Keogh - why is it public?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Having a think and why has this possible move been made public?  Seems very unlike SOD and Rovers to come out and say we're after a player, especially one who's going to attract so much attention.  Any thoughts?  Seems out of character for us.

[mushRTID]

JR will have him signed up and looking to maximise the attention, the little tinker.

[rossorog]

I hadnt really thought about it like that but Sean doesnt usually shout from the rooftops, and if he did we probably wouldnt hear him.

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Was thinking exactly the same thing. Not exactly cloak and dagger stuff is it?

Only thing I can think of is:

1. Deal already done bar the paperwork and no way Wolves or Keogh will go back on their word.

2. Intended to increase the profile of the club to assist ticket sales and convince other players/ agents that Rovers are an attractive option.

3. Gossip so wide spread that it makes no difference anymore.

4. Doing an agent a favour by publicising Keoghs availability for some reason.

5. New found confidence that a player would be daft to turn down Rovers and that we do not need to fear anyone poaching him.

The reality is probably a combination of the above.

[neilfinne]

what about,

Keogh was plan b?

then no2 above

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Just listened to SOD's 17 min interview on Player and he's eventually asked about Keogh and Corker ??

Typical dead pan SOD, said Keogh's name came up in a conversation with Mick McCarthy, just like Shackell was previously discussed and, as Wolves have not decided one way or another he will be in the first team squad, that's as far as it's gone.

Makes you wonder with his Irish background if this 'home grown' rule will have an effect on McCarthy's decision. I'm sure it will also depend on Keogh's attitude to being a potential benchwarmer.

If McCarthy decides against, then surely they would be looking to offload him permanently which sadly, may rule us out.

On the lad from Spurs he said he's been on his case for quite a while and says Redknapp hasn't announced his squad so again it's a wait and see jobby.

We normally expect loan deals to be done late in the day anyway, so best not to get too carried away lads. If either or both or these do happen then it will be so much sweeter !!

[donnybez]

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

Was thinking exactly the same thing. Not exactly cloak and dagger stuff is it?

Only thing I can think of is:

1. Deal already done bar the paperwork and no way Wolves or Keogh will go back on their word.

2. Intended to increase the profile of the club to assist ticket sales and convince other players/ agents that Rovers are an attractive option.

3. Gossip so wide spread that it makes no difference anymore.

4. Doing an agent a favour by publicising Keoghs availability for some reason.

5. New found confidence that a player would be daft to turn down Rovers and that we do not need to fear anyone poaching him.

The reality is probably a combination of the above.

Number 2. Its a popular option for many football clubs. Show your capable of attracting top talent and more players will be interested, investors, fans....etc will be interested

[Bald Rover]

what about Keogh has a desire to play football and a desire to rekindle his partnership with Billy so whoever now states an interest in Andy we are going to be the obvious choice? we also have a good relationship with his parent club? or are we publically letting Andy know he is wanted like we did with Billy? at the end of the day if he comes in on loan he will arrive a hero without kicking a ball!

[DearneValleyRover]

Or have we thrown down the gauntlet as we did with Billy and now Andy knows he's wanted here he can make a more informed choice, just like Billy  B)

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Taken from Wolves fan blog

Starting with SOD's quote.

“To put Andy and Billy together again is something to consider. You talk to a lot of clubs about players without making a concrete offer and we have done that with Andy Keogh. It will all depend on what Andy’s situation is with Wolves. He knows a lot of our players and he is certainly someone who interests us.”

Billy Sharp and Andy Keogh made their names cling well together at Scunthorpe in the 2005-6 season, when they were the most potent strike-force in League One, scoring 38 goals between them (Keogh scored 15).

Billy says to BBC:

“Keogh is one of my good mates. He has mentioned it to me, he wants to play football like me and Doncaster are interested in him. I think if Mick McCarthy would let him go out on loan then he will come here. If he does come here then it would be a brilliant addition to the squad.”

As you know I usually don’t write much about rumours. But this is really more than that. The manager of Doncaster clearly wants Keogh on loan and Wolves need to lay off a couple of players to meet the 25 player rule. And I’m sure that Andy wants to play regular football.

But having splashed their cash on Sharp I don’t believe that Doncaster can afford to buy out Keogh. But I do believe that it would be a golden opportunity for Andy to retrieve his scoring ability together with his old striker friend and make his way back to the forward squad of Wolves the season after this.

Therefore I find the probability of Keogh signing for Doncaster on loan very high indeed. The only question is if Andy wants a chance to get into this years team of Wolves before signing for  Donny. The deal could drag out or be done very soon.

According to McCarthy recently though, he wants his 25 men sorted out in good time before the season starts. My informed guess is that Andy Keogh will sign for Donny soon. And what a potent striking force they will get!

[Drover]

Maybe our interest in Keogh has been let out because it will have no effect on whether we get him for a months loan or not.If some of the strong rumours are right that
A) Keogh wants to come to Rovers(back with Billy and believes SOD can resurrect his career too then that would make any other clubs interest pointless)
and
B)It is down to wolves if they want to loan him out or not.(which is the impression I have got from the interviews).
Then the decision is foremost down to wolves to let him come or not,If they say no then it will not be because it in the news that we lost out on him.If it was a permanent signing then I think it would have been different.
Im hoping(and Im just guessing)its only things like how much of his wages we will pay and if there are other things Wolves want in the terms of the loan like whether he can be recalled in Jan to sell and stuff like that that is being Ironed out and he will come soon.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

At least Wolves will know our credit is good !

There are so many things in our favour....So he's signing for Barnsley then !!

I still have the mentality of a pub team and , every now and then we buck the odds and sign a quality player.

If, and a big if, Mills had stayed, Wellens, Green, Roberts etc, plus the quality we have gained since, where would we be ?

Still, I'd rather we keep the underdog, little pub team spirit. As soon as we take the billy big b*llocks attitude then we know there is only one way to go...Hillsborough !!

[rovinrover52]

it was reported on radio shef
that keo has asked that if hes not in line for a first team place
he`d like to go out on loan to donny

[Alan Southstand]

Deal already done bar the paperwork and no way Wolves or Keogh will go back on their word.

Wasn't that the rumour from a Wolves supporter who claims to be 'in the know', on a previous thread?

There is no way we would have openly offered this information if it was in the 'touch and go' stage. It would be seen as a major disappointment if we then failed with our attempt at signing him. Why risk breaking the impetus that has been built up with the Sharp and Gillet signings? I don't want to assume much as its almost too good to be true, but its looking like another massive step in the right direction, if it comes off.

[Chris]

Wolves fans are pretty keen on this to go through. Hopefully Wolves' management see the same mutual benefits as we all do!

[MattyDRFC]

Well according to Yorkshire Evening post Leeds have declared there intrest in keogh aswell  

LEEDS UNITED have made a move to bring former striker Andy Keogh back to Elland Road.
Wolverhampton Wanderers want to sell the Irishman, on the books at United at the start of his career – without ever actually starting a game – to bring in transfer funds.

Under Premier League regulations, the Molineux outfit are also mindful of the need to reduce their senior squad from its current number of 30 to 25 by the end of the transfer window in August.

But the fee – with Wolves understood to be seeking a sum well into seven figures – appears to be the stumbling block.

Dublin-born Keogh, who signed a two-year extension in February 2009 and is contracted until June 2012, was an established choice up front ahead of last season, with injury and the form of Kevin Doyle – deployed in a one-man attack – forcing him on the fringes.

Keogh, who cost Wolves £600,000 when he joined them from Scunthorpe United in 2007, has also been the subject of interest from United's Yorkshire npower Championship rivals Barnsley, but that has cooled due to the asking price.

Doncaster Rovers have also thrown their hat into the ring to sign the 24-year-old on loan and re-unite him with his former Scunthorpe United colleague Billy Sharp.

Republic of Ireland star Keogh joined United at the age of 16, but featured just once as a sub in the Carling Cup clash at Portsmouth in October 2004.

After an earlier loan spell, he moved to Scunthorpe United for £50,000 in February 2005.

[DearneValleyRover]

MattyDRFC wrote:

Well according to Yorkshire Evening post Leeds have declared there intrest in keogh aswell  

LEEDS UNITED have made a move to bring former striker Andy Keogh back to Elland Road.
Wolverhampton Wanderers want to sell the Irishman, on the books at United at the start of his career – without ever actually starting a game – to bring in transfer funds.

Under Premier League regulations, the Molineux outfit are also mindful of the need to reduce their senior squad from its current number of 30 to 25 by the end of the transfer window in August.

But the fee – with Wolves understood to be seeking a sum well into seven figures – appears to be the stumbling block.

Dublin-born Keogh, who signed a two-year extension in February 2009 and is contracted until June 2012, was an established choice up front ahead of last season, with injury and the form of Kevin Doyle – deployed in a one-man attack – forcing him on the fringes.

Keogh, who cost Wolves £600,000 when he joined them from Scunthorpe United in 2007, has also been the subject of interest from United's Yorkshire npower Championship rivals Barnsley, but that has cooled due to the asking price.

Doncaster Rovers have also thrown their hat into the ring to sign the 24-year-old on loan and re-unite him with his former Scunthorpe United colleague Billy Sharp.

Republic of Ireland star Keogh joined United at the age of 16, but featured just once as a sub in the Carling Cup clash at Portsmouth in October 2004.

After an earlier loan spell, he moved to Scunthorpe United for £50,000 in February 2005.

YEP, Calendar, Look Leeds all the same really they will always print in their favour. I'm sure every club in the Championship if asked if they were interested in Keogh would say yes. Big stumbling block for Leeds is that Unkle Ken isn't going to allow Grayson to spend a seven figure sum on one player.

[RobTheRover]

Just to step sideways for a moment, this new Premier League ruling about 25 player 1st team squads could see a late influx of talented players being available for loan.  Maybe we dont jump in just yet with too many loanees, and pick up a bargain late in August?

[Bikka]

RobTheRover wrote:

Just to step sideways for a moment, this new Premier League ruling about 25 player 1st team squads could see a late influx of talented players being available for loan.  Maybe we dont jump in just yet with too many loanees, and pick up a bargain late in August?

Good cunning plan RTR, however it maybe a case of get to the table first and pick off the best bits and leave the scraps for rest.

[Drover]

Also,despite what the articles are saying maybe a loan will suit Wolves more than selling because if they want to reduce the first team squad for the new rules why would they need funds for transfers?Unless they reduce it by more than necessary and have certain targets on their radar that they want to bring in?

RTR,Waiting to the last minute or even days/weeks after the season starts is highly likely what will happen,its been used by Rovers alot in recent years,even before SOD.Penney picked a few players up like that did'nt he.It helps not having to pay over the odds or even get a bargain or two.Even more so now with these rules.