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Title: Fairytale start
Post by: Donnyjim on August 12, 2023, 03:26:49 pm
3-0 down after 21 mins. Absolutely pathetic.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Fal on August 12, 2023, 03:29:15 pm
All mistakes too
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Campsall rover on August 12, 2023, 03:31:12 pm
3-0 down after 21 mins. Absolutely pathetic.
Bet you enjoyed posting that.
Would you have posted if we were 3-0 up?  Don’t need you to answer that as we know the answer
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: philsky on August 12, 2023, 03:35:28 pm
 Good that McCann has made changes before HT
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 12, 2023, 03:36:21 pm
Wouldn't have hooked Bailey personally. Midfield is weak as piss without him in there
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: ChrisBx on August 12, 2023, 03:38:34 pm
Utterly disgraceful so far. Wood and Olowu have been dreadful.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 12, 2023, 03:39:41 pm
Now watching Broadbent even stupider decision to take Bailey off.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: philsky on August 12, 2023, 03:40:00 pm
Harrogate and this one. We’re a good footballing team seemingly but we need to scrap
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: In the box on August 12, 2023, 03:41:05 pm
All mistakes too
Not mistakes …,It’s called putting pressure on your opponent  . Our defence looks clueless .
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Arsenal Of The North on August 12, 2023, 03:50:57 pm
Shambolic first half, like the lads are clueless. I understand why McCann didn’t make any changes from Tuesday (other than woods) but that’s 2nd league game in my opinion he has got the set up wrong.

Big improvement needed in 2nd half. Credit to Newport they have hustled the life out of us
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Upton Rover on August 12, 2023, 03:52:42 pm
3-0 down after 21 mins. Absolutely pathetic.
Bet you enjoyed posting that.
Would you have posted if we were 3-0 up?  Don’t need you to answer that as we know the answer
I’m sure there would be some positive posts Campsall if we were 3-0 up, but we’re not
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Campsall rover on August 12, 2023, 03:56:31 pm
3-0 down after 21 mins. Absolutely pathetic.
Bet you enjoyed posting that.
Would you have posted if we were 3-0 up?  Don’t need you to answer that as we know the answer
I’m sure there would be some positive posts Campsall if we were 3-0 up, but we’re not
Not from him though.

Flabbergasted by this score line after that performance at Hull.
Very pleased I made the decision not to go today.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Upton Rover on August 12, 2023, 03:58:37 pm
3-0 down after 21 mins. Absolutely pathetic.
Bet you enjoyed posting that.
Would you have posted if we were 3-0 up?  Don’t need you to answer that as we know the answer
I’m sure there would be some positive posts Campsall if we were 3-0 up, but we’re not
Not from him though.

Flabbergasted by this score line after that performance at Hull.
Very pleased I made the decision not to go today.
45 mins left you never know,
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: ChrisBx on August 12, 2023, 03:58:48 pm
Harrogate and this one. We’re a good footballing team seemingly but we need to scrap

We're not a good footballing team.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: bellevuebulgar on August 12, 2023, 04:00:28 pm
Help me out here, I’m tactically clueless….how do we overcome the fast, very effective press that Newport are employing? Is there a simple tactic?
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 12, 2023, 04:04:19 pm
Credit to Newport who look like scoring in every attack. Fast flowing with plenty of numbers and accurate forward passes. No short corners no needless passing, as their off the ball running is very good.
This 45 gives us a great opportunity to show character and fight…
And it’s only game 2….
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Nudga on August 12, 2023, 04:04:51 pm
Help me out here, I’m tactically clueless….how do we overcome the fast, very effective press that Newport are employing? Is there a simple tactic?

Either go long and press them further up the pitch or step up the pace of moving the ball around quickly, preferably going wide to move them out of position.
Difficult to do if no one is on it to match them for pace and physically

Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Upton Rover on August 12, 2023, 04:06:37 pm
Help me out here, I’m tactically clueless….how do we overcome the fast, very effective press that Newport are employing? Is there a simple tactic?
Get Rowe on, and ditch the 4-4-2 to a 3-1-4-2
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 12, 2023, 04:06:47 pm
Think they're treating it like most of us do on an away day and started at Spoons at 9am this morning what a joke of a first half. Subs great but wrong ones for me. No idea how Broadbent has not been subbed in all 3 games.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: bellevuebulgar on August 12, 2023, 04:07:49 pm
Thanks Nudge….. can’t see that happening after that first half effort.☹️
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: In the box on August 12, 2023, 04:12:05 pm
Help me out here, I’m tactically clueless….how do we overcome the fast, very effective press that Newport are employing? Is there a simple tactic?
Get Rowe on, and ditch the 4-4-2 to a 3-1-4-2
Formations go out of the window when your players are caught in the headlights . We need a holding midfielder who can control the play and fill in the gaps . We’ve been all  too slow to get into the game and not matched Newport for pace or pressure. Playing out from the back when your under the constant pressure is pointless . Get the ball up the field to your forwards as quick as possible and playoff second balls in their third of the pitch !!
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Donnyjim on August 12, 2023, 04:15:28 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Campsall rover on August 12, 2023, 04:16:02 pm
4-0
What a disaster.

Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 12, 2023, 04:16:51 pm
3-0 down after 21 mins. Absolutely pathetic.

YES as Les Dawson would say "grim" :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 12, 2023, 04:17:39 pm
Shambles worse than last season this.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: colincramb on August 12, 2023, 04:17:59 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Arsenal Of The North on August 12, 2023, 04:23:14 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time

I’m not buying this ‘chill it’s only the 2nd game’ if we have ambitions of promotion then we can’t afford many more games serving up this kind of football.

We brought McCann in to hit the ground running

Not a dig at you in any way CC just a generalisation about it
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Donnyjim on August 12, 2023, 04:25:29 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time

Well chilled thanks. The problem we now have is that mansfield and notts county will have watched these two games on vid and will see how we crumble under a high press - we need to start working on a plan b tomorrow at 0800. If I was McCann I would get all their arses in and cancel Sunday.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: In the box on August 12, 2023, 04:29:12 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time
We’re keeping up our new tradition of believing this is the season we break free . Butler Wellens McSheffrey ,Schofield  and Now McCann it’s pride we keep this going  :headbang:
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Upton Rover on August 12, 2023, 04:37:17 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time
Most teams at this stage are new teams, if we can’t take points off Harrogate and Newport in the first 2 games, it’s a long uphill battle ahead
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on August 12, 2023, 04:38:02 pm
Utterly disgraceful so far. Wood and Olowu have been dreadful.

Went to the game vs. Harrogate last week and I honestly don't get the Wood hype. Not surprised.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: KingKendrick on August 12, 2023, 04:39:32 pm
All really poor defensive errors. Need to see more from wood. His passes inside either have too much on them or not enough and put us straight under pressure. When we went 3 at the back expecting Roberts and sotona to effectively play as wing backs they were then too deep to support the front line. Biggins struggled to find a red shirt all afternoon. Only positive was the big lad mo faal. Looks a handful and surprisingly good with the ball at his feet
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 12, 2023, 04:42:06 pm
Think we may have stumbled across our walk out song.. as we are bottom of the league. Yazz ‘The only way is up’
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on August 12, 2023, 04:44:30 pm
Think we may have stumbled across our walk out song.. as we are bottom of the league. Yazz ‘The only way is up’

Or, Things Can Only Get Better by D:Ream
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: DRNaith on August 12, 2023, 04:54:00 pm
At least we have the right manager to sort this out. I'd be far more concerned if we had any of our recent former managers in charge to fix it.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: TonySoprano on August 12, 2023, 04:57:44 pm
It's going to be a loooooong season.

0 points against harrogate and Newport! And soundly outplayed in both.

Only 1 way were going
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 12, 2023, 04:58:14 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time
We’re keeping up our new tradition of believing this is the season we break free . Butler Wellens McSheffrey ,Schofield  and Now McCann it’s pride we keep this going  :headbang:

Give over. Other than Wellens nobody expected anything from the other 3
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: In the box on August 12, 2023, 05:00:19 pm
The worrying thing for me is that I thought Harrogate were sharper and quicker than us. They out hustled us for much of the game. The same is happening again - and as I typing we are 4-0 down against another mediocre team. It’s going to be a very tough season.

Just chill. It’s the second game ffs. Yeah, it’s not ideal buts it’s a new team. Give it some time
We’re keeping up our new tradition of believing this is the season we break free . Butler Wellens McSheffrey ,Schofield  and Now McCann it’s pride we keep this going  :headbang:

Give over. Other than Wellens nobody expected anything from the other 3
Wellens will be found out as well !!
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Nudga on August 12, 2023, 05:04:07 pm
Some rate Fannie's on here. GM said before the season started that it's going to take a few weeks to get going properly.
I expected loads of inconsistent performances and results for the first two months.
Really bad day someone else's office today but luckily not much time to dwell on it before the next match.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 12, 2023, 05:04:49 pm
No hiding for Grant on this showing looking forward to hearing what he has to say because that was atrocious, I’d go so far to say worse than last season
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: leedshayter on August 12, 2023, 05:05:15 pm
We’re bottom of the league
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: bobbymax on August 12, 2023, 05:06:13 pm
No goals and no points against two teams who will almost certainly be bottom six. Outplayed and out-muscled by both. A serious rethink already required?
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: ChrisBx on August 12, 2023, 05:09:26 pm
That was as bad as anything under GM and DS. I doubt we'll see anything that bad for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 12, 2023, 05:12:57 pm
I’ve got total faith in McCann, who is clearly a very good manager at this level. However, it’s probably not lost on everyone that we actually won there and kept a clean sheet last season.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 12, 2023, 05:13:36 pm
Stockport have also lost both games and they were most people's favourites.  Long way to go. McCann will sort it.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on August 12, 2023, 05:23:00 pm
Some rate Fannie's on here. GM said before the season started that it's going to take a few weeks to get going properly.
I expected loads of inconsistent performances and results for the first two months.
Really bad day someone else's office today but luckily not much time to dwell on it before the next match.

George Broadbent got an account on this forum like?!
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: richtherover on August 12, 2023, 05:24:00 pm
That was as bad as anything last season. Could have been 5-0 at half time. Tearing my hair out after such a great performance at Hull. Everton must be terrified. Really looked like a non league side. Supposed to be a team of fighters, us against the world and all that. A decent side would have got double figures against us today. Heat of the moment comments I know but so deflated after watching that. Sort it out Grant.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Silkscarf on August 12, 2023, 05:24:33 pm
We’re 6 points off automatic promotion with 132 points still to play for.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: dickos1 on August 12, 2023, 05:35:47 pm
f**k me people need to get a grip. We’ve played two games, if you’re not having that arguement then you’re clueless.
Look at Stockport last season, look at us last season.
The table sorts itself out in the end and we will be lot higher than we were last season at the end.
It’s a bad start but it doesn’t mean much
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: drfcsteve on August 12, 2023, 05:37:33 pm
So many new players all brought in because presumably they were better than what we had, yet that’s 2 performances that wouldn’t be out of place last season.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: ForsolongaRover on August 12, 2023, 05:44:14 pm
I’ve got total faith in McCann, who is clearly a very good manager at this level. However, it’s probably not lost on everyone that we actually won there and kept a clean sheet last season.

…”at this level” isn’t quite right though is it? I don’t doubt that he probably has the ability to figure out what is needed in L2, but he has not exactly mastered it yet!
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Nudga on August 12, 2023, 05:54:18 pm
So many new players all brought in because presumably they were better than what we had, yet that’s 2 performances that wouldn’t be out of place last season.

You seriously believe that it should click after two league games with a high turnover of playing staff in the summer?
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: dickos1 on August 12, 2023, 05:56:27 pm
It's going to be a loooooong season.

0 points against harrogate and Newport! And soundly outplayed in both.

Only 1 way were going

I think you’ll be incorrect
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: drfcsteve on August 12, 2023, 06:12:14 pm
So many new players all brought in because presumably they were better than what we had, yet that’s 2 performances that wouldn’t be out of place last season.

You seriously believe that it should click after two league games with a high turnover of playing staff in the summer?

Did we not have a pre-season?
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Nudga on August 12, 2023, 06:49:13 pm
So many new players all brought in because presumably they were better than what we had, yet that’s 2 performances that wouldn’t be out of place last season.

You seriously believe that it should click after two league games with a high turnover of playing staff in the summer?

Did we not have a pre-season?

And? Do you honestly think those friendlies are enough to 1, find a settled side, 2, find form, 3, all these new faces gelling straight away.

It's 2 games in FFS
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Campsall rover on August 12, 2023, 08:01:38 pm
It's going to be a loooooong season.

0 points against harrogate and Newport! And soundly outplayed in both.

Only 1 way were going
We are doomed to the National League then are we after 2 defeats.

Crying out loud get a grip. You are embarrassing.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 12, 2023, 08:44:45 pm
I still think we've got a better squad but only a slightly better starting 11.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 12, 2023, 09:40:23 pm
Pleasingly, at least Leeds lost today.
Title: Re: Fairytale start
Post by: danumdon on August 12, 2023, 09:55:24 pm
Jesasus, to read this thread it sounds like some poor dog's gonnna get a kicking tonight!!

FFS get a grip.