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So Sproty we'd better not discuss politics in the USA or anywhere else then
I just wonder why he comes on here trolling Politics when he lives in OZ and told peeps at the back of the South stand that he was fed up of the country, I don't mind him having a say on the team but as he bogged off for a better life over a decade ago He needs to find an Aussie Forum to spout his Political views on!
It's only trolling if you disagree apparently, anyway I'm trying to improve things for when I get back, I'm looking at a couple of places on Melton rd but I prefer to be a bit closer to shops and stuff so Cromwell Dr may suit me better
Quote from: SydneyRover on April 11, 2020, 06:03:54 amIt's only trolling if you disagree apparently, anyway I'm trying to improve things for when I get back, I'm looking at a couple of places on Melton rd but I prefer to be a bit closer to shops and stuff so Cromwell Dr may suit me better If he wants to be my neighbour on Melton road I haven't got a Problem, as most houses are at least 25 yards apart and very rarely come onto the Market.Hey Sproty, he could be your neighbour,(He probably only picked those locations to wind you up).
Quote from: Sprotyrover on April 10, 2020, 03:42:52 pmI just wonder why he comes on here trolling Politics when he lives in OZ and told peeps at the back of the South stand that he was fed up of the country, I don't mind him having a say on the team but as he bogged off for a better life over a decade ago He needs to find an Aussie Forum to spout his Political views on!Congratulations! You've won "Little Englander 2020".It's a title you thoroughly deserve.
Starmer's taken to PMQ like a duck to water. In the previous exchange, Starmer had given a criticism of the Govt handling of CV-19 and asked if the Govt would consider inviting Labour to the table when policy was being discussed. Raab then laid into him for having had the temerity to criticise the Govt.Here was the result. https://mobile.twitter.com/jude5456/status/1255457611933196288Doesn't mean anything of course. Hague used to run rings round Blair at PMQs. But in the current era, a clinical, well-prepared LotO holding the Govt to account is exactly what is required.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 29, 2020, 07:50:28 pmStarmer's taken to PMQ like a duck to water. In the previous exchange, Starmer had given a criticism of the Govt handling of CV-19 and asked if the Govt would consider inviting Labour to the table when policy was being discussed. Raab then laid into him for having had the temerity to criticise the Govt.Here was the result. https://mobile.twitter.com/jude5456/status/1255457611933196288Doesn't mean anything of course. Hague used to run rings round Blair at PMQs. But in the current era, a clinical, well-prepared LotO holding the Govt to account is exactly what is required. A top class Barrister v A second rate Solicitor, there is no contest, wait until the failed journalist turns up 😂😂😂😂😂
Quote from: Filo on April 29, 2020, 08:37:07 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 29, 2020, 07:50:28 pmStarmer's taken to PMQ like a duck to water. In the previous exchange, Starmer had given a criticism of the Govt handling of CV-19 and asked if the Govt would consider inviting Labour to the table when policy was being discussed. Raab then laid into him for having had the temerity to criticise the Govt.Here was the result. https://mobile.twitter.com/jude5456/status/1255457611933196288Doesn't mean anything of course. Hague used to run rings round Blair at PMQs. But in the current era, a clinical, well-prepared LotO holding the Govt to account is exactly what is required. A top class Barrister v A second rate Solicitor, there is no contest, wait until the failed journalist turns up 😂😂😂😂😂Remember Buster Douglas?
Yes, Labour supporters will be very impressed with Starmer. I can see him being the leader of the opposition for years.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on April 29, 2020, 08:29:13 pmYes, Labour supporters will be very impressed with Starmer. I can see him being the leader of the opposition for years.God forbid an intelligent and credible bloke should lead a political party in this day and age .Better stick with the bankrupt king and reality tv idiot across the pond or the shake hands with corvid-19 patients serial liar we have in the UK .I'll give Johnson 18 months tops before his own party , media and donors turn on him .With what's coming down the road he won't even be around to fight the next election .Simple choice for the Tories , get rid of the idiot or Labour win with a landslide under Starmer .You heard it here first .
If you see your friend in the near future SS then maybe you could mention to him that Starmer is asking people like him to contact him and speak about why Labour has lost his trust and what he can do to win it back. He was planning on doing sessions all around the country but events overtook him.Nice interview with him here. He comes over just as nice, dull, boring, intelligent and extremely competent as in every other interview I have read on him - time will tell if that is what people want in a leader.https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-i-won-t-be-defined-by-our-past-leaders-a4429356.html
Quote from: tyke1962 on April 30, 2020, 10:12:29 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on April 29, 2020, 08:29:13 pmYes, Labour supporters will be very impressed with Starmer. I can see him being the leader of the opposition for years.God forbid an intelligent and credible bloke should lead a political party in this day and age .Better stick with the bankrupt king and reality tv idiot across the pond or the shake hands with corvid-19 patients serial liar we have in the UK .I'll give Johnson 18 months tops before his own party , media and donors turn on him .With what's coming down the road he won't even be around to fight the next election .Simple choice for the Tories , get rid of the idiot or Labour win with a landslide under Starmer .You heard it here first .Tyke, I totally agree with you about Starmer being intelligent and credible. He's also a very decent man. However, you must also not forget that he showed an astonishing lack of judgement on Brexit, when it came to Labour voters in the North, which contributed to the terrible pummeling the Party took last year.When out on my walk today, I came across an old friend of mine, a guy who has been the staunchest Labour supporter I've ever known, all of his life. He's always hated the Tories with a passion, and still does.When I asked him about Starmer, he said that in his opinion the guy would be a disaster for the Party, and that Labour are now interested in nothing but London and the South.Whether he's right or wrong, Tyke, the thing is that there'll be millions thinking like him in the North of England. How does Starmer now get them all back on board? Because he's certainly going to have to if the Labour Party are going to turn an 80 seat Tory majority into the Labour landslide that you're predicting in 2024.
Whatever Starmer has done to the people of the North it can't posiibly compare to what the tories have done to the North surely, as Tyke says get over it move on.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2020, 07:54:47 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on April 30, 2020, 10:12:29 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on April 29, 2020, 08:29:13 pmYes, Labour supporters will be very impressed with Starmer. I can see him being the leader of the opposition for years.God forbid an intelligent and credible bloke should lead a political party in this day and age .Better stick with the bankrupt king and reality tv idiot across the pond or the shake hands with corvid-19 patients serial liar we have in the UK .I'll give Johnson 18 months tops before his own party , media and donors turn on him .With what's coming down the road he won't even be around to fight the next election .Simple choice for the Tories , get rid of the idiot or Labour win with a landslide under Starmer .You heard it here first .Tyke, I totally agree with you about Starmer being intelligent and credible. He's also a very decent man. However, you must also not forget that he showed an astonishing lack of judgement on Brexit, when it came to Labour voters in the North, which contributed to the terrible pummeling the Party took last year.When out on my walk today, I came across an old friend of mine, a guy who has been the staunchest Labour supporter I've ever known, all of his life. He's always hated the Tories with a passion, and still does.When I asked him about Starmer, he said that in his opinion the guy would be a disaster for the Party, and that Labour are now interested in nothing but London and the South.Whether he's right or wrong, Tyke, the thing is that there'll be millions thinking like him in the North of England. How does Starmer now get them all back on board? Because he's certainly going to have to if the Labour Party are going to turn an 80 seat Tory majority into the Labour landslide that you're predicting in 2024.Steve I'm aware of Starmer's stance on brexit and its catastrophic consequences in the heartlands .The way I look at is that we need to move on now , the brexit argument is over and done with , we have left now and that's that .We need to bury the hatchet come together behind the new leader , I'm an ardent leaver so I've figured if I can move on then we should all be able to .Starmer as Wilts has pointed out is reaching out to the heartlands and asking the questions and no doubt he will take on board what's he's hearing .He's intelligent enough to know things need to change and I fully believe he will get the party united and ready for government .It won't be a quick fix solution and it doesn't need to be as there isn't an election for 4 years .Step by step rather than knee jerk decisions .I think he will shift the party more towards the centre ground as time goes on and the electorate will have a choice of right wing populist v centre ground credibility .Four more years of this clown and what's coming down the road economically from the aftermath of this pandemic will I feel see a return to common sense and credibility .Crisis government's never get re-elected historically , not even Churchill could manage that or Gordon Brown to a lesser extent .I'm a left wing man myself but we have to compromise to get elected , I understand that .A centre Labour Government is still a damn sight more preferable than a Tory one led by this buffoon that I do know .
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2020, 07:54:47 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on April 30, 2020, 10:12:29 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on April 29, 2020, 08:29:13 pmYes, Labour supporters will be very impressed with Starmer. I can see him being the leader of the opposition for years.God forbid an intelligent and credible bloke should lead a political party in this day and age .Better stick with the bankrupt king and reality tv idiot across the pond or the shake hands with corvid-19 patients serial liar we have in the UK .I'll give Johnson 18 months tops before his own party , media and donors turn on him .With what's coming down the road he won't even be around to fight the next election .Simple choice for the Tories , get rid of the idiot or Labour win with a landslide under Starmer .You heard it here first .Tyke, I totally agree with you about Starmer being intelligent and credible. He's also a very decent man. However, you must also not forget that he showed an astonishing lack of judgement on Brexit, when it came to Labour voters in the North, which contributed to the terrible pummeling the Party took last year.When out on my walk today, I came across an old friend of mine, a guy who has been the staunchest Labour supporter I've ever known, all of his life. He's always hated the Tories with a passion, and still does.When I asked him about Starmer, he said that in his opinion the guy would be a disaster for the Party, and that Labour are now interested in nothing but London and the South.Whether he's right or wrong, Tyke, the thing is that there'll be millions thinking like him in the North of England. How does Starmer now get them all back on board? Because he's certainly going to have to if the Labour Party are going to turn an 80 seat Tory majority into the Labour landslide that you're predicting in 2024.Just out of interest SS, by that last part would your friend be then voting for the Tories or didn't they allude to that? If it sounds like they'd vote Tory then how come Boris is seen as someone who cares more about Northern folk than Starmer?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on May 02, 2020, 06:59:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2020, 07:54:47 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on April 30, 2020, 10:12:29 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on April 29, 2020, 08:29:13 pmYes, Labour supporters will be very impressed with Starmer. I can see him being the leader of the opposition for years.God forbid an intelligent and credible bloke should lead a political party in this day and age .Better stick with the bankrupt king and reality tv idiot across the pond or the shake hands with corvid-19 patients serial liar we have in the UK .I'll give Johnson 18 months tops before his own party , media and donors turn on him .With what's coming down the road he won't even be around to fight the next election .Simple choice for the Tories , get rid of the idiot or Labour win with a landslide under Starmer .You heard it here first .Tyke, I totally agree with you about Starmer being intelligent and credible. He's also a very decent man. However, you must also not forget that he showed an astonishing lack of judgement on Brexit, when it came to Labour voters in the North, which contributed to the terrible pummeling the Party took last year.When out on my walk today, I came across an old friend of mine, a guy who has been the staunchest Labour supporter I've ever known, all of his life. He's always hated the Tories with a passion, and still does.When I asked him about Starmer, he said that in his opinion the guy would be a disaster for the Party, and that Labour are now interested in nothing but London and the South.Whether he's right or wrong, Tyke, the thing is that there'll be millions thinking like him in the North of England. How does Starmer now get them all back on board? Because he's certainly going to have to if the Labour Party are going to turn an 80 seat Tory majority into the Labour landslide that you're predicting in 2024.Just out of interest SS, by that last part would your friend be then voting for the Tories or didn't they allude to that? If it sounds like they'd vote Tory then how come Boris is seen as someone who cares more about Northern folk than Starmer?You didn't read the post properly, DO. I said my friend hates the Tories with a passion, so obviously he won't be voting for them, as I never would, being an ex-miner.As regards those in the North that did vote Tory, it was nothing to do with Boris caring about them, it was about him honouring the Referendum result, which Labour didn't.Simple as; and now Starmer has got to get them all back on board.
Just a point if labour were punished for not honouring the ref result what did the tories offer people of the North for the last 10 years which they must have honoured to win successive elections, vote for us and we'll trash the economy, reduce your personal wealth, f**k over the NHS, make employment insecure, starve councils of funds and the best of all 'we'll get Austerity done'