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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on December 03, 2020, 09:41:24 am
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After our little unbeaten run coming to an end last night this game takes even more importance on to see if we can bounce back quickly and start to put another run of unbeaten games together again, something that successful sides have the knack of doing.
The disappointing thing about the Hull game was our own performance as a team not particularly the result to me and was highlighted even more the way and timing of their winning goal when it looked like we could pinch a point we hardly deserved on the day, and the keeper spilling an easy looking shot which was his first mistake in our colours, one all keepers occasionally make, He looks a good keeper to me and has done well.
Northampton had a great win v Fleetwood and are finding their feet at this level after promotion. Their manager if given time has the knack of building sides hard to beat, do the basics right and are organised. They will also have the advantage of a returning crowd being in tier 2 and the enthusiasm and boost just that will be to the club. Like a lot of teams they have found it harder to get results at home compared with away matches while there has been no crowds allowed and as ever we are the first team that will test whether their home form will improve playing in front of spectators.
Will we try and freshen the side up will be our biggest question? and where our injured players down the road to actually being able to take part in games another important situation?
The last thing to do is chop and change after losing away to the top of the division after a six game unbeaten run, although our consistency of performances both during a game and in different games is a conundrum that wants sorting out.
We have all seen differing swings in form that is a hard one to get our heads around, veering dramatically from looking a very good side to one that looks like the players have never met before, which is baffling especially when happening in single games.
What side would you put out?
Can we bounce back from last nights result?
Have we ever won at Northampton's new ground, myself never seeing us do so on my visits?
Can we at last keep a clean sheet? something we have got out of the habit of doing.
Lots to discuss about this game, please have your say.
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If he’s fit for 90 mins, I would start with both JJ and Fej.
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Question is what other players can we bring in to freshen the side up.
Gomes appears to have had a recurrence of his thigh strain, will know for definite by Friday. Taylor could be available but will we put him straight into the first eleven. So who else can come in and improve the side.
To play Okenabirhie and JJ does one play out wide or do we change the formation. I still believe Sims is better on the left. Our squad is not big enough or good enough to keep freshen up and still expecting good performances. It’s ok that you can use 5 subs but again we haven’t got the players to make a difference. The players appeared to be tired last night and lacked concentration because of that.
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I would change the system until we can get all the players back from injury, when we started to play with two up top we looked far better and gave them problems.
A starting line up of:
Lumley
Halliday Wright Anderson James
Whiteman
Copps Smith Sims
John-Joules Fejeri
This would give us more of an attacking threat and ensure the opposition can’t give a high press.
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Many of us were horrified by Fergie's insistence on playing 3-5-2, and quite rightly so, because we just didn't have the players to do it successfully.
However, if a team can get this system right, they can rip teams apart. For starters, you need 3 very good centre backs, and I believe we have that in Wright, Anderson, and John. You then need 2 energetic and hard working wing backs, and I believe we have that in Halliday and James.
Finally, the system requires 2 up front, and loads of posters on the forum have been screaming for that for ages. I think JJ and Fej together could do that job.
However, I doubt that DM will ever move away from his favoured 4-2-3-1.
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I would change the system until we can get all the players back from injury, when we started to play with two up top we looked far better and gave them problems.
A starting line up of:
Lumley
Halliday Wright Anderson James
Whiteman
Copps Smith Sims
John-Joules Fejeri
This would give us more of an attacking threat and ensure the opposition can’t give a high press.
But wouldn’t changing the system make it plan B?
I’m not sure that Moore would do that.
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Northampton Town have a poor record at home this season.
In their 8 home games in League One, they have lost 4, drawn 2 and won 2 - both victories by a single goal.
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Tuesdays win v Fleetwood was a good victory though the stats showed Fleetwood had most of the possession, let's hope we can find the form to get back on track.
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Could we be really radical and play 4-2-4? Go for the throats of teams, and swamp their defence! It would come as a shock to most teams now.
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The last time we played Northampton away was in the 2017/18 season.
After 5 games they didn't have a single point on the board.
Then the DRFC charity road show rolled into Town ,and even though we kicked off, we were 1 -0 inside 24 seconds.
The game ended up in a predictable 1-0 defeat. :(
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Oh yes...
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The last time we played Northampton away was in the 2017/18 season.
After 5 games they didn't have a single point on the board.
Then the DRFC charity road show rolled into Town ,and even though we kicked off, we were 1 -0 inside 24 seconds.
The game ended up in a predictable 1-0 defeat. :(
Absolutely nothing happened for the rest of that game as well. One of the most boring games I've seen in my life.
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I would change the system until we can get all the players back from injury, when we started to play with two up top we looked far better and gave them problems.
A starting line up of:
Lumley
Halliday Wright Anderson James
Whiteman
Copps Smith Sims
John-Joules Fejeri
This would give us more of an attacking threat and ensure the opposition can’t give a high press.
But wouldn’t changing the system make it plan B?
I’m not sure that Moore would do that.
What other players have we got in our squad now that he could change from the eleven named we have only got Richards,John and Taylor if he is fit.
So what plan B would you use with 11 of those thirteen players.
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No Gomes or Taylor available this weekend according to DM. Amos can be added to the squad. So if we are going to freshen things up or change formation we are limited with choices.
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Janso, apart from Marquis being refused a stone wall penalty and their keeper being on loan and in his first game having an absolute blinder.
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I would change the system until we can get all the players back from injury, when we started to play with two up top we looked far better and gave them problems.
A starting line up of:
Lumley
Halliday Wright Anderson James
Whiteman
Copps Smith Sims
John-Joules Fejeri
This would give us more of an attacking threat and ensure the opposition can’t give a high press.
But wouldn’t changing the system make it plan B?
I’m not sure that Moore would do that.
What other players have we got in our squad now that he could change from the eleven named we have only got Richards,John and Taylor if he is fit.
So what plan B would you use with 11 of those thirteen players.
Steve, I was commenting on the team that DVR had suggested and saying that the formation that he suggested would be a plan B so therefore a change to Moore’s preferred way of setting up.
Why are you asking me what other system I would play.
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Have to agree with hound what other plan B is there? My suggestion although I doubt DM will follow it was to give us a bit more clout than we’ve had
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I would change the system until we can get all the players back from injury, when we started to play with two up top we looked far better and gave them problems.
A starting line up of:
Lumley
Halliday Wright Anderson James
Whiteman
Copps Smith Sims
John-Joules Fejeri
This would give us more of an attacking threat and ensure the opposition can’t give a high press.
But wouldn’t changing the system make it plan B?
I’m not sure that Moore would do that.
What other players have we got in our squad now that he could change from the eleven named we have only got Richards,John and Taylor if he is fit.
So what plan B would you use with 11 of those thirteen players.
Steve, I was commenting on the team that DVR had suggested and saying that the formation that he suggested would be a plan B so therefore a change to Moore’s preferred way of setting up.
Why are you asking me what other system I would play.
Sorry Hound misunderstanding but I would like to see two-up front.
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I would change the system until we can get all the players back from injury, when we started to play with two up top we looked far better and gave them problems.
A starting line up of:
Lumley
Halliday Wright Anderson James
Whiteman
Copps Smith Sims
John-Joules Fejeri
This would give us more of an attacking threat and ensure the opposition can’t give a high press.
But wouldn’t changing the system make it plan B?
I’m not sure that Moore would do that.
What other players have we got in our squad now that he could change from the eleven named we have only got Richards,John and Taylor if he is fit.
So what plan B would you use with 11 of those thirteen players.
Steve, I was commenting on the team that DVR had suggested and saying that the formation that he suggested would be a plan B so therefore a change to Moore’s preferred way of setting up.
Why are you asking me what other system I would play.
Sorry Hound misunderstanding but I would like to see two-up front.
No worries Steve.
I would also like to see us play two up front but I will be surprised if we do it.
That it what I meant by Moore trying a plan B.
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Danny Rose and Joe Mills aside, can’t say I recognise any of their players.
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Danny Rose and Joe Mills aside, can’t say I recognise any of their players.
What about Sheehan and Hoskins.
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Also, Mark Marshall and Nicky Adams.
Actually, not a young side.
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Could win,
if unbalanced might lose...
We have absolutely no rights to expect anything from any of the games we play now..
we are not proving worthy candidates for an automatic place, we are not stamping any kind of authority on a predicted top 6 place,
Jst not feeling this team at the moment....
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Expecting a response after the Hull game by trying to get flowing football going again.
I think DM will play the best XI available to him from the off which could indeed mean a start for both Fejiri and JJ. There should be enough flexibility there along with Simms to be playing a front 3 when in possession.
Once again, our success will depend on how well we move the ball from back to front with Halliday and John/James providing width. How well they penetrate towards Northampton box will be a marker for how the game is going.
Our first touch and pass will have to be better than Wednesday so if we can get back up to our normal standards we should get enough chances to win the game.
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Expecting a response after the Hull game by trying to get flowing football going again.
I think DM will play the best XI available to him from the off which could indeed mean a start for both Fejiri and JJ. There should be enough flexibility there along with Simms to be playing a front 3 when in possession.
Once again, our success will depend on how well we move the ball from back to front with Halliday and John/James providing width. How well they penetrate towards Northampton box will be a marker for how the game is going.
Our first touch and pass will have to be better than Wednesday so if we can get back up to our normal standards we should get enough chances to win the game.
If we can get Halliday and Wright to pass the ball forward and not to Lumley we will have a chance
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Expecting a response after the Hull game by trying to get flowing football going again.
I think DM will play the best XI available to him from the off which could indeed mean a start for both Fejiri and JJ. There should be enough flexibility there along with Simms to be playing a front 3 when in possession.
Once again, our success will depend on how well we move the ball from back to front with Halliday and John/James providing width. How well they penetrate towards Northampton box will be a marker for how the game is going.
Our first touch and pass will have to be better than Wednesday so if we can get back up to our normal standards we should get enough chances to win the game.
If we can get Halliday and Wright to pass the ball forward and not to Lumley we will have a chance
Any reason you chose not to mention Anderson, who's equally guilty of this? I can probably guess, though.
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Well if any body thought the 1st half was bad at Hull then I shudder to think what they thought of that.
We are awful. DM’s tactics of playing centre backs at full back is a disaster.
No width. James and Halliday in midfield. Is DM Fergie in disguise.
What on earth is he doing.
And we are winning. Unbelievable. :zzz:
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How lucky were we with that sending off. It was a 50/50
Terrible pass to Butler. Should have been a yellow. Don’t think it it had been our player we would have been happy.
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Not sure wot you are really expecting playing against a team who just hoof it long ball and pitch is shocking,think we have done ok if just don’t give silly fouls away in 2nd half now,but would bring copps or smith on for Halliday
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How lucky were we with that sending off. It was a 50/50
Terrible pass to Butler. Should have been a yellow. Don’t think it it had been our player we would have been happy.
it was a bad pass but you can’t go into a tackle with your leg raised and studs showing and expect to get off lightly
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How lucky were we with that sending off. It was a 50/50
Terrible pass to Butler. Should have been a yellow. Don’t think it it had been our player we would have been happy.
You joking aren’t you.
It was a shocking challenge.
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Butler off and Smith on for me for starters.
We are playing 4 centre backs. I know they are a physical long ball team but I don’t understand these tactics.
What has happened to the team that destroyed, Ipswich and Bristol Rovers.
Beat Charlton, Lincoln, Portsmouth & Blackpool
Northampton are down to 10 men. We need to impose ourselves with width.
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Well if any body thought the 1st half was bad at Hull then I shudder to think what they thought of that.
We are awful. DM’s tactics of playing centre backs at full back is a disaster.
No width. James and Halliday in midfield. Is DM Fergie in disguise.
What on earth is he doing.
And we are winning. Unbelievable. :zzz:
Hypocrisy of it's highest nature. You literally spent Wednesday night getting upset about negative posts and do this. I don't know if you are really stupid or a WUM.
Apart from that it was a very hard watch again
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Butler off and Smith on for me for starters.
We are playing 4 centre backs. I know they are a physical long ball team but I don’t understand these tactics.
What has happened to the team that destroyed, Ipswich and Bristol Rovers.
Beat Charlton, Lincoln, Portsmouth & Blackpool
Northampton are down to 10 men. We need to impose ourselves with width.
First Taylor and Gomes are not available secondly we are playing a robust side. Third we now have a centre forward who is better than Okenabirhie. He had to rest Smith and Okenabirhie becomes because both looked tired on Wednesday. Second half he’s brought them on and Okenabirhie as shown nothing at this point.
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How lucky were we with that sending off. It was a 50/50
Terrible pass to Butler. Should have been a yellow. Don’t think it it had been our player we would have been happy.
It was a hospital pass but accompanied by a hospital tackle. You can’t make a challenge like that without expecting to be punished.
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It was a bad tackle. Probably a red, but have seen lot worse. Typical of Butler to just jog off something like that though. Thought he did well today.
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
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Performances questionable. Job done. Full week of training to work on things now will hopefully see improvement next week.
Job done against a side I expect will go down
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Short passing as in 5 aside gets you out of the habit of looking beyond the nearest teammate by the looks of it .
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Well if any body thought the 1st half was bad at Hull then I shudder to think what they thought of that.
We are awful. DM’s tactics of playing centre backs at full back is a disaster.
No width. James and Halliday in midfield. Is DM Fergie in disguise.
What on earth is he doing.
And we are winning. Unbelievable. :zzz:
Hypocrisy of it's highest nature. You literally spent Wednesday night getting upset about negative posts and do this. I don't know if you are really stupid or a WUM.
Apart from that it was a very hard watch again
Padge my friend. Posting in peace ok.
Hull are top and the best team in the league and displays a job on us 1st half.
Northampton are a bottom 7/8 team in this league at best. They were down riot 10 men after 19 mins.
We looked completely clueless. No width, playing with 6 defenders.
Yes DM changed it at H/T and we improved. But it couldn’t get worse. We still didn’t get Simms running down the right wing and stretching them. We tried to go through the middle far too often.
We could have had a hat full today if we had showed more ambition.
Any way 3 good points away from home and would have been happy with 2-0 and clean sheet before game.
Strange though I have a little moan and get slaughtered.
Where is the hypocrisy there then. I think a moan was justified today. Against Hull we were up against a very good side. Just my opinion Padge. :)
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
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Hard to draw many conclusions from that game given the sending off. It wasn’t pretty before then mind. Thought Butler looked solid and the keeper also. John-Jules is a top player and should clearly start. Reece James far more effective as a left back. Some great play by him.
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Well if any body thought the 1st half was bad at Hull then I shudder to think what they thought of that.
We are awful. DM’s tactics of playing centre backs at full back is a disaster.
No width. James and Halliday in midfield. Is DM Fergie in disguise.
What on earth is he doing.
And we are winning. Unbelievable. :zzz:
Hypocrisy of it's highest nature. You literally spent Wednesday night getting upset about negative posts and do this. I don't know if you are really stupid or a WUM.
Apart from that it was a very hard watch again
Padge my friend. Posting in peace ok.
Hull are top and the best team in the league and displays a job on us 1st half.
Northampton are a bottom 7/8 team in this league at best. They were down riot 10 men after 19 mins.
We looked completely clueless. No width, playing with 6 defenders.
Yes DM changed it at H/T and we improved. But it couldn’t get worse. We still didn’t get Simms running down the right wing and stretching them. We tried to go through the middle far too often.
We could have had a hat full today if we had showed more ambition.
Any way 3 good points away from home and would have been happy with 2-0 and clean sheet before game.
Strange though I have a little moan and get slaughtered.
Where is the hypocrisy there then. I think a moan was justified today. Against Hull we were up against a very good side. Just my opinion Padge. :)
Hull can be as good as they like, if we can't string a pass together we're always going to have played shite.
Why is it fine for no one but you to be critical?
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Hard to draw many conclusions from that game given the sending off. It wasn’t pretty before then mind. Thought Butler looked solid and the keeper also. John-Jules is a top player and should clearly start. Reece James far more effective as a left back. Some great play by him.
Hard to disagree with any of that.
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3 points. Hopefully we can go a full week without any moaning.
There are other clubs in this league who do have summat to moan about!
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It is strange isn’t it. I am the only one having a moan today after a poor performance.
That is because we Won. Results business.
If we had failed to win that match today there would be 9/10 people on here wanting DM sacked tonight. That’s how poor we were 1st half. 25 mins against 10 men.
IMO of course. Others welcome.
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Camps, northampton are a really poor team, even when they had eleven men on the pitch.
People would have been in order to have a pop if we hadnt won that game.
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Ask Sunderland and Posh fans, fed up of playing well and getting beat by the likes of......
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It is strange isn’t it. I am the only one having a moan today after a poor performance.
That is because we Won. Results business.
If we had failed to win that match today there would be 9/10 people on here wanting DM sacked tonight. That’s how poor we were 1st half. 25 mins against 10 men.
IMO of course. Others welcome.
He had to rest Smith and Okenabirhie so who else could he have started. Campsall it wasn’t good but I’m a realistic supporter to be really good we need our best eleven playing unfortunately over the last few weeks we haven’t had them available. So DM has to chop and change.
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Well if any body thought the 1st half was bad at Hull then I shudder to think what they thought of that.
We are awful. DM’s tactics of playing centre backs at full back is a disaster.
No width. James and Halliday in midfield. Is DM Fergie in disguise.
What on earth is he doing.
And we are winning. Unbelievable. :zzz:
Hypocrisy of it's highest nature. You literally spent Wednesday night getting upset about negative posts and do this. I don't know if you are really stupid or a WUM.
Apart from that it was a very hard watch again
Padge my friend. Posting in peace ok.
Hull are top and the best team in the league and displays a job on us 1st half.
Northampton are a bottom 7/8 team in this league at best. They were down riot 10 men after 19 mins.
We looked completely clueless. No width, playing with 6 defenders.
Yes DM changed it at H/T and we improved. But it couldn’t get worse. We still didn’t get Simms running down the right wing and stretching them. We tried to go through the middle far too often.
We could have had a hat full today if we had showed more ambition.
Any way 3 good points away from home and would have been happy with 2-0 and clean sheet before game.
Strange though I have a little moan and get slaughtered.
Where is the hypocrisy there then. I think a moan was justified today. Against Hull we were up against a very good side. Just my opinion Padge. :)
Hull can be as good as they like, if we can't string a pass together we're always going to have played shite.
Why is it fine for no one but you to be critical?
When did I say that Janso? I am allowed to disagree with some of the criticism though am I not.
I have never ever said anyone else can’t criticise.
If I have then show me where I said you are not allowed. If I have I will hold my hands up.
It’s a forum for opinions. That’s what I give. Unlike the abuse that’s being dished out by some on this forum.
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How lucky were we with that sending off. It was a 50/50
Terrible pass to Butler. Should have been a yellow. Don’t think it it had been our player we would have been happy.
Need to see it again hound. Just 1st impressions. The Rovers commentator said he thought it was harsh on 1st seeing it.
Any way I am not complaining. The way we started the match we may have lost against 11 men.
You joking aren’t you.
It was a shocking challenge.
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Fantastic result, 3 points, a clean sheet and well placed now in the league with games in hand.
However, that was 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back. It was dreadful to watch. I'm convinced DM picks the team by closing his eyes and sticking a pin up and down the squad list.
My MOM was Andy Butler. At 37 years old and his first game of the season, that says it all.
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Well if any body thought the 1st half was bad at Hull then I shudder to think what they thought of that.
We are awful. DM’s tactics of playing centre backs at full back is a disaster.
No width. James and Halliday in midfield. Is DM Fergie in disguise.
What on earth is he doing.
And we are winning. Unbelievable. :zzz:
Hypocrisy of it's highest nature. You literally spent Wednesday night getting upset about negative posts and do this. I don't know if you are really stupid or a WUM.
Apart from that it was a very hard watch again
Padge my friend. Posting in peace ok.
Hull are top and the best team in the league and displays a job on us 1st half.
Northampton are a bottom 7/8 team in this league at best. They were down riot 10 men after 19 mins.
We looked completely clueless. No width, playing with 6 defenders.
Yes DM changed it at H/T and we improved. But it couldn’t get worse. We still didn’t get Simms running down the right wing and stretching them. We tried to go through the middle far too often.
We could have had a hat full today if we had showed more ambition.
Any way 3 good points away from home and would have been happy with 2-0 and clean sheet before game.
Strange though I have a little moan and get slaughtered.
Where is the hypocrisy there then. I think a moan was justified today. Against Hull we were up against a very good side. Just my opinion Padge. :)
Hull can be as good as they like, if we can't string a pass together we're always going to have played shite.
Why is it fine for no one but you to be critical?
When did I say that Janso? I am allowed to disagree with some of the criticism though am I not.
I have never ever said anyone else can’t criticise.
If I have then show me where I said you are not allowed. If I have I will hold my hands up.
It’s a forum for opinions. That’s what I give. Unlike the abuse that’s being dished out by some on this forum.
Because you cry when anyone disagrees with you and go on massive rants.
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
Then I suggest you watch it again.
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It is strange isn’t it. I am the only one having a moan today after a poor performance.
That is because we Won. Results business.
If we had failed to win that match today there would be 9/10 people on here wanting DM sacked tonight. That’s how poor we were 1st half. 25 mins against 10 men.
IMO of course. Others welcome.
Totally agree Campsall. Don't go on the Lucky Pint with that opinion though. Amazing how many on there thought we played well today.
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I thought 1st half was as poor as the Hull 1 but in the 2nd half we looked ok pretty much controlled the game without the need to do much
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
Then I suggest you watch it again.
I saw it live and saw the replay stocks.
Clearly a high and dangerous challenge.
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Camps, northampton are a really poor team, even when they had eleven men on the pitch.
People would have been in order to have a pop if we hadnt won that game.
Yes they would. I am having a pop and we won.
The overreaction on here though would have been something else altogether.
People will always put up with a poor performance when you win.
It just proves the result is all anyone really cares about not the performance.
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When we have the best eleven players in a balanced team available and we play poor then I’ll say so but we haven’t got them yet. Any body who think we have are deluded.
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Winning when you play poorly is the sign of a good team but normally a good team will play well most of the time. We aren't just have a bad game here or there it's every game at the moment. Getting results like today is great but there needs to be performances around the corner or else when we do lose a few it'll spiral
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
Then I suggest you watch it again.
I saw it live and saw the replay stocks.
Clearly a high and dangerous challenge.
One of the most blatant and clear red cards I’ve seen in a while! I agree that his intent may well have been to go for the ball, it was reckless, dangerous and potentially career ending. I’m just glad AB was ok afterwards.
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This is my best eleven plus six good substitutes when DM can have those 17 players available we will see how we play.
Lumley
Halliday Wright. Anderson. James
Whiteman
Smith. Richards
Taylor. John Jules. Sims
Jones Butler John. Gomes Coppinger Okenabirhie add one more of your choice.
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A win is a win, the team selection strange, not the first time we have started a game with players playing out of position, or should I sat a lot of us supporters do.
But it worked again not for the first time this season, and not always the best team win things, just find a way to do so As Argentina did twice in world cups and Germany have in the past. Just find a way to win.
As the stats show we were by far the best team today, and deserved to win only their player can be blamed for being sent off although the short hospital pass to Butler typified our play in most of the first half.
You could look at it that we made a team that earlier in the week beat Fleetwood look poor.
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Camps, northampton are a really poor team, even when they had eleven men on the pitch.
People would have been in order to have a pop if we hadnt won that game.
Yes they would. I am having a pop and we won.
The overreaction on here though would have been something else altogether.
People will always put up with a poor performance when you win.
It just proves the result is all anyone really cares about not the performance.
This
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I love to be entertained when I watch the football.. I can forgive my team losing if they have given everything but get beat by a better side - and I also know that sometimes we will be below par.
But results do matter, more so when I couldn’t watch anyway.!
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EFL League One 2020-21
GW16 Top Teams
Completed passes
1 Ipswich Town 511 #ITFC
2 Doncaster Rovers 484 #DRFC
3 Sunderland 474 #SAFC
4 Crewe Alexandra 465 #CreweAlex
5 Lincoln City 428 #Imps
6 Bristol Rovers 422 #BRFC
7 Milton Keynes Dons 376 #MKDons
8 Rochdale 360 #Rochdale
Yes but 300 of those were back to the keeper and 100 between Wright and Anderson ;) ;) :chair: :chair:
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A win is a win, the team selection strange, not the first time we have started a game with players playing out of position, or should I sat a lot of us supporters do.
But it worked again not for the first time this season, and not always the best team win things, just find a way to do so As Argentina did twice in world cups and Germany have in the past. Just find a way to win.
As the stats show we were by far the best team today, and deserved to win only their player can be blamed for being sent off although the short hospital pass to Butler typified our play in most of the first half.
You could look at it that we made a team that earlier in the week beat Fleetwood.
Fleetwood must have been poor on Tuesday. Northampton will struggle to stay in this league the way they play. Keith Curle has never really changed his style.
Job done Brian as you say now next Saturday let’s please beat that 2nd worst bogey team we have in the entire EFL and put one over Mr Evans into the bargain.
They have just picked up again with a couple of wins after a poor run of results.
No easy games. Only on paper, never in reality.
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A win is a win, the team selection strange, not the first time we have started a game with players playing out of position, or should I sat a lot of us supporters do.
But it worked again not for the first time this season, and not always the best team win things, just find a way to do so As Argentina did twice in world cups and Germany have in the past. Just find a way to win.
As the stats show we were by far the best team today, and deserved to win only their player can be blamed for being sent off although the short hospital pass to Butler typified our play in most of the first half.
You could look at it that we made a team that earlier in the week beat Fleetwood.
Fleetwood must have been poor on Tuesday. Northampton will struggle to stay in this league the way they play. Keith Curle has never really changed his style.
Job done Brian as you say now next Saturday let’s please beat that 2nd worst bogey team we have in the entire EFL and put one over Mr Evans into the bargain.
They have just picked up again with a couple of wins after a poor run of results.
No easy games. Only on paper, never in reality.
fleetwood had about 20 odd shots I think against 4 and 70 odd percent possession just couldn’t score
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Fleetwood had about the same possession stats as us, they just did nothing with the ball, while we got two goals.
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EFL League One 2020-21
GW16 Top Teams
Completed passes
1 Ipswich Town 511 #ITFC
2 Doncaster Rovers 484 #DRFC
3 Sunderland 474 #SAFC
4 Crewe Alexandra 465 #CreweAlex
5 Lincoln City 428 #Imps
6 Bristol Rovers 422 #BRFC
7 Milton Keynes Dons 376 #MKDons
8 Rochdale 360 #Rochdale
It's obvious why we're next to the top there Steve. It's all the passing around at the back that we do.
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Did you mean passing, Steve, or was it a typo? :woot: :woot:
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EFL League One 2020-21
GW16 Top Teams
Completed passes
1 Ipswich Town 511 #ITFC
2 Doncaster Rovers 484 #DRFC
3 Sunderland 474 #SAFC
4 Crewe Alexandra 465 #CreweAlex
5 Lincoln City 428 #Imps
6 Bristol Rovers 422 #BRFC
7 Milton Keynes Dons 376 #MKDons
8 Rochdale 360 #Rochdale
It's obvious why we're next to the top there Steve. It's all the passing around at the back that we do.
That sounds right. At one point well into the first half today we were on 74% possession.
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Did you mean passing, Steve, or was it a typo? :woot: :woot:
Sorry Bob. P*ssing.
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I really don't get some of the posts on this thread.
For 70 minutes we had to play a ten man pack defence that didn't press past the 40 yard line. The aim of the game was patient possession, don't make a mistake and work to make openings. Guess what, we did it and scored two goals to win the game.
Any notion of seeing us play expansive, great football went out the window when McWilliams elected to lunge in on Butler.
And we played far better than in the first half against Hull. Anyone thinking otherwise must have forgotten Wednesday night rather quickly.
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I really don't get some of the posts on this thread.
For 70 minutes we had to play a ten man pack defence that didn't press past the 40 yard line. The aim of the game was patient possession, don't make a mistake and work to make openings. Guess what, we did it and scored two goals to win the game.
Any notion of seeing us play expansive, great football went out the window when McWilliams elected to lunge in on Butler.
And we played far better than in the first half against Hull. Anyone thinking otherwise must have forgotten Wednesday night rather quickly.
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And that’s another reason big Dave went with that line up knew they would really only be dangerous on set plays and on a shocking pitch where very hard to play decent passing football
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Winning when you play poorly is the sign of a good team but normally a good team will play well most of the time. We aren't just have a bad game here or there it's every game at the moment. Getting results like today is great but there needs to be performances around the corner or else when we do lose a few it'll spiral
That.
Hopefully though we will start to pull some better performances together with players coming back from injury to give others a rest
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I may be a little late with this comment, but a team should play to its strengths and a manager should make the best use of his player’s talents, not force them into playing in a closely prescribed way.
Most of the players he has recruited played well when they first came – Sims was the prime example – and seem to have been forced into a system which doesn’t suit them. We had an exhibition of the exuberance of youth at Charlton. 2 months indoctrination into the current system has seen it all drained away.
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
Then I suggest you watch it again.
I saw it live and saw the replay stocks.
Clearly a high and dangerous challenge.
I can see how you would see it that way. If it was the other way round id be disappointed. Its "One of them" isnt it.
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
Then I suggest you watch it again.
I saw it live and saw the replay stocks.
Clearly a high and dangerous challenge.
One of the most blatant and clear red cards I’ve seen in a while! I agree that his intent may well have been to go for the ball, it was reckless, dangerous and potentially career ending. I’m just glad AB was ok afterwards.
To say the challenge is "career ending" to me personally is foolish. Ill watch it again and apologise if im wrong but the highlight after the card he did lunge into Buts but it was 1 foot and wasnt high at all. Maybe saw it wrong as id had a couple of beers mind. Ill watch it again.
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The referee saw the challenge and sent player off what’s the debate about. He would have sent off 10/10 in the premier league. Get over it.
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Thought the red card in todays game was a red. In reality its was a harsh yellow in my opinion. It was 1 foot, wasnt high and made a desperate attempt for the ball. Performance wise....... we got the job done that is all i will say.
Mmm, it looked high to me.
The lads studs were into ABs shin.
Then I suggest you watch it again.
I saw it live and saw the replay stocks.
Clearly a high and dangerous challenge.
One of the most blatant and clear red cards I’ve seen in a while! I agree that his intent may well have been to go for the ball, it was reckless, dangerous and potentially career ending. I’m just glad AB was ok afterwards.
To say the challenge is "career ending" to me personally is foolish. Ill watch it again and apologise if im wrong but the highlight after the card he did lunge into Buts but it was 1 foot and wasnt high at all. Maybe saw it wrong as id had a couple of beers mind. Ill watch it again.
Hey Stocks, if you are unsure what you saw you are still better than the bbc reporter on their website who says that the challenge was on Reece James.
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Having watched it back several times its a booking at best for me. If you think thats a challenge made with intent then i cant disagree with you more. If thats Fej or JJ and he doesnt make the exact same tackle id be questioning his commitment.
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Having watched it back several times its a booking at best for me. If you think thats a challenge made with intent then i cant disagree with you more. If thats Fej or JJ and he doesnt make the exact same tackle id be questioning his commitment.
Have you been living under a rock for the past 15/20 years? You can’t make a challenge like that in football anymore. He’s gone in after the ball is well gone with his studs up. Red all day long.
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With his studs up and his foot off the ground too.
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Just paused it on the challenge and yes it is a red i got it wrong. It doesnt look that high in real time.
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01642602020
Specsavers. Stockton on Tees.
:thumbsup: ;)
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01642602020
Specsavers. Stockton on Tees.
:thumbsup: ;)
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I don't think Stocks Army is from up here
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01642602020
Specsavers. Stockton on Tees.
:thumbsup: ;)
Hound
I don't think Stocks Army is from up here
He might want to drive up that way to make sure his eyes are good enough to drive though. :whistle:
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01642602020
Specsavers. Stockton on Tees.
:thumbsup: ;)
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I don't think Stocks Army is from up here
He might want to drive up that way to make sure his eyes are good enough to drive though. :whistle:
Thought that was Barnard Castle. Just a bit further up.
Oh sorry that is Covid. :chair:
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Crystal Palace are doing to WBA what I hoped we would do 2nd half to Northampton.
Maybe I am just a greedy so & so. But I feel it was a lost opportunity to improve the goal difference further.
Yes I am a hard man to please this weekend.
Think we need to develop a ruthless streak but Suppose i need to accept this is a young team and 5/6 of our players are getting their 1st taste of League Football this season.
The main thing is we got the 3 points against an awkward team to play against on the worst playing surface i have seen for some time.
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We need to have that ruthless streak more when a game is tight and either grab a winner or hold what we have. It would have come in handy at Hull.
We did more than enough yesterday for the three points, and got back on a winning track after a late disappointment Wednesday, which was exactly what was needed and something now to build on.
Another little run of good results can now be our objective and build momentum and pressure on the teams above us.
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Let's not forget it would have been 3-0 also if not for the penalty save, we were very unlucky not to turn the chance in that led to the handball for that.
Hardly a disappointment, it was our most comfortable win of the season in some respects, save for maybe the Bristol Rovers game.
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I agree RA, we dominated the game and managed all the major moments in the game, and took the chance to rebuild confidence. The sign of a team that can win games when not always at the top of their form.
What's not to like?