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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: not on facebook on October 04, 2017, 08:51:31 pm
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FLA > Football Lads Allience wil be having their 2nd march this weekend,the first been 3 month back where 10,000 football lads from numerous different clubs marched in a silent protest against extreme Muslim terrorists.
The march went well with no reported trouble at all.
This weekend there will be far more lads from far more clubs all over the country ,as more northern ,midlands and Scottish/ welsh clubs will have lads on the march.
My guess will be 20,000+ maybe close to 30,000 that will turn out.
I know for a fact that lads will be turning up from Norway,Belgium,Poland and other European country's to join in.
No club or country colours are allowed on the march along with chants ,hence a silent march.
Word on the street is that the antifa nut jobs plan to attack or disrupt the FLA march .if so this will be the test for the FLA > fingers crossed that the antifa lot stay in bed.
For the life of me I can't quite workout what the antifa will accuse the FLA march of been in their quest to disrupt it.
Racist scum > no as blacks and Hindus will be within the FLA march in numbers .
There will be no sign of st George flags etc etc .
Mondays newspapers will have it all over the front pages should it turn nasty,and bugger all if the march is peacefull just like the first march.
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You're absolutely desperate for Antifa to try and disrupt it aren't you? they've not even said anything about it, and they may never say anything about it, yet you're already foaming at the mouth about the idea of it. :laugh:
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I really hope the antifa stay in bed and stay well out of the way,but you be a fool if groups like the antifa were not taken into account.
Last time the march was held it was when Glastonbury was on ,there is nothing keeping said group off the streets this weekend.
It's as simple as this mr red ,20,000+ FLA march this weekend and no outside groups are there to disturb it ,the march will pass by trouble free as the FLA will police themselves.
If likes of antifa are out and about trying to disturb things ,you can't say FLA march will pass by trouble free.
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But you're getting pissed off about something that may not happen and probably won't. :laugh:
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FLA, don't make me laugh, I do hope someone makes a rerun of dads army with this shower, who think they are our countries saviours and last line of defence. You have a handful that truly believe they are saviours, then the right wing loons who just follow on and the few who will inevitably make a few quid selling shite. What is it they hope to achieve?
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DR > at least they are trying to be at lest heard via the silent no club or country march .
The 1st march had likes of west ham/ millwall ,Spurs/Chelsea in large numbers with not one bit of stress within the march.
Now if them 4 mobs of lads can keep their hands clean all and sundry can and will.
They have a closed shop Facebook page and there is a waiting list of numerous wanting to get in .every application to Join the Facebook page is checked through ,and if your background don't fit within what the FLA set out you will not get into the Facebook page.
1st march had 10,000 with 90% or more been of 40+ age upto to 60 years old I guess > so all old heads .
The march this weekend will pull 20,000+ for sure with a lot more clubs represented with a much wider age scale.
But just like the football mobs of the 1980s the older heads will run s tight ship as respect will pass all the way down as all and sundry will know how to act or not act on the march.
If some right wing lads turn up ,they will soon be rooted out if they decide to play up in a right wing way.same can be said if any lads chant club songs or turn up with club/country colours.
Iam 200% certian that there will be no fisty cuffs between any rival firms within the march ,no club or country colours or chants.
Iam told they have over 60,000 on the Facebook page ,with a waiting list behind that. They have asked not for lads to vouch for girlfriends wives or non football lads to be vouched to join the Facebook .
If this march is successful ,that will lead into a 3rd march I guess with even more turning up as momentum wil kick in .
Keeping that momentum on the up will be their problem I figure.
Will the FLA save the country ,I doubt it but at least it gives a Middle of the road working class lads the opportunity to walk a march without been deemed a racist etc etc and a platform to build from.
Will it stop hands getting dirty at the football the weekend after the march , I doubt it but that's not the point of the FLA .
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I have never heard of anything so stupid as this march. Why Muslim terrorists? Isn't the word Muslim irrelevant? Isn't it terrorists that are the problem be they Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or No Religion. Just a load of Racists looking for an excuse for a day out and to ply their hate and filth. A pathetic irrelevance.
An old head that knows better.
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My mistake Jeff its FLA aginst extreme terrorist or terrorism going from what banner they was walking behind last time out.
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FFS can we give it a rest with Antifa. Thing with Antifa is, they're held up by the far-right as a sort of counterpoint to all the racist, sexist, neo-nazi marching that's been going off recently. It's sort of a "look, the other side has bad guys too!" sort of thing, trying to deflect away from the real issues.
Not everyone to the left of UKIP is in Antifa. Even if they were, what actually is Antifa? It's not a solid group like, say, Britain First. There isn't a leader, there are just a series of unconnected cells. Some of those cells treat it more as a social club, and just hang out and drink tea together. Some use it to raise money for charities. Some go on protests etc for a variety of causes, and some are the kind of black mask wearing d**kheads that go around kicking shop windows in. BUT, not every black tracksuit wearing rioter is in Antifa, just like not every Antifa 'member' is a rioter either.
It's a very complicated issue, and frankly the way Antifa is held up as some sort of counterbalance to condone fascist and neo-nazi marching is disgusting quite frankly. Not accusing anyone in this thread of that btw, just something I've been noticing a lot of on social media recently.
It's easy to imagine there's an organised army of black-clad anarchists coming to get you, but that's just not the case.
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Great displays in the middle of Leeds today. Me and my wife were encouraged to come in for free food (langhar) from an extremely friendly group of Sikhs. All people are welcome to a free meal regardless of their sex,colour or religion. in Briggate there was also a big presence of Muslims against extremism. As Jo Cox said and was murdered for we have more in common than separates us.
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My mistake Jeff its FLA aginst extreme terrorist or terrorism going from what banner they was walking behind last time out.
A Freudian slip is a verbal or memory mistake that is believed to be linked to the unconscious mind. These slips supposedly reveal the real secret thoughts and feelings that people hold.
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My mistake Jeff its FLA aginst extreme terrorist or terrorism going from what banner they was walking behind last time out.
That's Grand then Oslo. We're all against extreme terrorists.
Personally, I can live with moderate terrorists though.
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Suppose > no terrorist > would be better all round BST ,but that is a big ask.
Looks like Iam on end of a slight type of terrorism via a certian SR off here since about tea time today.
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Did you hear the sound of the joke going over your head?
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Did you hear the sound of the joke going over your head?
You mean that joke sad rovers ,saying he wants to kick my head in infront of my family as witnesses ? some joke that redj.
I have just taken out a upgrade on my health insurance policy ,to cover attacks from > A clown or a mob of clowns > full comp > nose bleeds ,fat lips , back eyes .
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Did you hear the sound of the joke going over your head?
You mean that joke Jeff blaksley ,saying he wants to kick my head in infront of my family as witnesses ? some joke that redj.
I have just taken out a upgrade on my health insurance policy ,to cover attacks from > A clown or a mob of clowns > full comp > nose bleeds ,fat lips , back eyes .
...yes, that's obviously what I meant while replying to your post that was replying to BST...
Jesus wept.
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Yes I did clock mr BST sense of humour .
But Iam on defcon 1 alert and Iam trying to workout where this threat from SR was posted since it seems powers that be have removed it,which in turn tells me there was such a post.
I was using your post in hope to draw out SR into the open or anyone else that read the post in question ,but to no avail as the cat is now out of the bag .
I guess worse things happen at sea .
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I would like to say sorry to mr Geoff blakesley 1001 times as i was wrong when I wrote that Geoff basically had posted he wanted to kick my head in infront of my family to see.
I kept on thinking that this is not the behavior of a school teacher.
I never got to read the said post as addmin have deleted the post which was posted by another member as such a post was out there Iam told.
Sorry Geoff
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
How's that for being 'anti-extremism'?!
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
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Apology accepted NOF.
Geoff
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So we're back to "anyone whose opinion is different to mine is a Kitson".
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
Just coins and cans.
I reckon the police would have been justified in arresting the "football lad" who said "I'll ****ing cut you up, you ****"
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
Apologies Oslo, when you said in your opening post that no chants or songs were going to be allowed as it was a silent march I just presumed that it would be a silent march with no chants or songs. So the next time you say one thing I shall just take it that the opposite will be the truth.
Just to make it even clearer there is no one in that anti-fascist group protesting against that march. All the placards they have are anti-racisit and anti-islamaphobia - thus they are also opposing extremists who have those views. You would therefore expect people on an anti-extremism march to applaud them rather than abuse them.
You can tell me they are anti-extremist. I will look and see what they do and say and make my own mind up. Just like the Army veterans charity who was supposed to be co-organising it with them did when they pulled out two days before.
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Those counter protesters seemed to be made up of teachers, according to the banners they were holding. Hardly some left wing socialist group, is it?
Are we really at a point now where everyone to the left of the f**king EDL are "socialist flith"? f**k me. I'm really baffled about the reality Oslo lives in. Oslo mate, the very video you posted shows these "peaceful" FLA guys pointing at black and brown faces yelling "terrorist scum", trying to square up to counter-protesters behind the police cordon, slapping leaflets out of people's hands. Yet apparently this is a peaceful march being antagonised by "Antifa" socialists who are also teachers. Just baffling.
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Apology accepted NOF.
Geoff
Your a gentleman sir a gentleman ,I will sleep a lot better tonight believe me.
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
Apologies Oslo, when you said in your opening post that no chants or songs were going to be allowed as it was a silent march I just presumed that it would be a silent march with no chants or songs. So the next time you say one thing I shall just take it that the opposite will be the truth.
Just to make it even clearer there is no one in that anti-fascist group protesting against that march. All the placards they have are anti-racisit and anti-islamaphobia - thus they are also opposing extremists who have those views. You would therefore expect people on an anti-extremism march to applaud them rather than abuse them.
You can tell me they are anti-extremist. I will look and see what they do and say and make my own mind up. Just like the Army veterans charity who was supposed to be co-organising it with them did when they pulled out two days before.
I just saw one big mob walking by a much smaller mob and giving them volleys of verbal abuse via chants with a few gobbling off whatever.
One bloke was calling them terrorists ,but it’s not a nickable offence is it the whole behavior of the walk pass.
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
Apologies Oslo, when you said in your opening post that no chants or songs were going to be allowed as it was a silent march I just presumed that it would be a silent march with no chants or songs. So the next time you say one thing I shall just take it that the opposite will be the truth.
Just to make it even clearer there is no one in that anti-fascist group protesting against that march. All the placards they have are anti-racisit and anti-islamaphobia - thus they are also opposing extremists who have those views. You would therefore expect people on an anti-extremism march to applaud them rather than abuse them.
You can tell me they are anti-extremist. I will look and see what they do and say and make my own mind up. Just like the Army veterans charity who was supposed to be co-organising it with them did when they pulled out two days before.
Are you getting hung up because 30 handed small group of school teachers look alikes got chants sang at them in a silent march mr wilts.
Look on the great side of this march ,not one broken window or one police siren ,no cars or local shops damaged as they got their point across,
The reason why FLA ask for a silent march is because they are bowing down to the antifa and socialist etc etc ,because if they was all singing England or rule Britannia etc etc they andvyoutself would all be claiming that it was a racist march.
Hence why no club or country flags or banners aswell .
If the same 30000 do the same march next week with english and Union jacks all over the place with engerland till I die chants it be all over the bbc news and spouted from crank jobs like yourself it was all racist .
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I saw a load of middle aged never were going be's, hiding their fear of the world behind bravado and safety in numbers.
Depends on your perspective I suppose.
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So let's recap:
They're not silent.
They're not self-policing.
There were football club identifiers aplenty.
And now, because you maintain they railed against a 'socialist' group, they're now not non-political either.
Is there ANYTHING you've told us about what the FLA is meant to be actually true?
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Did you hear the sound of the joke going over your head?
You mean that joke sad rovers ,saying he wants to kick my head in infront of my family as witnesses ? some joke that redj.
I have just taken out a upgrade on my health insurance policy ,to cover attacks from > A clown or a mob of clowns > full comp > nose bleeds ,fat lips , back eyes .
Excellent misquote of a now deleted post, Oslo. I said that racist f**k-nuggets should be dragged from their homes and kicked in. If you identify as a racist (as I'm fairly sure you do) then that is your business.
Iam only posting what I was texted to me son as I did not see the post.
The bit about you wanting to Knick me out I can live with ,but you added extra with wanting it
to happen in front of my family .
Anyway Iam not racist son shine
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So let's recap:
They're not silent.
They're not self-policing
And now, because you maintain they railed against a 'socialist' group, they're now not non-political either.
Is there ANYTHING you've told us about what the FLA is meant to be like actually true?
The lad wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him on the arse, Glyn.
It's just beginning to look more and more like an EDL rebrand to me. And they lost their credibility because they shouted for all those extremists Muslims who didn't like Britain to get out of the country, which really worked well when they did exactly that, joined ISIS and started beheading people!
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
Apologies Oslo, when you said in your opening post that no chants or songs were going to be allowed as it was a silent march I just presumed that it would be a silent march with no chants or songs. So the next time you say one thing I shall just take it that the opposite will be the truth.
Just to make it even clearer there is no one in that anti-fascist group protesting against that march. All the placards they have are anti-racisit and anti-islamaphobia - thus they are also opposing extremists who have those views. You would therefore expect people on an anti-extremism march to applaud them rather than abuse them.
You can tell me they are anti-extremist. I will look and see what they do and say and make my own mind up. Just like the Army veterans charity who was supposed to be co-organising it with them did when they pulled out two days before.
I just saw one big mob walking by a much smaller mob and giving them volleys of verbal abuse via chants with a few gobbling off whatever.
One bloke was calling them terrorists ,but it’s not a nickable offence is it the whole behavior of the walk pass.
Not much of a silent march if they were giving a volley of abuse.
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Report and video on the march and the 'Anti-Fa' counter protests in todays Independent.
Apparently the Anti-Fa stood in silence with their placards outside Downing Street whilst the FLA marchers went down Whitehall. Chanting, making gestures and throwing objects at them.
So the people who were supposedly having a silent peaceful march acted in an aggressive and offensive manner to members of the public, whilst the people who were supposedly going to be aggressive and violent were the ones standing peaceful and silent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/football-lads-alliance-inside-far-right-march-london-edl-london-a7988451.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZvX0OANHw
You mean this mr wilts > who are yer who are yer or who the f**king hell are you > two chants that are sang at the football game in game out.
30,000 passed by that small group of left wing socialist pillockks ,whose planned to stand at that exact spot handing out their socialist filth newsheets to a huge mob of football fans who are just all in the main non political .
The police were stood there and did not make one arrest as I doubt that they can drag a lad into the courts for chanting 'who the f**king hell are you '
Not one kick or punch thrown .
Apologies Oslo, when you said in your opening post that no chants or songs were going to be allowed as it was a silent march I just presumed that it would be a silent march with no chants or songs. So the next time you say one thing I shall just take it that the opposite will be the truth.
Just to make it even clearer there is no one in that anti-fascist group protesting against that march. All the placards they have are anti-racisit and anti-islamaphobia - thus they are also opposing extremists who have those views. You would therefore expect people on an anti-extremism march to applaud them rather than abuse them.
You can tell me they are anti-extremist. I will look and see what they do and say and make my own mind up. Just like the Army veterans charity who was supposed to be co-organising it with them did when they pulled out two days before.
Are you getting hung up because 30 handed small group of school teachers look alikes got chants sang at them in a silent march mr wilts.
Look on the great side of this march ,not one broken window or one police siren ,no cars or local shops damaged as they got their point across,
The reason why FLA ask for a silent march is because they are bowing down to the antifa and socialist etc etc ,because if they was all singing England or rule Britannia etc etc they andvyoutself would all be claiming that it was a racist march.
Hence why no club or country flags or banners aswell .
If the same 30000 do the same march next week with english and Union jacks all over the place with engerland till I die chants it be all over the bbc news and spouted from crank jobs like yourself it was all racist .
So lets have a recap then. What you said wasn't true and it is my fault for pointing that out...
What else have you said that isn't true Mr Oslo?
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I saw a load of middle aged never were going be's, hiding their fear of the world behind bravado and safety in numbers.
Depends on your perspective I suppose.
That's why 30 000 FLA scared the shit out of a couple of hundred Russians in Marseille the other year !
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Nice looking bunch probably on their way to a gardeners question time programme. Not many black faces supporting though. Just so you know I am not in any way supporting the previous poster who seems to be as much of an idiot as those he seems to be criticising.
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There was also plenty of trouble started by Portsmouth and Brighton, heard a few smaller ones as well.
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I saw a load of middle aged never were going be's, hiding their fear of the world behind bravado and safety in numbers.
Depends on your perspective I suppose.
That's why 30 000 FLA scared the shit out of a couple of hundred Russians in Marseille the other year !
So the England support is now the FLA?? How did you reach that conclusion? This march took place whilst England fans were out in Lithuania for a WC qualifier which makes it kind of difficult to be in two places at once.
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Why do we continually let this racist, extreme right wing numpty write his tripe on this forum??? Can he not be permanently banned?
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It takes two or more to argue though. If a comment is so ridiculous in your eyes ignore it and the thread will wither on the vine.
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I saw a load of middle aged never were going be's, hiding their fear of the world behind bravado and safety in numbers.
Depends on your perspective I suppose.
That's why 30 000 FLA scared the shit out of a couple of hundred Russians in Marseille the other year !
So the England support is now the FLA?? How did you reach that conclusion? This march took place whilst England fans were out in Lithuania for a WC qualifier which makes it kind of difficult to be in two places at once.
I feel you missed the point there.
I imagine there were more people that were in Marsielle on the FLA march than travelled to Lithuania.
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Why do we continually let this racist, extreme right wing numpty write his tripe on this forum??? Can he not be permanently banned?
It looks like he's slunk off with his tail between his legs as he's not logged in here for the last two days. No doubt he'll reappear when he thinks everyone will have forgotten why he's buggered off without replying, probably when the latest right-wing wolf-in-sheep's-clothing rebrand group appears.
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Iam back Glynn > I have been away working the Holland>Sweden game and got back early this morning .
Seems there is a bucket full of questions that needs to be answered.
First assumption I will get off my chest as numerous keep on throwing the racist slur at me .maybe Iam like a bull in a china shop and I call a spade a spade and not the best in the world at getting my fealings and thoughts across .
So I will bring this pleasant lady in the 1st link below from the march on Saturday .
She says basically what I think in a more educated way and she also says more tbh.
It’s the second lady who gets interviewed from a black reporter on the march > stop watching after 7 mins and 40 seconds as the 3rd spouse lady is far too deep for me.
Then watch the 2nd link ,where you see the black interview girl speaking with a old war veteran carrying a Southampton fc reef and with untold war medals on his blazer.
The war veteran says what I think and I agree with every word he says ,as does the black girl who is doing the interview .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yrAb26T4f5o
And the second link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n24dz9LeKP4
So after watching the two above links would you and like minded say that the lady in first link and the old gent in the 2nd link along with the black girl who interviews them both are all racist ?
All three of them say what I think and they say more tbh.
When you watch the footage on those links you can’t hear a peep from the march and there are thousands infront and behind them > self controll.
As for the numbers on the march it’s been reported 73,000 > 53,000 by the police 43,000 and 5000 by the socialist spastics .i went for 30,000 going via first reports before I left for hollland.
As for the stress at the very back of the march where the 30 anti fascist lot were trying to leaflet the FLA march.
Yes there was chanting ,yes the 30 anti fascist got verbal abuse and it looks like pound coins and beer cans were thrown at them.
That was at the very back end of the march where at least 29900 FLA had passed the counter protest without a peep ,untill the last 100 where things turned .
It’s been reported that some women from the counter protest group spat on a war veteran and called him a murderer > and this is what started all the mess at the back end of the march. > I can’t say if this is bullshit or not ,but that’s what is out there.
There was not one riot shield or police riot helmet on show during the whole march,the police did not even break into a sprint to cover whatever.
The edl are finished and it’s true to say edl members would have been on that march it be stupid to say there was not.
But you can say that the likes of the edl will not have a platform to build from onany FLA march.
There is a reason why I think the next march will not pull the same amount of numbers if the info that I was told is correct >and it’s nothing to do with the FLA reaching its peak.
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That 2nd lady in the interview really hits the nail on the head on how you left wingers see anyone that don’t sing from the same song sheet .
Especially when she goes into detail about when left wing calli all and sundry a racist or Nazi .
Right Iam buggering off back to Sweden now Glynn if that is ok with you.
If Denmark qualify for Russia Iam thinking about working Sweden and Denmark games out there Glynn > it would help if I had a bag man so your more than welcome as it might open your eyes a tad.
You can subbmit any earnings you make to the Russian tax office if you like so you can go PAYE ,but I won’t that’s for sure.
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While ever you use slurs like "left wing mongers" to describe anyone who has a different opinion to your own I'm not sure how you can expect anyone to take you seriously.
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You direct the question at me as to whether I think any of those people are racist. Why are you asking that of me? I've not called anybody racist so I don't care about all that waffle you've written about racism.
And I don't give a bugger what specially selected random vox pops you put up, as we've all seen what happened on the march already - as you yourself have acknowledged and tried to defend even though it went against what the FLA was supposed to be about. Their - and your - mask has slipped for all to see.
PS Where have you got these police figures from? You say they've been reported...where? They've not been reported anywhere in the media or by the Metropolitan Police themselves either in a press release or even on twitter. If you haven't made them up you must have got them from somewhere.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/anne-marie-morris-racist-comment-woodpile-parliament-tories-prejudice-n-word-a7835161.html
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That 2nd lady in the interview really hits the nail on the head on how you left wing mongers see anyone that don’t sing from the same song sheet .
Especially when she goes into detail about when left wing calli all and sundry a racist or Nazi .
The irony. The right wing believe anyone Asian is Muslim and anyone Muslim is a terrorist.
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Is this a game we can all play?
This morning on Good Morning Scotland, Ruth Davidson spoke on recent racist remarks made from within the Conservative party. Just to recap: Douglas Ross’ divisive comments pertaining to Gypsy and Traveller communities , Alistair Majury’s tweet using an offensive term for Catholic people suggesting that all Catholics sexually abuse children, compared Scottish nationalists to Nazis, and Councillor Robert Davies posted a series of tweets alongside black and white photographs of a group of black people beside a cargo plane, with comments such as “keep your loin cloths with you at all times. Spears go in the overhead locker”.
http://www.theredcard.org/news/2017/9/1/ruth-davidson-spoke-on-recent-racist-remarks-made-from-within-the-conservative-party
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Once again for the terminally slow-learning:
Me = Tory ex soldier. Not the biggest fan of socialism.
Also me = not daft enough to believe your pack of lies about FLA being anything other than the EDL with slightly more male pattern baldness and equal measure of racism and bile bubbling away below the surface.
You = new Avatar. What happened to the old one ? I personally liked it but I agree its a free country !
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It was perfect .... and although I probably have not met you it was "you" to me if you see what I mean !
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Admin changed it for me. They're too kind in here...
Thank Christ for that.
I naively thought it was stalking a fellow rovers fan and mental illness.
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Evening Geoff, you mental failed purveyor of fishing tackle!
Think you got the wrong word there oh so sad Rover never sold fishing tackle in my life but you surely must have something more useful to do than search my mundane social media profferings !
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You direct the question at me as to whether I think any of those people are racist. Why are you asking that of me? I've not called anybody racist so I don't care about all that waffle you've written about racism.
And I don't give a bugger what specially selected random vox pops you put up, as we've all seen what happened on the march already - as you yourself have acknowledged and tried to defend even though it went against what the FLA was supposed to be about. Their - and your - mask has slipped for all to see.
PS Where have you got these police figures from? You say they've been reported...where? They've not been reported anywhere in the media or by the Metropolitan Police themselves either in a press release or even on twitter. If you haven't made them up you must have got them from somewhere.
43,000 is the figure that’s been reported to have been on the march .
There is a march in November in Edinburgh ,but that will be a veterans only march with the FLA not been involved.
Next FLA march is been looked at sometime after Xmas,and the location of said march is up in the air Iam told at the moment.
They have 70,000 members on the FLA Facebook which is a closed shop .The only way they can match that number of members on whatever march is if they went open shop to the general public on a planned march.
The bigger they get march wise, it’s obvious it could bring more problems as it’s the football lads way of thinking that’s moved the FLA onwards at the moment.
The first time that the police have to draw batons to crack heads at whatever FLA march for whatever reason the FLA will be finished is my guess .if this ends up been the case at least they tried.
The edl are now just about finished and as I said before you be a fool to say that no edl members would not have been on the last or any other march,but it’s 100% to say that likes of edl will never get or find a platform within a FLA march or membership to its closed shop Facebook .
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
It’s what has been reprted on the FLA Facebook page and my mates chelsea Wayne , Luton Dave and Leicester mick have all told me the same ,who are members of said Facebook page.
Iam > not on Facebook > so all my info on FLA is via drip feed .
there is no real reason why that figure should be wrong going on what footage I have seen and have a been told how many lads were present from what clubs.
I did ask where they got the number 43,000 from as you would say 40,000 by rounding it up to the nearest round figure ,but I have not had any feed back on that .
My guess is that the police must have set counters out as they all passed and counted them out in blocks of 1000,s.
I predicted a 30,000 march so I was not that far the 43,000 figure.
It will not do the FLA any good to bull shit their figures because if the next march in London don’t match the 43,000 they claim it will be seen as a loss .
Unless they plan to have a different march in different city’s across blighty ,which Iam told is on the cards .
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Does anybody give a fcuk about these knuckle dragging retards cos I don't !
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Does anybody give a fcuk about these knuckle dragging retards cos I don't !
43,000 do fella ,so that’s a start .
I might be wrong here ,but I can only think of one march in London that has pulled bigger numbers in the last 30 to 40 years and that might have been the poll tax demonstration .
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
It’s what has been reprted on the FLA Facebook page and my mates chelsea Wayne , Luton Dave and Leicester mick have all told me the same ,who are members of said Facebook page.
So not the police at all as you claim, then?
I asked for official figures, not your mates having a guess.
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There were over 100000 at the Anti-Austerity March in July this year and over 1 million at the Stop the Iraq War March in 2003.
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There were over 100000 at the Anti-Austerity March in July this year and over 1 million at the Stop the Iraq War March in 2003.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/mar/28/demonstrations-protests-uk-list
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
It’s what has been reprted on the FLA Facebook page and my mates chelsea Wayne , Luton Dave and Leicester mick have all told me the same ,who are members of said Facebook page.
So not the police at all as you claim, then?
I asked for official figures, not your mates having a guess.
If your that interested about the figure of the march you dig out the official fugure or whatever figure you can find and Iam happy to leave it at that .
Iam only passing on what the FLA are saying on their Facebook page.it looks possible too me so i don’t doubt their word .
10,000 > 43,000? > what will the 3rd march pull ?
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There were over 100000 at the Anti-Austerity March in July this year and over 1 million at the Stop the Iraq War March in 2003.
I thought about that Iraq war march straight after I posted and a 1 million FLA march is out of the question .
But that anti austerity march of 100,000 is possible ,but only when they go open shop to general public on planned march .
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There were over 100000 at the Anti-Austerity March in July this year and over 1 million at the Stop the Iraq War March in 2003.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/mar/28/demonstrations-protests-uk-list
Thanks for that link
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
It’s what has been reprted on the FLA Facebook page and my mates chelsea Wayne , Luton Dave and Leicester mick have all told me the same ,who are members of said Facebook page.
So not the police at all as you claim, then?
I asked for official figures, not your mates having a guess.
If your that interested about the figure of the march you dig out the official fugure or whatever figure you can find and Iam happy to leave it at that .
I can't find one anywhere. That's why I'm interested in the BS figure you keep banging on about and where you and your mates have got a 'police figure' that the police themselves haven't issued!
Come on, you were quick enough to find links to videos about racism (which I hadn't raised at all), but you seem very reticent to find one for what I have asked for all along.
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There were over 100000 at the Anti-Austerity March in July this year and over 1 million at the Stop the Iraq War March in 2003.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/mar/28/demonstrations-protests-uk-list
Thanks for that link
What very interesting about that link is how often the police figures are a fraction of what the march organisers claim.
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
It’s what has been reprted on the FLA Facebook page and my mates chelsea Wayne , Luton Dave and Leicester mick have all told me the same ,who are members of said Facebook page.
So not the police at all as you claim, then?
I asked for official figures, not your mates having a guess.
If your that interested about the figure of the march you dig out the official fugure or whatever figure you can find and Iam happy to leave it at that .
I can't find one anywhere. That's why I'm interested in the BS figure you keep banging on about and where you and your mates have got a 'police figure' that the police themselves haven't issued!
Come on, you were quick enough to find links to videos about racism (which I hadn't raised at all), but you seem very reticent to find one for what I have asked for all along.
Look at the you tube footage that is out there on the last march Glynn and see if what you see matches up to 43,000 give or take .
That’s what I have done and accept what the FLA have put out untill Iam told different.
The FLA started with 4 mates round a pub table talking after the London borough market extreme terrorist attacks > 4 weeks later in June 2017 there was a 10,000 FLA march throu London with 30,000 members on FLA Facebook.
3 months after 1st march October 2017 they have a 70,000 membership and are reporting a 43,000 march throu London.
So within the next 3 months going on membership numbers today , they should be close to 100,000 members if they keep it at a closed shop and they keep membership to their quite strict vetting policy .
So if they have the next march in London it should be pulling in 70,000 if they keep it to closed shop membership.if the 3rd march is in London this will tell all and sundry where they stand in terms of progress.
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
It’s what has been reprted on the FLA Facebook page and my mates chelsea Wayne , Luton Dave and Leicester mick have all told me the same ,who are members of said Facebook page.
So not the police at all as you claim, then?
I asked for official figures, not your mates having a guess.
If your that interested about the figure of the march you dig out the official fugure or whatever figure you can find and Iam happy to leave it at that .
I can't find one anywhere. That's why I'm interested in the BS figure you keep banging on about and where you and your mates have got a 'police figure' that the police themselves haven't issued!
Come on, you were quick enough to find links to videos about racism (which I hadn't raised at all), but you seem very reticent to find one for what I have asked for all along.
Look at the you tube footage that is out there on the last march Glynn and see if what you see matches up to 43,000 give or take .
That’s what I have done and accept what the FLA have put out untill Iam told different.
The FLA started with 4 mates round a pub table talking after the London borough market extreme terrorist attacks > 4 weeks later in June 2017 there was a 10,000 FLA march throu London with 30,000 members on FLA Facebook.
3 months after 1st march October 2017 they have a 70,000 membership and are reporting a 43,000 march throu London.
So within the next 3 months going on membership numbers today , they should be close to 100,000 members if they keep it at a closed shop and they keep membership to their quite strict vetting policy .
So if they have the next march in London it should be pulling in 70,000 if they keep it to closed shop membership.if the 3rd march is in London this will tell all and sundry where they stand in terms of progress.
Why did you say it was the police figures then when it was bullshit all the time?
If you want to believe your mate's guesses that's up to you but don't expect the rest of us to be so bloody gullible, and no need to lie about them being official police figures.
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https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45455/Mobilise+against+dangerous+new+racist+movement+after+FLA+protest+in+London (https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45455/Mobilise+against+dangerous+new+racist+movement+after+FLA+protest+in+London)
This article says there were between 15 and 20 Thousand
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https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45455/Mobilise+against+dangerous+new+racist+movement+after+FLA+protest+in+London (https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/45455/Mobilise+against+dangerous+new+racist+movement+after+FLA+protest+in+London)
This article says there were between 15 and 20 Thousand
That's just somebody else's guess.
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I'll be interested to see what NOF's thoughts are considering the source...
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I'll be interested to see what NOF's thoughts are considering the source...
Quite an eye opening read was that redj,thanks for posting the link.
I get the impression from the socialist worker and like minded, that anyone that don’t wear a black hoodie with a full face mask on and a rucksack on their back must be a racist or fascist .
What makes me chuckle is that untold lads were on this march from many northern clubs ,who will all have voted Labour as many would have read that socialist report on the march.
There is a picture from the socialist worker out there of the front man of the FLA with about 20 of his friends all in fancy dress as Jewish men > and the said paper deemed him and his friends all racist due to that picture.
Funny thing is ,is that is far from the truth as not one person in that photo is racist but that is how hard the left wing will go to discredit anything FLA with the racist slur.
I suppose in a way it’s good that socialist worker are far more worried about the FLA threat to them ,than any other threat that’s out there as this should keep the FLA on its toes.
The FLA do really need someone to addvice them on all PR aspects I guess .
They are doing a valid job within their Facebook page and have a waiting list of 5000+ waiting to be accepted to join.
They are taking far more time Iam told and doing far deeper background checks before accepting membership.
Also they are throwing out any members who post anything that’s not within the FLA non racist guidelines ,to which a lot have been blocked from posting after whatever post.
As for the 43,000 number on the march ,that’s the figure Iam told the police passed onto the FLA .
It can be found within the FLA facebook chin wag .the police had a helicopter up over the march ,so I guess that’s where they got that figure from.
I read a socialist paper report, that they must do all they can basically to to break up the FLA via counter protest I guess .this is the exact thing I was pointing out before the last march of which redj scoffed at .
So let’s see what happens on the next march.
If anyone that reads the socialist worker paper report on the FLA march and believe what’s written are FOOLS in capital letters.
Just like the verterans against terrorism lead spokesman ,the chap that was a former SAS hero as he went public spouting that there was 73,000 on the march which is b*llocks .
You have one side of the fence with a 5000 to 20000 figure spouting bolloocks ,then the other side of the fence spewing out even more knackers with a 73,000 figure .untill Iam told different i can accept 43,000 figure .
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As for the 43,000 number on the march ,that’s the figure Iam told the police passed onto the FLA .
It can be found within the FLA facebook chin wag .the police had a helicopter up over the march ,so I guess that’s where they got that figure from.
'I am told', 'I guess'. You never said that when you first told us they were police figures - when they ain't, it's just gossip from feck knows where.
Sums up you and your usual level of 'facts' perfectly.
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Like I said ted > can I call you ted ? > Iam happy with the 43,000 figure unless told different.
If your so hung up on that figure ted ,bring what you think the figure is and Iam happy to accept that within reason.
Where do you want to start the FLA march figures bidding ted ?
20,000 > 30,000 > 10,000 > ?
Without backtracking Iam sure I said that there was 30,000 on the march , as this was the first number been thrown about whilst the march was still in progress .
When I get back from holland days later 43,000 is the fjgure that police have passed onto FLA top table Iam told.
Iam all ears ted ,so please feal free to add your thoughts on the matter.
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Still waiting for you to show where exactly these "reported" figures are being reported...
Red J, can I suggest you Google it because there were a fair few on that march........rather than question it .
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He was the one giving 'reported' figures then backtracking saying it's just what he's been told. You don't make a claim then expect someone else to find evidence to support it when challenged.
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I have not back tracked at all ,only told you where I was getting my info from as you kept asking .
Iam not on the FLA Facebook for obvious reasons .
If you try to google the numbers on the last march nothing comes up as bbc and sky news and other news outlets are kept wel, away from both of the FLA marches.
The bbc was present at the last march and were filming ,but since there was no running battles or shop windows been put throu the left wing bbc did not report on the march.
Iam still happy with the 43,000 figure what FLA have reported ,but Iam open minded to other figures within reason.
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Left wing BBC nof? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
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Left wing BBC not? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
From what I pick up the bbc swung towards the left side way of thinking sometime time back .
If me pointing out what I think I see makes me far right I better buy s hitler youth tie and button down shirt and start to goose walk to live upto your expectations son
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Perhaps you don't see as much of the BBC as the rest of us NoF.
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What's left wing about the BBC? Is Doctor Who secretly Communist propaganda or summat?
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Left wing BBC not? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
From what I pick up the bbc swung towards the left side way of thinking sometime time back .
If me pointing out what I think I see makes me far right I better buy s hitler youth tie and button down shirt and start to goose walk to live upto your expectations son
Thought you were doing that stuff already dude from your posts
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Ken Loach has joined a growing chorus of complaints against the BBC for perceived political bias ahead of the upcoming British general election.
The veteran filmmaker and two-time Palme d'Or winner called out the public broadcaster for favoring the Conservative Party in its political coverage and its negative portrayal of Jeremy Corbyn, the left-wing leader of the Labour Party.
"The press and the broadcasters really do everything to denigrate him," he told The Hollywood Reporter. "I think the one thing that emerges is the bias of the press, particularly of the BBC, which is in such a very special position. It's disgusting...unbelievable. And they've really got to be called into question."
Loach added that there was a "built-in sneer" from the BBC against Corbyn, who he has openly declared his support for.
Several BBC reporters have been criticized of late for political coverage that is claimed to have breached the broadcaster's impartiality guidelines.
Political editor Laura Kuenssberg, who has come under repeated fire for her unsympathetic reporting of Corbyn, was found by the BBC Trust to have inaccurately reported the Labour leader's views over shoot-to-kill policies in a report in November 2015. Kuenssberg was also attacked via social media over a tweet about Conservative spending fraud during the election in 2015, labeling the incident — in which more than 20 members of parliament are being investigated by the police — merely as a "mistake."
Likewise Nick Robinson, the former BBC political editor and now a presenter on its influential political radio show, Today, was recently called out for a tweet April 20 in which he said: "no-one should be surprised that @jeremycorbyn is running v the 'Establishment' & is long passion and short on details. Story of his life."
As Loach highlighted to THR, Robinson's outspoken opinion regarding Corbyn could be explained by the BBC presenter's own Conservative political leanings. "He's a Tory! He was chair of the Young Conservatives at Oxford University," he said, claiming that biased coverage negatively affects the chance for real democracy.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ken-loach-criticizes-bbcs-disgusting-political-bias-uk-election-999503
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Left wing BBC not? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
From what I pick up the bbc swung towards the left side way of thinking sometime time back .
If me pointing out what I think I see makes me far right I better buy s hitler youth tie and button down shirt and start to goose walk to live upto your expectations son
Thought you were doing that stuff already dude from your posts
Hello again Jeff . As for my posts I only type what I think or what I think and see and more than likely wrong or miss informed on many accounts fella,as trawling what ever I post with links or FACTS is just not my cup of tea.
Take the 43;000 march figure as many on here are getting their knickers in a twist where I got that figure from.
As for me been left wing or right wing I have to say no to both wings from how I feal.iam just working class going down the middle of the road .
I do know people out here that are right wing and I have drinks with them now and again ,and they know full well not to push any their views or material onto me ,as FV ,music etc etc is the only topics that I will sit and chin wag with them.
I also know a few left wing chaps out here ,and the exact same above goes whenever I have drinks with them.
I have told both sets that whoever Iam drinking with I will watch their backs at that exact time if push should come to punch.
Back in the day when I left school I used to wear doc martins all the time ,and I made a point of having red lacers in them .
I never wore yellow lacers because I am not a puff.
I never wore white lacers because I was not a ?
I wore red lacers because I liked a certian type of music ,and it was only the music I liked not the political stance that came with red lacers in doc martins back then.
I left some homework for you to let me know what white lacers in doc martins meant .
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Hasn't this thread run it's course? There is no real debate just an exchange of comments between two seemingly irreconcilable views.
Let's use forum space with hopefully something positive regarding our team.
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Left wing BBC nof? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
Anyone who doesn't agree with everything he thinks is left wing.
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Left wing BBC nof? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
Anyone who doesn't agree with everything he thinks is left wing.
Maybe Iam a tad harsh throwing whoever into the same pot ,but there is a method in my madness .its only like many on here that say Iam racist due to what I post .so it works both ways in my book .
As for the bbc today ,they defo swing towards the left for certian .
The bbc years back were known to be a well balanced news outlet as you never really doubted their sending.
Today there are untold today who have come up with same thought about the bbc as me.
There are many writes ups out there by whoever from all walks of life asking the same questions of the bbc.
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Left wing BBC nof? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
Anyone who doesn't agree with everything he thinks is left wing.
Maybe Iam a tad harsh throwing whoever into the same pot ,but there is a method in my madness .its only like many on here that say Iam racist due to what I post .so it works both ways in my book .
As for the bbc today ,they defo swing towards the left for certian .
And I suppose you watch loads of BBC news out there in Norway?
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Left wing BBC nof? That only speaks of how far to the right you really are.
Anyone who doesn't agree with everything he thinks is left wing.
Maybe Iam a tad harsh throwing whoever into the same pot ,but there is a method in my madness .its only like many on here that say Iam racist due to what I post .so it works both ways in my book .
As for the bbc today ,they defo swing towards the left for certian .
And I suppose you watch loads of BBC news out there in Norway?
And for someone who takes pride in not looking up anything to back up what they say, I can't help but wonder who these people are he speaks of.
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As for the bbc today ,they defo swing towards the left for certian .
No doubt you can give us some examples to prove this?
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For that, read "their take on things differs to mine".
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As for the bbc today ,they defo swing towards the left for certian .
What like Nick Robinson lead presenter of the radio 4 today programme
Robinson was a founder-member of Macclesfield Young Conservatives (YC) and rose through the ranks, becoming Cheshire YC Chairman (1982–84) and became a key activist in the moderate-controlled North West Area organisation. Philip Pedley, as National YC Chairman, co-opted Robinson onto the YC National Advisory Committee in 1983 and appointed him National Campaign Director of Youth for Multilateral Disarmament. Robinson was elected National Vice Chairman in 1985–87 and succeeded a fellow moderate, Richard Fuller, when he was elected Chairman of the National Young Conservatives on the moderate ticket against strong right-wing opposition (1987–88).[7]
At university he was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association in 1985.[8][9]
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For that, read "their take on things differs to mine".
By basing what they say on real facts instead of what they feel or what their mates have told them, presumably.
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As for the bbc today ,they defo swing towards the left for certian .
What like Nick Robinson lead presenter of the radio 4 today programme
Robinson was a founder-member of Macclesfield Young Conservatives (YC) and rose through the ranks, becoming Cheshire YC Chairman (1982–84) and became a key activist in the moderate-controlled North West Area organisation. Philip Pedley, as National YC Chairman, co-opted Robinson onto the YC National Advisory Committee in 1983 and appointed him National Campaign Director of Youth for Multilateral Disarmament. Robinson was elected National Vice Chairman in 1985–87 and succeeded a fellow moderate, Richard Fuller, when he was elected Chairman of the National Young Conservatives on the moderate ticket against strong right-wing opposition (1987–88).[7]
At university he was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association in 1985.[8][9]
And the Political Editor before him, Andrew Marr, who still presents a major weekly politics programme, was previously the editor of that filthy left-wing rag the Daily Telegraph.
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Lad's an idiot !
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Not forgetting Sarah( picket line breaker )Montague on the main daily BBC political programme
Montague's first job was as a stockbroker for County NatWest and then a Eurobond dealer with NatWest Capital Markets in London. She then went into business in London with the owner of Charles Tyrwhitt Shirts.
Montague began her journalistic career with Channel Television in 1991. She joined Reuters in January 1995 and then became business correspondent for Sky News in January 1996.
She joined the BBC during October 1997 and presented Newsnight and BBC News, before joining the Today news programme on BBC Radio 4 in 2002.[1][3] She presented the very first programme on BBC News 24 with Gavin Esler on 9 November 1997. She has also presented HARDtalk on BBC News.[4] In December 2008, she hosted BBC World's Nobel Minds in the library of the Royal Palace, Stockholm. The 2008 Nobel Prize winners in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Economics, and Literature had a round-table discussion on issues of global concern and their own contributions to the world of knowledge.
On 6 November 2010, Montague broke a strike at the BBC called by the National Union of Journalists. She arrived to present the Today programme at 3:30 am, along with fellow presenter Evan Davis, thereby not technically crossing the picket line.[5] On 15 July 2011, she again broke an NUJ strike by presenting Today with Justin Webb, again by arriving early.[6]
On 10 February 2015, she was awarded the degree of Doctor of Laws honoris causa from the University of Bristol.[7
proper left winger her !
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There are various newspapers out there that have written reports that question the bbcs left wing stance especially in the build up during the last election.
Reports on when whatever questiontimes had a stacked left wing audience etc etc .
There is no smoke without fire .
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I'm sure you'll have no issue providing links then?
I expect they'll be from the likes of the Daily Mail, mind...
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I'm sure you'll have no issue providing links then?
I expect they'll be from the likes of the Daily Mail, mind...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bbc-election-debate-left-wing-bias-jeremy-corbyn-labour-audience-theresa-may-conservatives-a7766311.html
This was a write up from the independent paper redj.make of it what you want fella and there are write ups on bbc left wing claims from the sun ,mail ,express .those papers are not my cup of tea to be honest
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I'm sure you'll have no issue providing links then?
I expect they'll be from the likes of the Daily Mail, mind...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bbc-election-debate-left-wing-bias-jeremy-corbyn-labour-audience-theresa-may-conservatives-a7766311.html
This was a write up from the independent paper redj.make of it what you want fella and there are write ups on bbc left wing claims from the sun ,mail ,express .those papers are not my cup of tea to be honest
The Independent isn't saying the BBC has left-wing bias, it's merely reporting that social media wallies and right-wing berks like Nigel Farage are accusing the BBC of bias. Just like you're doing. So it proves feck all.
Did you bother reading the bit in the article where they also report that the BBC gets accused of right-bias too?
Is your assertion that the BBC 'swings towards the left for certain' really based on stuff as flimsy as this?
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So you honestly think that the bbc are a middle of the road news outlet Glynn ?
Iam going to re write an warning from yesteryears
> the left wing are under your beds >
They are within the bbc ,the Labour Party no longer serve the true working class as they Labour are now infested with left wing minded along with the trade unions.
Look at my mate abbot who is allways on any so called racist issue like a rash,ad she is more racist about white people than any racist out there but she gets away with it.
She certainly don’t stand for the working class which I always thought was where the Labour Party was first formed amongst the working class for the working class.
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So you honestly think that the bbc are a middle of the road news outlet Glynn ?
Iam going to re write an warning from yesteryears
> the left wing are under your beds >
They are within the bbc ,the Labour Party no longer serve the true working class as they Labour are now infested with left wing minded along with the trade unions.
Look at my mate abbot who is allways on any so called racist issue like a rash,ad she is more racist about white people than any racist out there but she gets away with it.
She certainly don’t stand for the working class which I always thought was where the Labour Party was first formed amongst the working class for the working class.
I think the BBC are the most impartial news reporters in Britain. Because they have to be according the Charter that governs their existence.
As for your 'warning', it's nothing more than someone frothing at the mouth. And what on Earth does yet another load of drivel about what Abbott says have anything to do with how the BBC reports the news? Absolutely nothing.
How about you give us a piece of BBC left-wing bias right from the horse's mouth, from the BBC's own web pages, instead of just telling us that random people accuse them of being biased? From what you say, there must be loads of examples just lying around waiting to be linked to. Oh, and the BBC reporting what someone else says isn't evidence of bias, that's just reporting the bias of other people.
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It’s not just me that thinks bbc favour the left wing commerade Glynn
there are some gents and lady’s comments on this link thinking like me over the years .
https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
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So nothing from the BBC's own web pages proving bias at all then? Just more of other people's opinions.
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Reds under the bed being used as an argument in 2017. LO-f**king-L.
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It’s not just me that thinks bbc favour the left wing commerade Glynn
there are some gents and lady’s comments on this link thinking like me over the years .
https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
Yet you ignored what I posted above about the BBC anti-left wing and pro-Tory bias?
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I don't think the BBC show much bias to the left or right per se, but they are definitely anti-Corbyn, which means they naturally go pro-right in some reports
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Must admit, my remark was not so much about the BBC per se, but rather about (what I perceive to be) the shameless bias of Laura Kuenessberg, who TBH does the majority of the political reporting on beeb news.