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I know it seems a daft idea, but I would PMSL if We saw a United Eire come out of all this.
I'm going to make a prediction...we'll end up getting a Preference Agreement - which has always been the most likely outcome of anything over and above a straight Brexit from Day 1. The government will claim it's a Free Trade agreement (which it's not), Labour will claim it's a Customs Union (which it's not), they'll disagree with each other about what it is; and the public will make all sorts of weird claims about what it is because the vast majority of them don't have a real clue what a Preference Agreement, a Free Trade Agreement or a Customs Union really are.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 27, 2018, 09:21:07 pmI'm going to make a prediction...we'll end up getting a Preference Agreement - which has always been the most likely outcome of anything over and above a straight Brexit from Day 1. The government will claim it's a Free Trade agreement (which it's not), Labour will claim it's a Customs Union (which it's not), they'll disagree with each other about what it is; and the public will make all sorts of weird claims about what it is because the vast majority of them don't have a real clue what a Preference Agreement, a Free Trade Agreement or a Customs Union really are.There certainly is a huge misunderstanding about the Customs Union and the Single Market. As you correctly pointed out the other day, if we stayed in the CU (or formed a new one with the EU) there is still the likelihood that some form of border checks would be needed if we left the SM. Admittedly the checks would probably be on the Irish side, at the behest of the EU.
This is beyond parody. This!https://www.liamfox.co.uk/news/dr-fox-mail-sundayFrom Liam Fox’s own bleeding website!An article of his from 2012. Get past the throwaway comments on why he hates the EU (because the evil bas**rds insist on regulations to protect workers against exploration and to reduce pollution).Go to the fourth last paragraph and see what he says, on his own website, is the sort of relationship that we should have with the EU.
... and all the while the propper uppers (DUP) of the Tories will be waiting to drop them if they dont get what THEY want (AGAIN)It just stinks and can be sorted to a degree by implementing PR of some sort. See First Pie Charthttps://twitter.com/MakeVotesMatterHope the DUP give back the massive Grant they were given to "save " the Tories if they DO dump them cos it might go some way to helping the NHS and/or other good causes
Sportyrover, If that did happen the last people to be pissing themselves would be the E.U. They would have a civil war on their hands within six months and no British army or undercover agents to help them out.
According to some, it's going to be that bad we're gonna need food banks.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on February 27, 2018, 12:52:15 pmAccording to some, it's going to be that bad we're gonna need food banks.I take it the big sticks are for Whacking any 'Urchin' they may have encountered? Maybe.... Back to the future with BREXIT.
Probs not BST but the media in this country is yet another issue to face.
There is a good piece in todays Guardian on who and what may be to blame for Brexit and the chaos it is proving to be. From Thatcher's deindustrialisation, to Blair's open door immigration via 'cultural dementia' the playing fields of Eton and the Dam Busters!Worth a read (whether you agree with it or not)https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/03/brexit-immigration-jobs-eton-europe
The election in Italy appears to be another blow to the EU and it's superstate ambitions
Quote from: Filo on March 05, 2018, 11:14:32 amThe election in Italy appears to be another blow to the EU and it's superstate ambitionsI don't see how it's going to affect the EU, neither of the biggest parties have campaigned to leave it.Are you thinking of any 'superstate ambitions' in particular that you think have been thwarted or is that just a buzzphrase you've chucking into the mix?