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But surely you'd realise that maybe giving the Tories the control that you're taking from Europe isn't the best idea based on how they've handled leaving?
It's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2019, 03:59:08 pmIt's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.
Mike Harding #FBPE @HardingMike · 8h8 hours ago More 3 yrs ago -17.4 mill voted Leave 16.1 mill voted Remain. The 16 mill have been abused, called "remoaners and traitors, queue jumpers and citizens of nowhere." The BBC have largely ignored them and the Tory Press have vilified them. The 17.4 mill are in meltdown. Stay strong.
I think most other remainers are outraged, too, BB. I think the sticking point for most is to do with foreign money being illegally funneled into British politics by far-right spivs harvesting our personal data (also illegally). I wouldn't say some remainers being a bit rude sometimes - after 3 years of being called sheep, liberal elite, middle class traitors who should be hanged, etc - compares to that, but different strokes and all that.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2019, 04:39:49 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2019, 03:59:08 pmIt's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.In the interests of fairness BST, isn't it likely that marginally under a million of people who voted remain have also died since the vote ?
Quote from: Pancho Regan on May 23, 2019, 09:04:34 amSo it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?Pancho, the only reason we're having this election is because Parliament has failed to deliver the mandate they were given by the people, that they promised to honour.
So it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 23, 2019, 03:20:10 pmQuote from: Pancho Regan on May 23, 2019, 09:04:34 amSo it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?Pancho, the only reason we're having this election is because Parliament has failed to deliver the mandate they were given by the people, that they promised to honour. Parliament was not given a mandate by the people. Parliament simply responded to a non-binding referendum. That is not a mandate, it's not even the will of the people, it's not even a majority of the people who live on these sceptred isles; it's simply a desire to leave the EU by 17.4 million people who didn't have a united view of what kind of leave they were actually voting for, and don't have a united view of what kind of leave they want even now! That the referendum offered a binary choice with no detail whatsoever as to what leave meant was stupid in the first place; those who fail to see that, see the damage that it has already caused the country, and see the damage that will continue to be caused when we leave are even dafter.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 23, 2019, 06:38:38 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 23, 2019, 03:20:10 pmQuote from: Pancho Regan on May 23, 2019, 09:04:34 amSo it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?Pancho, the only reason we're having this election is because Parliament has failed to deliver the mandate they were given by the people, that they promised to honour. Parliament was not given a mandate by the people. Parliament simply responded to a non-binding referendum. That is not a mandate, it's not even the will of the people, it's not even a majority of the people who live on these sceptred isles; it's simply a desire to leave the EU by 17.4 million people who didn't have a united view of what kind of leave they were actually voting for, and don't have a united view of what kind of leave they want even now! That the referendum offered a binary choice with no detail whatsoever as to what leave meant was stupid in the first place; those who fail to see that, see the damage that it has already caused the country, and see the damage that will continue to be caused when we leave are even dafter.Would you have said all this if Remain had won?No, I thought not.What is it about you lot that reminds me of Peterborough supporters?
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2019, 11:53:41 pmSurely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?Nah, we're not all far, middle aged, bald and racist x
Quote from: RedRover45 on May 23, 2019, 04:51:42 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2019, 04:39:49 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2019, 03:59:08 pmIt's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.In the interests of fairness BST, isn't it likely that marginally under a million of people who voted remain have also died since the vote ?Actually no. The point is that the Leave voters were disproportionately represented by the older voters.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2019, 11:53:41 pmSurely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?If the remainiacs had won the referendum it would have all been forgotten about by now.BAD LOSERS.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on May 24, 2019, 11:09:05 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2019, 11:53:41 pmSurely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?If the remainiacs had won the referendum it would have all been forgotten about by now.BAD LOSERS.What, UKIP would have given up and gone home would they?
Fascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.Labour - 26%Brexit P - 22%Cons - 22%LD - 12%12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776
Quote from: wilts rover on May 24, 2019, 01:52:28 pmFascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.Labour - 26%Brexit P - 22%Cons - 22%LD - 12%12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776 the polls could all change when the tories get a new leader I can’t see them polling any lower than they would now
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 24, 2019, 01:58:26 pmQuote from: wilts rover on May 24, 2019, 01:52:28 pmFascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.Labour - 26%Brexit P - 22%Cons - 22%LD - 12%12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776 the polls could all change when the tories get a new leader I can’t see them polling any lower than they would nowIf the tories get a hard Brexit leader they will win the next GE.