Trilogy closes doors

[Mike_F]

Nobody's claiming that Donny's all peace and light but it's no different to anywhere else inasmuch as it has nice areas and shite areas, nice people and scumbags. Go into any town/city centre on aweekday afternoon and you'll see the same old losers staggering about barely being able to string sentences together and spitting in the street.

Now I'm not going to say nobody should leave the town, everyone has their free choice and their own reason for moving on - when I was around your age, Rigo I also said that I wouldn't come back to live in Donny after university. When I got a bit of life experience and took the blinkers off I realised that the town has a lot going for it and is constantly developing. I wanted to be part of a brighter future for Donny so the first thing I did when I graduated was buy a house here.

[Mike_F]

BillyStubbsTears wrote:

Rigoglioso wrote:

As Jonathon says, plenty of people leave Doncaster and are quick to slag it off. Do all those of us have a point or are we all deluded?

Neither. You're just nest-shitting t**ts.

How is Sheffield tonight, Billy  

[Viking Don]

BillyStubbsTears wrote:

Ah well. If there's one sliver lining to the cloud of economic woes, it's the fact that music and youth culture improve as the times get harder. In 78-83 we had Joy Division/New Order, Two Tone, The Jam, the birth of British Electro-pop and a dozen other innovative groups/movements.

In the economic fat years over the last two decades, we have had a plethora of manufactured boy/girl bands, bone idle derivatives of 25 year-old techno-pop and shit, comfortable middle-class pap like Keane/The Kooks/Coldplay. There's been nothing truly innovative in British pop music since the days of Madchester and the rave culture 20 years ago.

Maybe things will improve now. Last time all the clubs were being closed down, it spawned THIS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

My post of this day (i.e. the one I'm looking at this stuff at).

The music industry is ill and needs the kind of thing that punk spawned 30 years ago. Not a punk revival, but a rejection of the X-factor shit that we (not me) feed our kids.

Don't know how it will manifest itself, but it's coming, and it's not nice. Hopefully.

EDIT: Christ I didn't realise this was a donny bashing thread. Count me out, I've lived all over and 'there's no place like home'.

[MrFrost]

Rigoglioso wrote:

Mike_F wrote:

Nobody's claiming that Donny's all peace and light but it's no different to anywhere else inasmuch as it has nice areas and shite areas, nice people and scumbags. Go into any town/city centre on aweekday afternoon and you'll see the same old losers staggering about barely being able to string sentences together and spitting in the street.

Now I'm not going to say nobody should leave the town, everyone has their free choice and their own reason for moving on - when I was around your age, Rigo I also said that I wouldn't come back to live in Donny after university. When I got a bit of life experience and took the blinkers off I realised that the town has a lot going for it and is constantly developing. I wanted to be part of a brighter future for Donny so the first thing I did when I graduated was buy a house here.

Maybe it did have 10 years ago, but for my own personal reasons when I do go, I don't ever intend coming back to Doncaster as a place to live on a permanent basis.

I have my reasons and they run a lot deeper than irratating folk such as the ginger tramp and the scrounger in town who never has enough change for his bus fare.

I'd say 10 years ago, the town was probably on it's knees.
Since then it has had well over £1 billion pounds worth of investment, and onbiously has worked for the better.

Out of interest Rigo, where is it you're moving to?

[Jonathan]

Rigoglioso wrote:

MrFrost wrote:

World class racecourse
The area is steeped in history if you can be bothered to look.
We still have a top notch market, despite reports that try to bring it down
Excellent transport links for road, rail and air
As you said, decent football team
There's plenty to do, if people dare to look past the mainstream things.

The bad points Doncaster has, can be found in any other major town or city.

- World class racecourse. Yeah, if you're willing to pay world class prices. It's good for the town but we need to look a little bit further than the horsey field.

- Area steeped in tradition! So are other places. Past glories, traditions are meaningless anyway as it's about the present, not the past.

- Top notch market? Good occasionally and different every once in a blue moon, but again is the market something that is going to get people flocking here as a place to live?

- Excellent road and rail links. Totally agree with this and the one downside to where I'm moving is that I'll be a bit further away from London, which is a place I spend quite a fair bit of time.

- Decent football team. Yeah, but again too many people in Donny are apathetic towards Doncaster Rovers in terms of attendances.

As Jonathan says, plenty of people leave Doncaster and are quick to slag it off. Do all those of us have a point or are we all deluded?

I would say it's an unfortunate part of the stereotypical, conformist British mentality to 'slag off' their own. I wish it wasn't as I hate it.

Rigo, you've just set out to belittle most of the positive examples that were listed above, while also citing things like 'the council' as a reason for wanting to leave.

Can I ask what it is you do want from a town/city, and what you are expecting from the place you move to? As a young single male with no children or dependents, what is it that you are expecting from the council and, as it is a reason for you wanting to leave Doncaster and never return, what are your personal hopes for the comparable services delivered by the council at the place you are moving to?

I'm asking the above out of genuine interest as I work for a Local Authority (not Doncaster I must specify) and when someone cites the council as a reason for wanting to leave a town, I'm intrigued to find out a bit more? Everybody wants to improve the level of service they deliver, and there is no doubting that there have been some high profile flaws in DMBC (notbaly Childrens Services) but I know for a fact that there are also many many dedicated people that are working very hard to improve the services offered by Doncaster Council in the face of some extremely difficult and challenging times. All Local Authorities are being asked to slash 25% from their budgets over the next four years, so what improved services are they that you are looking for and counting on elsewhere?