,as to the signings we’ve tried to sort out recently – OK they did nt happen – but we wont be held to ransom, we have budgets to work with, and we are trying to run a tight ship.
With Kennedy, Leicester came in with a late, silly offer – we decided not to enter in to an auction – and so decided not to pursue him any further.

Stating the obvious – we are looking at other targets – in fact we have already sorted out an offer for another left back – so just be patient!.....
As some have rightly pointed out on the forum, defenders are not such a problem….and JR and SOD are quite relaxed about us progressing this  - and reckon we have some really good targets to go at.
A similar situation exists regarding us securing a good central defender too….yes we have sorted out a target there as well…..so rest assured we have a few plan A / B / C etc. for these eventualities.

Oster is away on hols at the moment – and yes he has a niggling injury – which we want to look at – but again don’t read anything into this…..we will resolve it all when he gets back…

We still have about 8 weeks to sort out our team…JR / SOD  / ROK are on the case, and JR is confident we will have a great line up come kick-off time. We won’t spill the beans, we won’t name our targets, we want to keep our powder dry …so please take a ‘chill pill’ folk and believe in our team. They will deliver- just like they have in the past…but there will be plenty of inaction on the media /news release front as regards new players…..
OK?...well maybe not…
Cheers, Gareth


Gartom, I appriciate your updates and understand you are merely the messenger.

Can I ask, do you know how JR feels around the current season ticket sales and does this have a bearing on signings this summer?

Also, how does JR feel about how the club markets itself?

Not exactly on topic, but still questions that I have long been asking.

Cheers.

Shornton

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« Reply #5 on June 10, 2010, 03:46:00 pm by Shornton »
Thanks Gartom.

Think we know that JR and SOD are doing their best,we just to let them what they do best instead of complaining!!!  After all we a little fish in a big pond now.

Keep up the good work

pkt_drfc

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #6 on June 10, 2010, 03:52:23 pm by pkt_drfc »
I think what it is gartom is people including me who have said things today because we felt like we have been caught napping and like with other targets we have missed out again

Keith Myath

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #7 on June 10, 2010, 04:01:25 pm by Keith Myath »
gartom wrote:
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Well first of all, I have to say I am rather ‘hurt’ by some unkind comments on the forum today. It seems I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t let you know about the Rovers’ plans.

Lets be honest – last season, John rang me as excited as I’d never heard him– and we thought we had some brilliant signings in the bag.
Then at the 11th hour, events overtook us and these players went elsewhere.
At the time I did nt see anyone asking me not to post – quite the opposite   - people were asking for as much info, as soon as possible. We are fans, and its natural we want info – and I was trying to respond to this need !!!

In the end we got some good players – maybe even better players....I thought Sharp did OK – didn’t you…??....but it just went to show that maybe no information was better….
I got shot down in flames – and OK – I deserved it – but it did seem really newsworthy and more importantly, realistic news at the time.

Now back to the present…

We’ve had loads of posts complaining about the lack of info. Well, see above!!

We could post every day saying – there are ‘ongoing negotiations’ / ‘behind the scenes’ activity – that kind of no news ‘spin’ – I’m happy to tell you this every day if you want – but really – would you want that ?

Our media team feel the same way – and it should be obvious that we are not sat back hoping the best players come knocking at our door and begging to sign for us…..we are doing ‘stuff’ – but we wont go public until the deal is done, and we don’t want to alert other clubs (as we’ve said many times before)…but they could post this ‘non–info’ if you’d like!

I spoke to John this lunchtime.....and,as to the signings we’ve tried to sort out recently – OK they did nt happen – but we wont be held to ransom, we have budgets to work with, and we are trying to run a tight ship.
With Kennedy, Leicester came in with a late, silly offer – we decided not to enter in to an auction – and so decided not to pursue him any further.

Stating the obvious – we are looking at other targets – in fact we have already sorted out an offer for another left back – so just be patient!.....
As some have rightly pointed out on the forum, defenders are not such a problem….and JR and SOD are quite relaxed about us progressing this  - and reckon we have some really good targets to go at.
A similar situation exists regarding us securing a good central defender too….yes we have sorted out a target there as well…..so rest assured we have a few plan A / B / C etc. for these eventualities.

Oster is away on hols at the moment – and yes he has a niggling injury – which we want to look at – but again don’t read anything into this…..we will resolve it all when he gets back…

We still have about 8 weeks to sort out our team…JR / SOD  / ROK are on the case, and JR is confident we will have a great line up come kick-off time. We won’t spill the beans, we won’t name our targets, we want to keep our powder dry …so please take a ‘chill pill’ folk and believe in our team. They will deliver- just like they have in the past…but there will be plenty of inaction on the media /news release front as regards new players…..
OK?...well maybe not…
Cheers, Gareth


Gareth, this happens every season, why should this one be any different.

Just ignore the moaners, there the people who are insured upto the bo!!ocks, read the express, throw food out a before its sell by date and generally worry about what they are going to have for tea.

Rovers not signing players in early June!!! is like world war 3 happening in their back garden to these guys.

Roll on August, when the moaners have all comitted suicide and Doncaster Rovers are as strong as ever..........

gartom

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« Reply #8 on June 10, 2010, 04:07:58 pm by gartom »
Thanks for the kind words guys.....it is appreciated!!
JR and the team are on the case - so we will have to be patient....as mentionned above - lets get the World Cup started to deflect the aggro elsewhere....
Cheers, Gareth

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« Reply #9 on June 10, 2010, 04:10:00 pm by irishcontingent »
Gareth.

Thanks for the \"input\". BUT!!, i think John is being a little naieve if he thinks \"Powder\" can be kept dry. Hells teeth the very moment an \"Agent\" is approached by DRFC about one of \"His\" players, if he is worth his salt, he will fax every CCC club who are around DRFC stature or better, with as much Information as possible, in order to \"Enhance\" his clients salary, or try to, and likewise his own. Unfortunatly agents dont posess \"Scruples\", mind in their place , neither would i.

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #10 on June 10, 2010, 04:17:16 pm by DMnumber4 »
gartom wrote:
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Thanks for the kind words guys.....it is appreciated!!
JR and the team are on the case - so we will have to be patient....as mentionned above - lets get the World Cup started to deflect the aggro elsewhere....
Cheers, Gareth


That won't apply to the majority of people on here who prefer Rovers to do well over England or those who support Argentina or USA and hope our 'overpaid' superstars fail, because Messi is short of a bob or two  ;)

As for Rovers, I've now lost complete faith regarding signings I'm afraid and will not believe they are actually ours until they have the shirt on their backs and we're past the 31st August when the transfer window shuts (are we aware it's opened?)

It does make you wonder how the hell we managed to sign the likes of McIndoe, Gareth, Neil and Steve Roberts.

I want us to bust a gut and throw the whole Rovers brochure at them!

Jonathan

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #11 on June 10, 2010, 04:18:20 pm by Jonathan »
I'd like to echo the gratitude expressed by others to Gartom for taking the time to type out such a comprehensive response to the concerns, it is above and beyond the call of duty.

Once again my major problem surrounds why the supposed media team (I saw a reference in there somewhere?) are unable to produce something of comparable (not necessarily as passionate or comprehensive) relevance on the official website.

There is a world of difference between asking for \"day to day updates\" and some updates.

The responsibility should not continually fall on the shoulders of an unpaid fans representative, nor should that person feel the wrath of the fans frustrations for situations way outside his control.

There are people in the football club that are paid salaries to speak to JR and SO'D and put together news items that are relevant, useful, interesting and accessible to the supporters, without compromising any private negotiations. Once again they fail to do this and the pieces have to be picked up by a volunteer. Andy Liney was taken for granted in such a way and it seems that so is Gareth, while those on paid salaries sit back and contemplate how \"we can't update people every day.\"

Please Gareth, feedback to JR that the club needs an acceptable minimum level of communication from the official channels, not least to take the pressure and duty off yourself.

That update is appreciated, and it's refreshing to read but will reach a proportionally small number of people on this fans forum.

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #12 on June 10, 2010, 04:21:50 pm by MrFrost »
Jonathan wrote:
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I'd like to echo the gratitude expressed by others to Gartom for taking the time to type out such a comprehensive response to the concerns, it is above and beyond the call of duty.

Once again my major problem surrounds why the supposed media team (I saw a reference in there somewhere?) are unable to produce something of comparable (not necessarily as passionate or comprehensive) relevance on the official website.

There is a world of difference between asking for \"day to day updates\" and some updates.

The responsibility should not continually fall on the shoulders of an unpaid fans representative, nor should that person feel the wrath of the fans frustrations for situations way outside his control.

There are people in the football club that are paid salaries to speak to JR and SO'D and put together news items that are relevant, useful, interesting and accessible to the supporters, without compromising any private negotiations. Once again they fail to do this and the pieces have to be picked up by a volunteer. Andy Liney was taken for granted in such a way and it seems that so is Gareth, while those on paid salaries sit back and contemplate how \"we can't update people every day.\"

Please Gareth, feedback to JR that the club needs an acceptable minimum level of communication from the official channels, not least to take the pressure and duty off yourself.

That update is appreciated, and it's refreshing to read but will reach a proportionally small number of people on this fans forum.


Is Steve Uttley still the media manager? What does he do every day?

DROS is a shambles, and has been for years. Again its poor marketing, and I will keep banging on about it til i'm blue in the face.

NorthNorfolkRover

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« Reply #13 on June 10, 2010, 04:27:36 pm by NorthNorfolkRover »
Please don't JR get the wrong impression Gareth. The vast majority feel well served by the club but have a life so don't post in the summer. We know JR and SOD will do the right thing even if it drags past the start of the season eg getting Billy last August.
As for the marketing gripes unfortunatley media studies has replaced many practical subjects in our great education system so its just a load of \"wannabe\" kids who think they could do better.

Rovin Reporter

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« Reply #14 on June 10, 2010, 04:43:59 pm by Rovin Reporter »
I assume J/R is looking at the Season Ticket sales! well i suppose he is content to know theie is a mugs born every day ( me as well ) but a good early signing would have been for the fans . We are bargin basement team all be it with a few quid to spend,so you are correct we have 8 weeks to patch up a new team ,and i'm happy in the knowlage that  what ever team we turn out it will not break the bank or leave us thinking we could be deducted points for over spending on players tranfers or wages ( i wish ) your conversation with the MAN , seemed to leave alot unsaid and very lttle confirmed. So lets hope he call back soon.

Deano

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« Reply #15 on June 10, 2010, 04:48:27 pm by Deano »
Thanks for the update gartom. It's easy to listen to the moans but I bet if you look deeper there will be just as many people sticking up for the cause.

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« Reply #16 on June 10, 2010, 04:54:28 pm by Snods Shinpad 2 »
Cheers for the info Gareth. As you say damned if you do...etc etc

In defence of DROS, in the last week or two they have obviously been trying to improve the content (not transfer related). The '12 years video' was good stuff (sounds like there is more to come), the Wigan game video was worth a watch, the interviews of Woods/Chambers behind the scenes while not riveting, were something offered up to the bored masses. The World Cup shirts feature was a decent enough effort in terms of what has been offered up previously. Also a bonus that someone has made the effort to use the camera properly and also film something without the audio sounding like it was filmed in a fishtank.

As for releasing transfer speculation, there are arguments both ways. Personally, I'm not particularly bothered by the secret squirrel approach of DROS. They released a couple of interviews with SOD last month about what is going on behind the scenes and that's good enough for me.

Roll on the World Cup...

MrFrost

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« Reply #17 on June 10, 2010, 04:56:14 pm by MrFrost »
NorthNorfolkRover wrote:
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Please don't JR get the wrong impression Gareth. The vast majority feel well served by the club but have a life so don't post in the summer. We know JR and SOD will do the right thing even if it drags past the start of the season eg getting Billy last August.
As for the marketing gripes unfortunatley media studies has replaced many practical subjects in our great education system so its just a load of \"wannabe\" kids who think they could do better.


They are not marketing gripes. It is a fact that our marketing department are well below par.

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« Reply #18 on June 10, 2010, 04:57:47 pm by Pintolager »
My view is that a number of people haven't got a clue as to what happens in the day to day running of a football club - and while I include myself in that, I like to think that I pretend that I do know! Just because things are not working out to how we would like, doesn't mean that we should lambast certain individuals. What Gareth writes makes alot of sense to me, but like he says at the bottom of his original post, maybe it won't be ok with certain people on here as they will still like to moan instead of taking things in.

If some folks glasses are always going to be half empty, then so be it, there is little we can do about them, but I am going to try to understand that the club are doing everything in their means without wanting to jeopardise the clubs well being.

Patience really is a virtue!

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« Reply #19 on June 10, 2010, 05:11:46 pm by SkellowRover »
MrFrost wrote:
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Jonathan wrote:
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I'd like to echo the gratitude expressed by others to Gartom for taking the time to type out such a comprehensive response to the concerns, it is above and beyond the call of duty.

Once again my major problem surrounds why the supposed media team (I saw a reference in there somewhere?) are unable to produce something of comparable (not necessarily as passionate or comprehensive) relevance on the official website.

There is a world of difference between asking for \"day to day updates\" and some updates.

The responsibility should not continually fall on the shoulders of an unpaid fans representative, nor should that person feel the wrath of the fans frustrations for situations way outside his control.

There are people in the football club that are paid salaries to speak to JR and SO'D and put together news items that are relevant, useful, interesting and accessible to the supporters, without compromising any private negotiations. Once again they fail to do this and the pieces have to be picked up by a volunteer. Andy Liney was taken for granted in such a way and it seems that so is Gareth, while those on paid salaries sit back and contemplate how \"we can't update people every day.\"

Please Gareth, feedback to JR that the club needs an acceptable minimum level of communication from the official channels, not least to take the pressure and duty off yourself.

That update is appreciated, and it's refreshing to read but will reach a proportionally small number of people on this fans forum.


Is Steve Uttley still the media manager? What does he do every day?

DROS is a shambles, and has been for years. Again its poor marketing, and I will keep banging on about it til i'm blue in the face.


Steve Uttley IS the media manager, but i have no idea what he actually does. The website, videos on rovers player and matchday program are done/updated/edited by Chris Mortley. All i have ever seen Steve Uttley do is take photographs and maybe 4-5 of them occasionally appear on DROS a few days after a game.

Also what does the Marketing manager of the club do apart from nothing much? all you ever see from them is corporate events etc, and nothing in terms of marketing to attract the average joe to a game or into buying a season ticket.

MrFrost

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« Reply #20 on June 10, 2010, 05:14:55 pm by MrFrost »
I wonder what salary he is on. I'll do it for half what he does.

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« Reply #21 on June 10, 2010, 05:52:13 pm by The Red Baron »
DMnumber4 wrote:
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gartom wrote:
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Thanks for the kind words guys.....it is appreciated!!
JR and the team are on the case - so we will have to be patient....as mentionned above - lets get the World Cup started to deflect the aggro elsewhere....
Cheers, Gareth


That won't apply to the majority of people on here who prefer Rovers to do well over England or those who support Argentina or USA and hope our 'overpaid' superstars fail, because Messi is short of a bob or two  ;)

As for Rovers, I've now lost complete faith regarding signings I'm afraid and will not believe they are actually ours until they have the shirt on their backs and we're past the 31st August when the transfer window shuts (are we aware it's opened?)

It does make you wonder how the hell we managed to sign the likes of McIndoe, Gareth, Neil and Steve Roberts.

I want us to bust a gut and throw the whole Rovers brochure at them!


We signed players like McIndoe when we were in Leagues One and Two because we could compete financially with the other clubs in there. Then it was just a question of selling the club to them. Now we are looking to sign better calibre players (who cost more money, both in fees and wages) and we are struggling to compete financially.

I'm sure we will get in some decent signings for next season but I just keep wondering how long the Board and Management can keep squaring the circle.

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« Reply #22 on June 10, 2010, 05:59:44 pm by godlike1 »
Christ despite gareths update from JR it really does seem like some people on here really do like to do nothing but live to their \"Yorkshire\" stereotype of being miserable f*****s. I thought blunt n weeds were pathetic ................. Well ok were not that bad but could quite easily become that bad.

It seems like no one is happy unless they are having a go at at least one person at DRFC and although it'd be nice for some good news to come out of the club it's no reason to have a go.

It is very dishartening for a certain majority of people to have dig all the time no matter what you do. I know this as I work in the public sector where the staff and public are never happy no matter how hard you work.

Gareth Your efforts are massively appreciated and other than the carefully crafted news of potential signings I think it would be great and positive to hear or see is how the club are intending to try and get season ticket numbers up even with the help of fans volunteering to raise the clubs profile even further. That would give us all hope and optimism if we can reach the magical 10,000 and obviously help fund wages and signings

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« Reply #23 on June 10, 2010, 06:51:03 pm by Berkshire Rover »
Gareth, keep up the ggod work mate, you know the normally silent majority are right behind you and I like the other contributors believe that between them JR and SOD will deliver some quality signings, they are unlikely to be headline grabbers if past experience is anything to go by, but I wouldn't miond a few more unheralded signings like Stocky, Wellens, Mills etc. if we are honest did any of us really think they were the players that SOD turned them into when we signed them.

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« Reply #24 on June 10, 2010, 07:12:21 pm by topnotch_Donny »
Thanks for the update gartom. You are the man in the middle and should be given a medal  :)

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« Reply #25 on June 10, 2010, 07:19:54 pm by roversdude »
Gartom - good work fella, don't take it personally.
I'm surprised nobody has blamed Wilson for this yet though

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« Reply #26 on June 10, 2010, 07:45:53 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Most of us appreciate Gartoms efforts and I'm sure many of us are thinking 'here we go again!'

It appears Gartom has to shoulder the burden of being the link between the club and the fans and to a degree rightly so however, I believe the club haven't helped make his role any easier, in fact it seems to be becoming harder.

When we are 'provoked' due to the lack of key information coming out of the club from official sources, Gartom has to intervene and 'calm' things down.

If the club improved it's communication to it's audience then we wouldn't be having threads like this.

Whether the club likes it or not, it has to be aware that there will always be speculation in the media about current/new players etc, and it has a duty to it's fan base to quell the speculation by releasing 'updates' even if that means there is nothing to report or thing are wide of the mark. Just the knowledge that JR and SOD were on holiday and no signings are imminent would have been useful.

The club appears to be getting worse at engaging with it's customers and accusations of being 'out of touch' are understandable. This is not the first time that we have discussed these issues and the club appears to have chosen to ignore suggestions for improvement.

It cannot afford to do so, especially with ST numbers falling. It needs to engage and embrace what passion and enthusiasm remains amongst us.

All they need to do is invite a chosen few to work with Gartom and the club to deal with day to day experiences that effect the fans. Call it what you will, a focus group, steering group, committee or whatever. At least they will be seen to be listening to fans.

I'll say it again, had some sort of initiative like this had been adopted then we wouldn't have had the big hoo ha
about season ticket prices sales and, would have been more likely that the club and the fans could have worked together to maximise potential sales/reduce the number of losses.

Other key areas of communication could and can be improved. This issues are too big for the likes of Gartom, Charlie Swallow, the media team, the commercial team to do on their own in isolation.

Master Katesby

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« Reply #27 on June 10, 2010, 08:04:02 pm by Master Katesby »
'Leicester came in with a late, silly offer'

Slightly repetitive this late silly offer stuff isn't it. Yawn, glad I've not purchased a season ticket I must admit.

Savvy

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #28 on June 10, 2010, 08:28:18 pm by Savvy »
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Well first of all, I have to say I am rather ‘hurt’ by some unkind comments on the forum today. It seems I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t let you know about the Rovers’ plans.

Lets be honest – last season, John rang me as excited as I’d never heard him– and we thought we had some brilliant signings in the bag.
Then at the 11th hour, events overtook us and these players went elsewhere.
At the time I did nt see anyone asking me not to post – quite the opposite   - people were asking for as much info, as soon as possible. We are fans, and its natural we want info – and I was trying to respond to this need !!!

In the end we got some good players – maybe even better players....I thought Sharp did OK – didn’t you…??....but it just went to show that maybe no information was better….
I got shot down in flames – and OK – I deserved it – but it did seem really newsworthy and more importantly, realistic news at the time.

Now back to the present…

We’ve had loads of posts complaining about the lack of info. Well, see above!!

We could post every day saying – there are ‘ongoing negotiations’ / ‘behind the scenes’ activity – that kind of no news ‘spin’ – I’m happy to tell you this every day if you want – but really – would you want that ?

Our media team feel the same way – and it should be obvious that we are not sat back hoping the best players come knocking at our door and begging to sign for us…..we are doing ‘stuff’ – but we wont go public until the deal is done, and we don’t want to alert other clubs (as we’ve said many times before)…but they could post this ‘non–info’ if you’d like!

I spoke to John this lunchtime.....and,as to the signings we’ve tried to sort out recently – OK they did nt happen – but we wont be held to ransom, we have budgets to work with, and we are trying to run a tight ship.
With Kennedy, Leicester came in with a late, silly offer – we decided not to enter in to an auction – and so decided not to pursue him any further.

Stating the obvious – we are looking at other targets – in fact we have already sorted out an offer for another left back – so just be patient!.....
As some have rightly pointed out on the forum, defenders are not such a problem….and JR and SOD are quite relaxed about us progressing this  - and reckon we have some really good targets to go at.
A similar situation exists regarding us securing a good central defender too….yes we have sorted out a target there as well…..so rest assured we have a few plan A / B / C etc. for these eventualities.

Oster is away on hols at the moment – and yes he has a niggling injury – which we want to look at – but again don’t read anything into this…..we will resolve it all when he gets back…

We still have about 8 weeks to sort out our team…JR / SOD  / ROK are on the case, and JR is confident we will have a great line up come kick-off time. We won’t spill the beans, we won’t name our targets, we want to keep our powder dry …so please take a ‘chill pill’ folk and believe in our team. They will deliver- just like they have in the past…but there will be plenty of inaction on the media /news release front as regards new players…..
OK?...well maybe not…
Cheers, Gareth


No word on a Premiership striker?

roversdude

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Re:OK, I've just talked to JR.......
« Reply #29 on June 10, 2010, 08:30:46 pm by roversdude »
your choice Katesby, whilst I appreciate for some people its a financial choice fortunately we are not all fickle

 

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