Channel crossing record beat.(again and again and again)

[SydneyRover]

Stop sucking on the lead soldiers sprot

[Colin C No.3]

Yep, Iran, Iraq, Eritrea and the Sudan are fairly cool areas

What, you mean like to ‘hang out’ in?

[SydneyRover]

dunno Col does it say that in the quote?

[SydneyRover]

  Well you can't blame them for wanting to come here, they have a good chance of being warmer in their hotels than lots of pensioners will be in their own homes from November to March.

''Getting out of the house and being in a different place costs money. So our accommodation often feels like a prison''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/10/i-miss-the-simple-things-having-a-drink-or-an-ice-cream-you-cant-do-that-on-41-a-week

[normal rules]

Official figures now puts the number of those that have crossed the channel this year to over 20,000. Or around the population of Selby.
That’s the ones we know about.

[drfchound]

Does that add any credence to the need for photo ID to enable people to vote in elections etc.

[Not Now Kato]

I'll just park this here....
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/anger-over-rwanda-political-killings-27761375

[Sprotyrover]

Stupid idea St Kilda would have been a much better option

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'll just park this here....
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/anger-over-rwanda-political-killings-27761375

Just to summarise.

1) Patel asks an expert on Rwanda for his take on whether Rwanda is safe.

2) Experts says it isn't.

3) Patel ignores him and goes ahead with the scheme.

4) Patel us taken to court and a redacted version of expert's report is presented as evidence.

5) The Plaintiffs ask for the redacted to be dumped so they can see the rest.

6) Patel's lawyer says there's no point as all it is is one expert's opinion.

[Ldr]

I’m f**king outraged

[BillyStubbsTears]

Goodness, is that the time?

[normal rules]

A record number of migrants attempted to cross the English Channel in small boats yesterday, the Ministry of Defence has revealed.

A total of 1,295 people were detected crossing the channel, the highest daily number since current records began, with 27 boats detected by the Royal Navy and Border Force vessels.

[Metalmicky]

A record number of migrants attempted to cross the English Channel in small boats yesterday, the Ministry of Defence has revealed.

A total of 1,295 people were detected crossing the channel, the highest daily number since current records began, with 27 boats detected by the Royal Navy and Border Force vessels.

27 separate boats and we have no means of stopping them..... it does seem incredulous.   

[Sprotyrover]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

[danumdon]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

Naive to think the French authorities pay anything more than lip service to these activities. They certainly don't want these migrants and are quite happy to see them disappear in their boats towards the demarcation line in the channel.

There was an article a while back that stated they were even piloting some of the boats in the right direction and virtually handing them over to the British border force to deal with.

What kind of behaviour is that! and more importantly why are the usual types on here and the EU authorities, who feel they have something to say about everything except this, not making any sort of fuss about the French pursuing this very dangerous for the migrants policy. ?

Why are the French considered untouchable and unimpeachable for everything they wish to do.

Why do so many NGO.s make such a big stink about how these arrivals are handled and subsequently dealt with over here but have absolutely nothing to say about the disgusting conditions that the French force these unfortunates to have to live in?

Can anyone blame them for risking their lives to get here?

[i_ateallthepies]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

Naive to think the French authorities pay anything more than lip service to these activities. They certainly don't want these migrants and are quite happy to see them disappear in their boats towards the demarcation line in the channel.

There was an article a while back that stated they were even piloting some of the boats in the right direction and virtually handing them over to the British border force to deal with.

What kind of behaviour is that! and more importantly why are the usual types on here and the EU authorities, who feel they have something to say about everything except this, not making any sort of fuss about the French pursuing this very dangerous for the migrants policy. ?

Why are the French considered untouchable and unimpeachable for everything they wish to do.

Why do so many NGO.s make such a big stink about how these arrivals are handled and subsequently dealt with over here but have absolutely nothing to say about the disgusting conditions that the French force these unfortunates to have to live in?

Can anyone blame them for risking their lives to get here?

Go on then, DD, tell us what the UK would do if the boot were on the other foot.

[danumdon]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

Naive to think the French authorities pay anything more than lip service to these activities. They certainly don't want these migrants and are quite happy to see them disappear in their boats towards the demarcation line in the channel.

There was an article a while back that stated they were even piloting some of the boats in the right direction and virtually handing them over to the British border force to deal with.

What kind of behaviour is that! and more importantly why are the usual types on here and the EU authorities, who feel they have something to say about everything except this, not making any sort of fuss about the French pursuing this very dangerous for the migrants policy. ?

Why are the French considered untouchable and unimpeachable for everything they wish to do.

Why do so many NGO.s make such a big stink about how these arrivals are handled and subsequently dealt with over here but have absolutely nothing to say about the disgusting conditions that the French force these unfortunates to have to live in?

Can anyone blame them for risking their lives to get here?

Go on then, DD, tell us what the UK would do if the boot were on the other foot.

Totally hypothetical and crass question as the UK is proving what it's doing by treating these migrants with some  respect and dignity by giving them a damn sight more assistance than the French have ever done.

[normal rules]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

I read a report about this when it first started. Many of the boats are bought on Amazon. You would think it would be easy to track where they come from. But it isn’t by all accounts. Selling boats isn’t illegal of course. Neither is selling outboard motors.

[drfchound]

and the revelence is ?

To answer your question Syd……

R E V A L E N C E
A band of Finnish Corinthians touring the leading regattas of the world.

[i_ateallthepies]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

Naive to think the French authorities pay anything more than lip service to these activities. They certainly don't want these migrants and are quite happy to see them disappear in their boats towards the demarcation line in the channel.

There was an article a while back that stated they were even piloting some of the boats in the right direction and virtually handing them over to the British border force to deal with.

What kind of behaviour is that! and more importantly why are the usual types on here and the EU authorities, who feel they have something to say about everything except this, not making any sort of fuss about the French pursuing this very dangerous for the migrants policy. ?

Why are the French considered untouchable and unimpeachable for everything they wish to do.

Why do so many NGO.s make such a big stink about how these arrivals are handled and subsequently dealt with over here but have absolutely nothing to say about the disgusting conditions that the French force these unfortunates to have to live in?

Can anyone blame them for risking their lives to get here?

Go on then, DD, tell us what the UK would do if the boot were on the other foot.

Totally hypothetical and crass question as the UK is proving what it's doing by treating these migrants with some  respect and dignity by giving them a damn sight more assistance than the French have ever done.

Along with the irresistible inducement of an all expenses paid trip to Rwanda?

[danumdon]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

Naive to think the French authorities pay anything more than lip service to these activities. They certainly don't want these migrants and are quite happy to see them disappear in their boats towards the demarcation line in the channel.

There was an article a while back that stated they were even piloting some of the boats in the right direction and virtually handing them over to the British border force to deal with.

What kind of behaviour is that! and more importantly why are the usual types on here and the EU authorities, who feel they have something to say about everything except this, not making any sort of fuss about the French pursuing this very dangerous for the migrants policy. ?

Why are the French considered untouchable and unimpeachable for everything they wish to do.

Why do so many NGO.s make such a big stink about how these arrivals are handled and subsequently dealt with over here but have absolutely nothing to say about the disgusting conditions that the French force these unfortunates to have to live in?

Can anyone blame them for risking their lives to get here?

Go on then, DD, tell us what the UK would do if the boot were on the other foot.

Totally hypothetical and crass question as the UK is proving what it's doing by treating these migrants with some  respect and dignity by giving them a damn sight more assistance than the French have ever done.

Along with the irresistible inducement of an all expenses paid trip to Rwanda?

Using a fictional situation that is never likely to happen to try to strengthen your point of view = lame point of view.

[i_ateallthepies]

How do you inflate 27 Boats large enough to carry 50 people put our order motors on them load them and not come to the attention of the French authorities!

Naive to think the French authorities pay anything more than lip service to these activities. They certainly don't want these migrants and are quite happy to see them disappear in their boats towards the demarcation line in the channel.

There was an article a while back that stated they were even piloting some of the boats in the right direction and virtually handing them over to the British border force to deal with.

What kind of behaviour is that! and more importantly why are the usual types on here and the EU authorities, who feel they have something to say about everything except this, not making any sort of fuss about the French pursuing this very dangerous for the migrants policy. ?

Why are the French considered untouchable and unimpeachable for everything they wish to do.

Why do so many NGO.s make such a big stink about how these arrivals are handled and subsequently dealt with over here but have absolutely nothing to say about the disgusting conditions that the French force these unfortunates to have to live in?

Can anyone blame them for risking their lives to get here?

Go on then, DD, tell us what the UK would do if the boot were on the other foot.

Totally hypothetical and crass question as the UK is proving what it's doing by treating these migrants with some  respect and dignity by giving them a damn sight more assistance than the French have ever done.

Along with the irresistible inducement of an all expenses paid trip to Rwanda?

Using a fictional situation that is never likely to happen to try to strengthen your point of view = lame point of view.

I think anyone reading this can decide for themselves which of us is offering a lame point of view.

[normal rules]

You won’t see this in the news, but 50 Albanian migrants that were being housed in the Comfort Inn at Bicker Bar, near Boston have disappeared. They have failed to comply with their Immigration bail conditions. They have up and left. And the authorities have no idea where they are. They are not alone. There are increasing reports of Albanian migrants disappearing from hostels, hotels and motels where the uk govt were housing them. Up and down the uk.
The  growing concern in the UK is that they are being recruited by existing uk based Albanian organised crime groups.

[Panda]

It isn't a growing concern. It is a reality.

[Sprotyrover]

They are the masters of Human Traffickig, males used to deal drugs, females forced to prostitution!

[normal rules]

They are the masters of Human Traffickig, males used to deal drugs, females forced to prostitution!

The Albanian crime gangs are well know across Europe for being the most determined,  most organised, and most ruthless of all criminal enterprises.
And we let em here. In rubber dinghies. And they keep coming.

[wilts rover]

If only the Tories had been in power for... oh hang on...

[SydneyRover]

They are the masters of Human Traffickig, males used to deal drugs, females forced to prostitution!

I wonder who uses these services, surely not Brits?

[Panda]

They are the masters of Human Traffickig, males used to deal drugs, females forced to prostitution!

I wonder who uses these services, surely not Brits?

It's a fair point.

[Sprotyrover]

I doubt many come across in Dinghies, they are coming in on stolen identity documents, they have developed an entire industry around forging documents and stealing identities.