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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on December 26, 2022, 05:01:29 pm
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Appointed with a record of 9 games in charge of a mens first team side, it shows as well, why he was ever appointed is a mystery, if it is on Copps head then I’m afraid we have to question Copps judgment as well, that is not acceptable on Stainy Welfare on a Sunday never mind L2
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At least give him a window lads.
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How quickly would you have fired SOD?
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I'm struggling to think what a manager can do when he inherits a group of players that shit themselves when opponents get in their faces, and allow opponent to glide past them in the box as though our players are pulling balls and chains.
Let's face it, this is the worst group of players we've had since 97/98. I wouldn't shed a tear over any one of them leaving.
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At least give him a window lads.
What … to jump out of and escape? :)
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At least give him a window lads.
Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?
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Rovers really need an experienced manager at this level, not a newly qualified coach.
The job is to set up with a system suited to the players we have, not try to hammer square pegs into round holes by expecting them to play tippy tappy in our own box.
We have to go 442 with a second striker with Miller.
If DS can't see his plan will never work with this group, I don't know what to say.
Confidence is massive in football, but the players have no belief that they can do what the boss expects.
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At least give him a window lads.
Serious question; what do you think a transfer window will do for him and the club?
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At least give him a window lads.
Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?
I’m sick to death of hearing the give him a window excuse.
Nothing changes afterwards anyway.
It’s been the same for far too long now.
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Iv said before that it seems the longer he has between games, the worse we are.
Another piece of evidence today.
I have no idea what he’s trying to do with this group of players.
f**k knows what he’s told Anderson to do every time he gets the ball in space.
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Iv said before that it seems the longer he has between games, the worse we are.
Another piece of evidence today.
I have no idea what he’s trying to do with this group of players.
f**k knows what he’s told Anderson to do every time he gets the ball in space.
Looked like we were making progress first few games but going backwards now
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Rovers really need an experienced manager at this level, not a newly qualified coach.
The job is to set up with a system suited to the players we have, not try to hammer square pegs into round holes by expecting them to play tippy tappy in our own box.
We have to go 442 with a second striker with Miller.
If DS can't see his plan will never work with this group, I don't know what to say.
Confidence is massive in football, but the players have no belief that they can do what the boss expects.
Unless the owners change their thinking. This club is in trouble... big trouble.
The owners are inept!!
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Appointed with a record of 9 games in charge of a mens first team side, it shows as well, why he was ever appointed is a mystery, if it is on Copps head then I’m afraid we have to question Copps judgment as well, that is not acceptable on Stainy Welfare on a Sunday never mind L2
What qualities did Copps have to be put in that position??
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Whether you think Schofield can or cannot make progress with a window, it is true that we have had absolutely appalling recruitment for the last two years. We’ve spent all this money and don’t really have a single saleable asset.
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At least give him a window lads.
Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?
I’m sick to death of hearing the give him a window excuse.
Nothing changes afterwards anyway.
It’s been the same for far too long now.
it’ll be “he needs a pre-season with the lads” next.
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Rovers really need an experienced manager at this level, not a newly qualified coach.
The job is to set up with a system suited to the players we have, not try to hammer square pegs into round holes by expecting them to play tippy tappy in our own box.
We have to go 442 with a second striker with Miller.
If DS can't see his plan will never work with this group, I don't know what to say.
Confidence is massive in football, but the players have no belief that they can do what the boss expects.
Unless the owners change their thinking. This club is in trouble... big trouble.
The owners are inept!!
Been saying that for 2 years at least. Those with Rose tinted glasses on here might start to wake up and smell the coffee. Zero investment leading to the death by a thousand cuts.. seem to recall some on here a year ago saying relegation to league Two was OK as we would bounceback with a promotion push.. but its all OK we have a club.. we always have had a club, but even.in the dark days when we admitted we were crap and had 4 or 6 professionals and semi pros at least we tried to attack.. now it's keep ball and time wasting.. another game where we hardly threatened their goal.or had a shot on target with players playing half hearted especially second half. Dire.
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Whether you think Schofield can or cannot make progress with a window, it is true that we have had absolutely appalling recruitment for the last two years. We’ve spent all this money and don’t really have a single saleable asset.
Think we could get money for Miller, having a good season feeding off scraps. Knoyle would command a fee if his contract wasn't down to the last 6 months.
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Blunt has done to the Rovers what the Tories have done to the NHS over the last 12 years. Austerity.
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I really don't see it as a lack of resources, we are better funded than many in L2.
It is about how we have spent that resource......does anyone think that we added value in the January transfer window last year?
My worry is more poor recruitment, and being restricted by servicing those contracts.
That is why we need a manager with experience, who knows the league.
DS had one task when taking over, stabilise and find a system to suit the players we have.
Getting them to play to a plan beyond their capability is just stupid.
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Appointed with a record of 9 games in charge of a mens first team side, it shows as well, why he was ever appointed is a mystery, if it is on Copps head then I’m afraid we have to question Copps judgment as well, that is not acceptable on Stainy Welfare on a Sunday never mind L2
I think Copps was Schmoozed into believing DS was worth a punt by Leigh Bromby at Huddersfield Town.
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The worrying thing is as someone said on a different post where talking to players about extending contracts
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Iv said before that it seems the longer he has between games, the worse we are.
Another piece of evidence today.
I have no idea what he’s trying to do with this group of players.
f**k knows what he’s told Anderson to do every time he gets the ball in space.
Looked like we were making progress first few games but going backwards now
Oh we are going backwards alright. Every fkin pass is going backwards.
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I am sure when Schofield was appointed he was going to have an experienced assistant along side him. Whatever happened to that? We are know reaping the results if not appointing one.
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I really don't see it as a lack of resources, we are better funded than many in L2.
It is about how we have spent that resource......does anyone think that we added value in the January transfer window last year?
My worry is more poor recruitment, and being restricted by servicing those contracts.
That is why we need a manager with experience, who knows the league.
DS had one task when taking over, stabilise and find a system to suit the players we have.
Getting them to play to a plan beyond their capability is just stupid.
^ this 100%
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You can question schofields team selection, but he can only select a team from a poor pool of players, the group are far too inconsistent. Not one of them turned up today.
Let’s hope we can offload 4/5 in jan and we need to add 6/7 to get the team going.
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You can question schofields team selection, but he can only select a team from a poor pool of players, the group are far too inconsistent. Not one of them turned up today.
Let’s hope we can offload 4/5 in jan and we need to add 6/7 to get the team going.
Hes clueless, even with the players he has to choose from. Knoyle was getting into a good bit of form and providing assists and looking our main threat for creating goals. What does he do puts him to centre back.
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He has converted McSheffery’s squad who seemed to achieve enough cohesion to win games into a bunch of individuals who look as though they do not know what to do with the ball. All I can think of is that he has utterly confused them with is coaching.
As well as getting fewer ppg than McSheffery with the same players Schofield’s results are getting steadily worse. How can people defend him?
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Sorry to say this but it's looking like another catastrophic failure in terms of manager recruitment. WE NEED AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER!!!
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We can and should question his team selections though. Rowe at centre back (madness), Knoyle (one of the very best attacking right backs in the league) at Centre Back, Faulkner (our best performing centre half this season - dropped from the squad and sent out on loan) Miller always playing without support. Always playing with 5 at the back is ultra negative and his interviews offer nothing but excuses for the players and doesn't hold them to a standard in public.
A terrible appointment thus far. DS needs to hold himself accountable too. He can always call Lee Carsley for advice I suppose.
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You can question schofields team selection, but he can only select a team from a poor pool of players, the group are far too inconsistent. Not one of them turned up today.
Let’s hope we can offload 4/5 in jan and we need to add 6/7 to get the team going.
Hes clueless, even with the players he has to choose from. Knoyle was getting into a good bit of form and providing assists and looking our main threat for creating goals. What does he do puts him to centre back.
Knoyle has been our most potent attacking player this season.
Crazy to put him in the back line.
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We can and should question his team selections though. Rowe at centre back (madness), Knoyle (one of the very best attacking right backs in the league) at Centre Back, Faulkner (our best performing centre half this season - dropped from the squad and sent out on loan) Miller always playing without support. Always playing with 5 at the back is ultra negative and his interviews offer nothing but excuses for the players and doesn't hold them to a standard in public.
A terrible appointment thus far. DS needs to hold himself accountable too. He can always call Lee Carsley for advice I suppose.
Great post.
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Schofield says: "I don’t think we implemented our game plan today, part of that was credit to Tranmere in terms of their structure and formation.“
This implies a doubt about whether the plan was put into operation, yet it was blindingly obvious that whatever plan he had was an utter failure.
Unless he recognises the true extent of his shortcomings how can he learn from this?
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We can and should question his team selections though. Rowe at centre back (madness), Knoyle (one of the very best attacking right backs in the league) at Centre Back, Faulkner (our best performing centre half this season - dropped from the squad and sent out on loan) Miller always playing without support. Always playing with 5 at the back is ultra negative and his interviews offer nothing but excuses for the players and doesn't hold them to a standard in public.
A terrible appointment thus far. DS needs to hold himself accountable too. He can always call Lee Carsley for advice I suppose.
Top post.
Of course DS is not at fault for the poor bunch of players we've got who he inherited; he isn't primarily responsible either for Rovers' continuing demise - that's the fault of those continually appointing inexperienced managers.
He's young, inexperienced, unproven and has been provided no experienced support from within the club
However he is making fundamental errors that need pointing out and are contributing significantly to Rovers poor performances - I agree with all the above.
When the opposition fans are openly mocking your tactical approach (ironic cheering as Rovers passed the ball slowly between keeper and centre back today) then you know you're in serious trouble!
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Then really the person pointing out the fundamental errors should be manager I would think, not a dig at you Branton, a manager should really be able to see fundamental errors.
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Schofield says: "I don’t think we implemented our game plan today, part of that was credit to Tranmere in terms of their structure and formation.“
This implies a doubt about whether the plan was put into operation, yet it was blindingly obvious that whatever plan he had was an utter failure.
Unless he recognises the true extent of his shortcomings how can he learn from this?
The whole idea of playing out from the back is that when the opponent presses the back line , with a few neat passes and a bit of one touch football you can expose them at the other end of the pitch. Unfortunatley :
A) We're not Barcelona in their pomp
B) Tranmere were wise to our game plan and didn't press us , they just sat in their half and let Mitchell and Anderson have the ball.
It was blindingley obvious after 30mins a change of tact was needed but we don't have the midfield personell to affect games.
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For large parts of the game the midfield made no runs in fact no movement they just stood there, giving Clayton and Anderson no one to pass to
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That performance today was the sort that get managers the sack. Now I’m not for a moment suggesting that we’re at or anywhere near that point but Schofield has to show that it was a one off. What’s a bit scary is that I said something similar after the Kings Lynn game…
It’s with him.
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That performance today was the sort that get managers the sack. Now I’m not for a moment suggesting that we’re at or anywhere near that point but Schofield has to show that it was a one off. What’s a bit scary is that I said something similar after the Kings Lynn game…
It’s with him.
We are a L2 side and an average one at that . Absolutely no qualities either in defence , midfield or attack ( Miller) aside . Building a quality side takes time and a few transfer windows . But also takes vision and honesty when things are going bad . Too many managers talk up their job and leave out then the real problems of the support required from the board to see the job through . If all that he’s being asked is that we try and compete on minimal funds and hope for results , then it’s ground hog day . All I know is that we are being fed dross covered in BS !
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Schofield is changing team personnel, positions and formations faster than I am having hot dinners.
The players look totally confused as to what the the game plan is.
Why has he completely changed what we did at Grimsby. Why why oh why. That really is a mystery.
Playing Knoyle as a centre back is utterly ludicrous. Not starting Hurst is barmy.
Taylor looks finished. Clayton not good enough any more. What was Anderson doing today. Was he told to pass it back to Mitchell 50 times.
That was embarrassing to watch.
Scofield needs to get this sorted because today was not acceptable.
If that’s how he wants us to play we will be playing National league football maybe not next season but quite possibly the one after.
That was a complete shambles from the 4th min to the 94th min.
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Schofield is changing team personnel, positions and formations faster than I am having hot dinners.
The players look totally confused as to what the the game plan is.
Why has he completely changed what we did at Grimsby. Why why oh why. That really is a mystery.
Playing Knoyle as a centre back is utterly ludicrous. Not starting Hurst is barmy.
Taylor looks finished. Clayton not good enough any more. What was Anderson doing today. Was he told to pass it back to Mitchell 50 times.
That was embarrassing to watch.
Scofield needs to get this sorted because today was not acceptable.
If that’s how he wants us to play we will be playing National league football maybe not next season but quite possibly the one after.
That was a complete shambles from the 4th min to the 94th min.
Not playing Hurst is criminal, don't get me wrong he's far from the finished article but at least he's got skill , enthusiasm & endeavor . I'd start him , Maxwell & Faulkner everytime over some of this shower as we need to look to the future not the past. Think he could quite easily operate in the hole behind Miller
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Max Woltman left out the squad today - no explanation as to why and no further questioning on the post game interview! Typical.
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Did we get an explanation about Rowe?
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Did we get an explanation about Rowe?
Back spasm in training.
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Just watching the goals again, our defending down the left was horrific.
First goal, there are ameoba in the Martian ice caps who spotted the overlap by the full back. Long saw it and pointed to Maxwell to go with him. Maxwell took half a step then stopped, ball-watching. Full back was clear away when the ball was slipped through to him.
Second goal, their player ghosted through a set of static players. Hurst had to get close and give him a physical challenge, but it was like going past cones.
Thirds one, Hurst is at fault again. When the ball went out to the full back, Hurst didn't set him any sort of challenge. He neither got close and hit him, nor set himself up to cover space. He ambled over, left the full back time to choose what he wanted to do, never got within 2 yards, then was slow to respond when the full back did the obvious thing and pushed the ball past him. The defending of the cross by Anderson was just the icing on the cake.
This is what I mean about the lack of professional application. Far, far too many times, our players just don't set enough of a challenge for opposition players. That's not a management thing. It's a basic shortcoming of individual players.
We have a very, very ordinary squad. Young lads who haven't learned what it really means to be a pro. Older heads who are not setting an example. I don't know how we begin to put this right, short of a 3 year rebuilding job.
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Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.
One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
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Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.
One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
Those appointments were made terribly. Our recruitment process in managers and players has been (dare I say it) the cheap option. And I don't care what SM says about managerial salary... we've gone the cheap & easy option again with very little credentials.
Replacing a young manager who played in the premier league and for DRFC with a younger head coach who played in the Championship but also played for Broddy and is from Donny. Coincidence?
We had Wellens (who was always going to be an abrasive character) was one move but not backing him financially was poor from the board - I'm going to go out on a limb and say the players he got in were cheap...very cheap.
And no matter what people say defending the owners and chairman they have ruined the club we had.
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JUST EMPLOY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOOD ARE GOOD AT COACHING FOOTBALL TEAMS.
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It's time for the men in charge to walk away.
Terry Bramall, not interested
Blunt, just who is he ?
Baldwin, does a good carboot.
It's them that are to blame for where we are now,.... the plan, what plan is not working..
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Perhaps we should have a poll?
Who to get rid of?
Manager
Director of football
Directors
Or “the lot”! :)
When the role of DOF (or whatever its called) was introduced at DRFC it rang alarm bells for me. Who is to blame when it goes pear shaped?
Is the manager making the most of his players? Or has the DOF made the correct choice of manager & purchases?
Or is it the Directors who have stopped funding purchases?
Or……..could it be the public of Doncaster who are no longer interested?
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Sorry to say this but it's looking like another catastrophic failure in terms of manager recruitment. WE NEED AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER!!!
We had 3, Ferguson, McCann and Moore. They all left (not sacked) for the same reason, lack of funding.
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Sorry to say this but it's looking like another catastrophic failure in terms of manager recruitment. WE NEED AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER!!!
We had 3, Ferguson, McCann and Moore. They all left (not sacked) for the same reason, lack of funding.
God this is hard work.
The latter two left to take up positions at much bigger clubs in a higher division.
The first one SAID there was a lack of funding. But we did better under the next two managers, and had 30 months of more or less top 7 form after he'd gone.
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Ferguson who had us relegated and came 3rd in a 1 horse race. Proved he can't manage without substantial finance or he simply can't manage. As already said McCann and Moore jumped ship for bigger clubs and presumably bigger pay packets
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I do think there is merit that they'd have stuck it out if we had a bit more funding and appetite to push the boundaries a bit more. We have stability which is great but we do lack a bit of that push we had under John Ryan. We feel like a club happy to tread water to me.
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Sorry to say this but it's looking like another catastrophic failure in terms of manager recruitment. WE NEED AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER!!!
We had 3, Ferguson, McCann and Moore. They all left (not sacked) for the same reason, lack of funding.
McCann and Moore, left for other jobs that undoubtedly paid more money. McCann in the division above as well.
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I do think there is merit that they'd have stuck it out if we had a bit more funding and appetite to push the boundaries a bit more. We have stability which is great but we do lack a bit of that push we had under John Ryan. We feel like a club happy to tread water to me.
BFYP are you not ambitious in your job? If an opportunity came along at a bigger company with a bigger pay packet for you to do the same job would you really stick where you are?
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Ferguson was not a good manager for us. Signed some good players and signed some less good players. His final season with us in League One we finished 6 points off relegation. McCann had 90pc the same squad and same budget, and got us into the play offs the next season, with 17 more points.
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I do think there is merit that they'd have stuck it out if we had a bit more funding and appetite to push the boundaries a bit more. We have stability which is great but we do lack a bit of that push we had under John Ryan. We feel like a club happy to tread water to me.
BFYP are you not ambitious in your job? If an opportunity came along at a bigger company with a bigger pay packet for you to do the same job would you really stick where you are?
Yes actually, I frequently get asked about jobs on more money etc but there's way more things to consider that means I usually say no.
Like football managers it's not just about the money for many of these guys who are already very wealthy and comfortable so won't be solely bothered by £££s. I doubt Mccann would have left if we'd had a bigger budget and stronger ambitions to kick on and strengthen at that point, instead we decimated that squad and saw players leave. Wellens did a very poor job here but we seem to be the exception with him, why is that?
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I think Wellens is proving that the selection process is not that bad, the backing they receive from both supporters and the board when the supporters put pressure on them is suspect to say the least.
I also think Gary Mcsheffrey will surprise a few when he decides to stop having an extended holiday at our clubs expense.
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I do think there is merit that they'd have stuck it out if we had a bit more funding and appetite to push the boundaries a bit more. We have stability which is great but we do lack a bit of that push we had under John Ryan. We feel like a club happy to tread water to me.
BFYP are you not ambitious in your job? If an opportunity came along at a bigger company with a bigger pay packet for you to do the same job would you really stick where you are?
Yes actually, I frequently get asked about jobs on more money etc but there's way more things to consider that means I usually say no.
Like football managers it's not just about the money for many of these guys who are already very wealthy and comfortable so won't be solely bothered by £££s. I doubt Mccann would have left if we'd had a bigger budget and stronger ambitions to kick on and strengthen at that point, instead we decimated that squad and saw players leave. Wellens did a very poor job here but we seem to be the exception with him, why is that?
Well could it be that he inherited a decent set of players at Orient in the 1st place and didn't have to try and build a whole team on a limited budget? You must admit that his recruitment at Donny was very poor to say the least and as for reports of his man management of said poor players......!
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Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.
One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
You don’t have to go that far back.
Try 2021/22.
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At least give him a window lads.
Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?
He’s been in charge for 8 league games.
He’s managed to get 10 points from a side that he he hasn’t signed one player
Some folk need to get a grip
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At least give him a window lads.
Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?
He’s been in charge for 8 league games.
He’s managed to get 10 points from a side that he he hasn’t signed one player
Some folk need to get a grip
If you are happy with the shite that is being served up I think its you that needs to get a grip
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Was only other week some was comparing how we played to how it was under Sod. Why we keep hiring inexperienced managers is a joke. Not once has it worked. The whole plan needs looking at imo. However it's not our call and the powers that be will do what they want. JR must be fuming when he sees what's happening an all that hard work no gone.
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Was only other week some was comparing how we played to how it was under Sod. Why we keep hiring inexperienced managers is a joke. Not once has it worked. The whole plan needs looking at imo. However it's not our call and the powers that be will do what they want. JR must be fuming when he sees what's happening an all that hard work no gone.
JR sacked SOD, look where that got us.
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He needs to quickly realise he’s working with average/poor league 2 players. Stop trying to get plodders to play out from the Back.
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I think we all know there was a lot more to that. The week before JR said he wouldn't sack him. Still the man he employed built a side that won l1. JR had a knack for picking the right manager.Dickov aside and he almost kept us up. One thing for sure JR wouldn't of hired 3 inexperienced managers on the trot. Water under the bridge now and I don't want to sound like this is a rant at the current owners as we all know there isn't a long line of millionaires chomping at the bit to buy us. We just need a rethink on how there running things. If that's a middle l2 side then say that. Facts are that's where we at at now and it will be a few years to claw our way back to a top half l1 side.
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Not only does an experienced manager have a good knowledge of the game, but what’s more important is the contacts, with other clubs and players and managers, we have gone for the cheap option with the past 3 simple as that
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We have but he’s the manager now. He deserves our support surely?. The job is hard enough as it is. The more our support get on the back of the team and manager, we make it easy for the opposition. The owners want us to do well as do the players and manager. We have a right to question things but when the game gets going surely it’s better to support than boo and whinge?.
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Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.
One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
why? He’s garbage
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Again last night, second half we are being dominated, I look to the bench to hope that he changes things, it was obvious things or personnel needed changing, there was nothing, does he know how to change things? Yes we won the game, but yet again the performance especially second half was awful, porbably the most boring 4-3 I’ve ever attended
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Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.
One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
why? He’s garbage
He could learn by his mistakes most good managers do the great Lawrie did and it looks like Richie has. Give the bloke a chance lets hope he gets the chance to improve things in the window.
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Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.
One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
why? He’s garbage
He could learn by his mistakes most good managers do the great Lawrie did and it looks like Richie has. Give the bloke a chance lets hope he gets the chance to improve things in the window.
He could… but if you listen to him he talks in cliches about positivity and so forth. He is not a pragmatist. He is fundamentally bound to his coaching manual and could be quoting directly from that for a good deal of the time. Unlike those watching he seems to think Rovers were in some kind of control of the second half. He seems unable to open his eyes and perceive reality.
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At least give him a window lads.
Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?
He’s been in charge for 8 league games.
He’s managed to get 10 points from a side that he he hasn’t signed one player
Some folk need to get a grip
If you are happy with the shite that is being served up I think its you that needs to get a grip
I imagine you were moaning like this ten games into sods reign, when we actually got less points than we have under Schofield.
Need to show some patience, slagging off a manager after ten games without him making a single signing is crackers
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The tactics are no different to McSheffrey, the results are no different. you could see that they would score the third and nothing.
The atmosphere will soon become toxic unless players of a certain quality are signed and things change, fans have had their fill now.
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The tactics are no different to McSheffrey, the results are no different. you could see that they would score the third and nothing.
The atmosphere will soon become toxic unless players of a certain quality are signed and things change, fans have had their fill now.
Give the man a chance and think back to the Tranmere game we were all over them in the first 10 minutes or so then following the missed chances heads went down and things went from bad to worse.
He’s inherited the current players some who are light weight and don’t have a fight in their make up things won't change until they’re replaced.
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It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
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One area of deep concern is that we had seemingly appointed Copps to effectively make transfer decisions, not the sole reserve of the manager any longer. We made a raft of signings in the summer when Copps was in this post, and we are now struggling to remain mid-table in the lowest professional tier of the game. I’m not wholly convinced this window will be the success many think it will be.
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We’re not having a great season but by no means are we struggling to remain midtable
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We are exactly mid table. 12th in a league of 24 teams. Our form under Schofield has been 1.3 points per game, compared to 1.5 points per game over the first half of the season in total. We would go backwards if we continue to accrue at 1.3 points per game.
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One area of deep concern is that we had seemingly appointed Copps to effectively make transfer decisions, not the sole reserve of the manager any longer. We made a raft of signings in the summer when Copps was in this post, and we are now struggling to remain mid-table in the lowest professional tier of the game. I’m not wholly convinced this window will be the success many think it will be.
I don't think anyone can be confident with the transfer window but, at least it is an opportunity for Copps and Schofield to jiggle things about.
As in the summer, you would hope Copps has done the homework and groundwork by speaking to players and agents for specific positions.
It's always settling if we can at least one over the line early whilst others we might have competition for.
We'll get the usual impatience from fans if nowt happens in the first week of the window plus the conspiracy theories.
We signed Miller and Molyneux without much fuss so no reason to believe we can't do the same again.
I wouldn't rule out the odd loan either, afterall, that's how Whiteman came to us in the first place and I'm sure we'd welcome a young player of the same potential!!
The objective is we come out of the window better than we started both outward and inward.
Schfield deserves a fair crack of the whip so we'll see what's presented to him and whether that gives us the chance to bridge the small gap to the play offs and beyond.
What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.
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“What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.
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You say this and I agree this is how he comes across, but to me it indicates a single-mindedness and a closed mind to any outside influence. Copps seems a sensitive, considerate individual who listens and I’m afraid Schofield strikes me like someone who will do everything his way and not be easily influenced. Does he ever refer to discussing things with Copps in his interviews?
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“What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.
You say this and I agree this is how he comes across, but to me it indicates a single-mindedness and a closed mind to any outside influence. Copps seems a sensitive, considerate individual who listens and I’m afraid Schofield strikes me like someone who will do everything his way and not be easily influenced. Does he ever refer to discussing things with Copps in his interviews?
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A bit unfair to judge the man until you’ve met him, my apologies if you have. I certainly had an opinion on McCann and Ferguson after attending meetings. After watching Dikov play and manage I got it completely wrong, a lovely friendly bloke.
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We are exactly mid table. 12th in a league of 24 teams. Our form under Schofield has been 1.3 points per game, compared to 1.5 points per game over the first half of the season in total. We would go backwards if we continue to accrue at 1.3 points per game.
Totally skued by the shaky wins we had early in the season
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“What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.
You say this and I agree this is how he comes across, but to me it indicates a single-mindedness and a closed mind to any outside influence. Copps seems a sensitive, considerate individual who listens and I’m afraid Schofield strikes me like someone who will do everything his way and not be easily influenced. Does he ever refer to discussing things with Copps in his interviews?
A bit unfair to judge the man until you’ve met him, my apologies if you have. I certainly had an opinion on McCann and Ferguson after attending meetings. After watching Dikov play and manage I got it completely wrong, a lovely friendly bloke.
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I have not met him - of course. The face he presents, officially as it were, is the one that he wants to define his relationship with the press and us. If he is actually more flexible and chose to be more honest about how he really regarded the performances he would “connect” more with us lot. Our successful previous managers have, for the most part, come over as more genuine. We are all watching the same match and him effectively pretending that we have got it all wrong does not go down well.
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It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
certain games have been better but some have been worse, the tranmere one was the worst I have seen for years, I think he does deserve a chance thou but his only chance will be good backing from the board
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It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
certain games have been better but some have been worse, the tranmere one was the worst I have seen for years, I think he does deserve a chance thou but his only chance will be good backing from the board
Tranmere wasn’t any worse than Carlisle, barrow, Hartlepool
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It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
certain games have been better but some have been worse, the tranmere one was the worst I have seen for years, I think he does deserve a chance thou but his only chance will be good backing from the board
Tranmere wasn’t any worse than Carlisle, barrow, Hartlepool
Colchester....
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I think we all know there was a lot more to that. The week before JR said he wouldn't sack him. Still the man he employed built a side that won l1. JR had a knack for picking the right manager.Dickov aside and he almost kept us up. One thing for sure JR wouldn't of hired 3 inexperienced managers on the trot. Water under the bridge now and I don't want to sound like this is a rant at the current owners as we all know there isn't a long line of millionaires chomping at the bit to buy us. We just need a rethink on how there running things. If that's a middle l2 side then say that. Facts are that's where we at at now and it will be a few years to claw our way back to a top half l1 side.
Which 3 would those be? Wellens had managed 150 games over 4 seasons at 3 previous clubs if you are including him.
The revival under Ryan started when he replaced a poor experienced manager (Wignall) with someone who had never managed a game in his life (Penney).