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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 12:09:12 pm

Title: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 12:09:12 pm
Any of you watching that far right propaganda sewer, just be aware of what their presenters are like.

This is that loon-eyed headcase Neil Oliver giving a thumbs up to Holocaust denial.

https://x.com/DrMatthewSweet/status/1705354121480425969?s=20

If you watch it, you're doing so in the full knowledge of what they are doing. Your choice.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: glosterred on September 23, 2023, 12:58:37 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?


Title: Re: GB News
Post by: DonnyOsmond on September 23, 2023, 03:56:53 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




BBC and Sky are usually alright.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: ravenrover on September 23, 2023, 04:31:48 pm
I thought OFCOM said GB News wasn't a news channel?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 23, 2023, 05:23:10 pm
Al Jazeera not bad
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 05:47:37 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 23, 2023, 05:49:53 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
All of them?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 05:59:05 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
All of them?

My take is that having one who openly supports Holocaust denial and is kept in post is enough to make you question the editorial policy. What's your's?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 23, 2023, 06:30:45 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
All of them?

My take is that having one who openly supports Holocaust denial and is kept in post is enough to make you question the editorial policy. What's your's?
My take is that if one person in an organisation is a bad ‘un (for whatever reason) it doesn’t mean the rest are guilty of the same thing.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 07:11:42 pm
And if the "wrong un" stays in post, what do you conclude about the organisation's overall policy? Do you assume they are generally OK, despite hosting someone with those views?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: glosterred on September 23, 2023, 07:15:22 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?


Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 23, 2023, 07:44:33 pm
I won't entertain that b*llocks of a pile of wa&k.
Unfortunately idiots do watch it .
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 08:11:51 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 23, 2023, 08:19:15 pm
Billy. You said that all of the presenters of GB news were conspiracy theory head cases.
If you didn’t mean that, then fine, but that comment is a conspiracy theory itself.

Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2023, 08:57:31 pm
Belton.

I'm not going into a syntax argument with you.

They have presenters (plural) who are anti-semitic conspiracy theorists, loud and proud in public. That's the substantive point. If you want to discuss that, I'm game.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 23, 2023, 09:08:31 pm
Unfortunately,
idiots.

Let them rot.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 23, 2023, 09:24:39 pm
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or no would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 23, 2023, 09:26:45 pm
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or know would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.

Not even a question,but you've responded to my above statement.
Thanks
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 23, 2023, 09:48:22 pm
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or no would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.
.

Thank Christ for that .
I hope you aren't still correcting A level exams.
Terrible Use of Language  :lol:
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: glosterred on September 24, 2023, 07:59:17 am
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?


Title: Re: GB News
Post by: wilts rover on September 24, 2023, 09:19:36 am
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




Holacaust denial = free speech.

Nothing else needs adding here.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: drfchound on September 24, 2023, 09:31:24 am
Just a thought here, the OP mentions a certain news channel and tells us about the presenters views so it is fair to think that he has watched that channel and yet The Deflector tells us all that only idiots watch that it.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 09:32:08 am
I’ve just looked at that link again. What is it supposed to actually be?
Someone has commented on someone liking a documentary, I think. Someone says ‘this is brilliant’. What is it that he likes about it? Is Oliver really a holocaust denier?
Now it seems to have morphed into GB news welcoming holocaust deniers, and GB news viewers being guilty by association.



Title: Re: GB News
Post by: wilts rover on September 24, 2023, 11:15:42 am
Never seen the channel myself Belton but I have read comment on it.

Is Oliver really a holocaust denier? He invites known holocaust deniers on his show and does not challenge them about it.

If there really is no problem with the interview - why have GB New deleted the clip from their website?

Was this a one off or does Oliver have a history of antisemitism?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/08/jewish-groups-urge-gb-news-to-stop-indulging-conspiracy-theories

I find the Jewish press a good place to start when discussing if people are/are not holocaust deniers/anti-semites.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/outrage-as-gb-news-interviews-former-holocaust-denier-about-demographics-on-primetime-1TQFE0EWsIPWI1wVaW4aDP

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gb-news-invites-guest-who-denied-holocaust-on-to-show-to-discuss-population-decline/

All these things are out there for people/GB viewers to find if they are interested in them. Or maybe they just don't want to find them because they agree with them and dont want to be reminded what they are?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 24, 2023, 11:32:45 am
Belton.

No-one is saying that viewers are "guilty by association". Please don't make that sort of unwarranted, incorrect assumption.

The reason I posted this was to point out what GB News is normalising. I think it is extremely dangerous, and that the viewers have a right to know. It's then their decision what they do with that knowledge.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 11:46:18 am
Belton.

No-one is saying that viewers are "guilty by association". Please don't make that sort of unwarranted, incorrect assumption.

The reason I posted this was to point out what GB News is normalising. I think it is extremely dangerous, and that the viewers have a right to know. It's then their decision what they do with that knowledge.
If my assumption is incorrect, then I apologise. Based on the information I had, however, I don’t think what I said was unwarranted.
If you feel you need to educate GB News viewers, then that’s your prerogative, fill your boots.

I have never watched GB News, by the way, but I might give it a go now and see what the kerfuffle is. Though I suspect that’s what GB News really wants - more viewers.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 11:52:34 am
Never seen the channel myself Belton but I have read comment on it.

Is Oliver really a holocaust denier? He invites known holocaust deniers on his show and does not challenge them about it.

If there really is no problem with the interview - why have GB New deleted the clip from their website?

Was this a one off or does Oliver have a history of antisemitism?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/08/jewish-groups-urge-gb-news-to-stop-indulging-conspiracy-theories

I find the Jewish press a good place to start when discussing if people are/are not holocaust deniers/anti-semites.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/outrage-as-gb-news-interviews-former-holocaust-denier-about-demographics-on-primetime-1TQFE0EWsIPWI1wVaW4aDP

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gb-news-invites-guest-who-denied-holocaust-on-to-show-to-discuss-population-decline/

All these things are out there for people/GB viewers to find if they are interested in them. Or maybe they just don't want to find them because they agree with them and dont want to be reminded what they are?
The title of the thread is ‘GB News’ not ‘Neil Oliver’.

Surely the fact that GBN have taken down the clip suggests they don’t promote that view and have acted upon it.
Well done GB News, if that’s the case.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 24, 2023, 01:28:38 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: wilts rover on September 24, 2023, 01:46:34 pm
Never seen the channel myself Belton but I have read comment on it.

Is Oliver really a holocaust denier? He invites known holocaust deniers on his show and does not challenge them about it.

If there really is no problem with the interview - why have GB New deleted the clip from their website?

Was this a one off or does Oliver have a history of antisemitism?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/08/jewish-groups-urge-gb-news-to-stop-indulging-conspiracy-theories

I find the Jewish press a good place to start when discussing if people are/are not holocaust deniers/anti-semites.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/outrage-as-gb-news-interviews-former-holocaust-denier-about-demographics-on-primetime-1TQFE0EWsIPWI1wVaW4aDP

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gb-news-invites-guest-who-denied-holocaust-on-to-show-to-discuss-population-decline/

All these things are out there for people/GB viewers to find if they are interested in them. Or maybe they just don't want to find them because they agree with them and dont want to be reminded what they are?
The title of the thread is ‘GB News’ not ‘Neil Oliver’.

Surely the fact that GBN have taken down the clip suggests they don’t promote that view and have acted upon it.
Well done GB News, if that’s the case.

The title of the thread is GN News. THe question in the OP of the thread is about the GB News presenter Neil Oliver. You asked me a question about Neil Oliver. Why do you suddenly have a question with me giving a detailed answer about Neil Oliver - the man who allows holocaust deniers and promotes anti-semitic conspiracy theories on his GB News show?

The fact GB News have taken down that clip, without comment or condemnation of it, tells me they are ashamed to have people other than GB News viewers see it. It does not tell me if they promote that view or not. Their lack of condemnation of it - or censure of Oliver for allowing it to happen - does.

It also tells me just as much about the people who post on here and refuse to condemn it.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 02:00:51 pm
Sorry, Wilts, I probably shouldn’t have quoted your detailed post of Oliver to make mine. I knew almost nothing about Oliver before this thread. I would like to think that condemning a holocaust denier goes without saying. Just to be clear, I condemn any individual, or group that deny the holocaust.
I just don’t I’ve seen any evidence that GB News are promoting that view.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: glosterred on September 24, 2023, 03:41:50 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.


Title: Re: GB News
Post by: tyke1962 on September 24, 2023, 05:08:55 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.

But doesn't free speech also come with responsibility too .

There isn't a scintilla of evidence that supports the view that the holocaust didn't happen .

The evidence that it did happen is beyond question .

You may as well point to the moon and say it's a block of cheese .

Free speech is one thing but a News Channel giving someone a platform to promote a pack of lies on one of the worst examples of genocide is quite another .
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: glosterred on September 24, 2023, 05:35:32 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.

But doesn't free speech also come with responsibility too .

There isn't a scintilla of evidence that supports the view that the holocaust didn't happen .

The evidence that it did happen is beyond question .

You may as well point to the moon and say it's a block of cheese .

Free speech is one thing but a News Channel giving someone a platform to promote a pack of lies on one of the worst examples of genocide is quite another .

Yes it comes with responsibility but it also the responsibility of those interviewing these people to challenge their view and point them to the evidence that the holocaust was real and not something that can be denied.


https://twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1704987478426259465



Title: Re: GB News
Post by: ncRover on September 24, 2023, 06:11:22 pm
Both men positing that low birth rates are possibly due to covid vaccinations.

But in a running lack of self-awareness proclaim that the ruling elite are stoking fear and division by design.

Allowing them freedom of speech allows their ideas to be challenged, ridiculed and then run out of oxygen.

After this you just trust that anyone stupid enough to believe it all is too stupid to influence society.

Cancel them, and like Brand they can be like “see they want to keep us quiet! We’re on to something!”
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 24, 2023, 06:19:12 pm
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.

But doesn't free speech also come with responsibility too .

There isn't a scintilla of evidence that supports the view that the holocaust didn't happen .

The evidence that it did happen is beyond question .

You may as well point to the moon and say it's a block of cheese .

Free speech is one thing but a News Channel giving someone a platform to promote a pack of lies on one of the worst examples of genocide is quite another .

Yes it comes with responsibility but it also the responsibility of those interviewing these people to challenge their view and point them to the evidence that the holocaust was real and not something that can be denied.


https://twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1704987478426259465





What do you mean about the "responsibility of those interviewing these people?"

Oliver IS an interviewer. HE is the anti-Semite conspiracy theorist. He's paid by GB News to pour that filth out of their studios into gullible people's feeds.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: ncRover on September 24, 2023, 06:29:08 pm
Was there actually holocaust denial in the exchange? I can’t find the clip.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 24, 2023, 06:47:42 pm
Was there actually holocaust denial in the exchange? I can’t find the clip.

I didn't post anything about a video clip.

I posted Oliver liking on Twitter a post telling him how good a neo-Nazi video is - one that says Jews were paid to make up stories about concentration camps.

Oliver responded by claiming on GB News in one of his word salad rants that he's paid to dish up, that "they" were coming for him.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 07:35:17 pm
Oliver sounds like a WUM to me.
And he appears to be quite good at it.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: drfchound on September 24, 2023, 08:11:26 pm
Can’t people just make their point and minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 24, 2023, 08:11:52 pm
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or no would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.
.

Thank Christ for that .
I hope you aren't still correcting A level exams.
Terrible Use of Language  :lol:

?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 24, 2023, 08:16:24 pm
Just a thought here, the OP mentions a certain news channel and tells us about the presenters views so it is fair to think that he has watched that channel and yet The Deflector tells us all that only idiots watch that it.

Thanks  Gra.
Loving the new name you've given me.
The deflector.
 Love it!
Great wit and humour.
Funny as
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 08:44:20 pm
Can’t people just make their point an minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!
You make a really good point Hound
That’s the grown up thing to do.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 24, 2023, 08:59:10 pm
Brilliant post.
You've cut me in half.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 24, 2023, 09:01:24 pm
Anyway GB news is presented by Kitsons, and presented to Kitsons.
I really don't have to justify that.
Fact
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: scawsby steve on September 24, 2023, 09:05:52 pm
Isn't Michelle Dewbury a presenter on GB News?

That is one seriously gorgeous looking woman.

I actually think I might have a chance with her.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on September 24, 2023, 09:08:16 pm
I have to be very careful what I say here Steve.

I get accused by trolls of being homophobic! :lol: :P
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: scawsby steve on September 24, 2023, 09:35:54 pm
I've just had an e-mail from her. She says she actually likes Arthur Mullard lookalikes.

That's torn it, with me looking more like Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 24, 2023, 10:21:09 pm
I've just had an e-mail from her. She says she actually likes Arthur Mullard lookalikes.

That's torn it, with me looking more like Tom Cruise.
In Vanilla Sky?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: wilts rover on September 24, 2023, 10:44:51 pm
Can’t people just make their point and minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!

Are you saying don't beleive what you hear/see on GB News then hound?

That's heresy to some posters here it seems.

Because if they are lying to you/deceiving you on that - what else are they lying to you/deceiving you about?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: drfchound on September 24, 2023, 10:49:28 pm
Can’t people just make their point and minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!

Are you saying don't beleive what you hear/see on GB News then hound?

That's heresy to some posters here it seems.

Because if they are lying to you/deceiving you on that - what else are they lying to you/deceiving you about?

Wilts, I have never seen GB News and not even heard of it until the OP warned me not to be influenced by what is said on there. So to answer your question, no.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Nudga on September 25, 2023, 07:31:33 am
Unreal if true.

https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet/status/
1705841969845403788?t=49dOPhUKXjnIdnj6OY18ug&s=19
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Nudga on September 25, 2023, 03:41:19 pm
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: idler on September 25, 2023, 04:09:47 pm
It was mentioned in the Ukraine thread off topic Nudga.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Nudga on September 25, 2023, 04:31:56 pm
It was mentioned in the Ukraine thread off topic Nudga.

Missed that as I don't look at that thread.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 25, 2023, 05:20:52 pm
It was a stupid mistake Nudga. No-one did their homework on the guest. All responsible have apologised.

You reckon a mistake, stupid as it might be, matches with conscious decisions to support Holocaust deniers?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: wilts rover on September 25, 2023, 05:56:36 pm
Unreal if true.

https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet/status/
1705841969845403788?t=49dOPhUKXjnIdnj6OY18ug&s=19

Page not found
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: wilts rover on September 25, 2023, 05:59:02 pm
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

Apologies for not answering your post when you want - but I have a life and only log on and off here occassionally and never when I am at work.

But yup, outrage when it suits.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 25, 2023, 09:25:17 pm
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958
What a set of Twits!!!, some folks decry me for being a History buff, but if they had bothered to ask me if they should wheel out a Ukrainian War veteran, who had lived in the West since the end of World war 2 my question would be, “was he in the Cossack Divisions in the Wehrmacht or the First or Second Ukrainian SS Division?” Churchill sent back 2.5 million ex Red Army POW’S and they all ended up as part of the tarmac making up the Road of Bones, the ones he couldn’t send back had all been in the Waffen SS or Wehrmacht!
But did that make him a Nazi?
Stalin had starved 25 million Ukrainians to death, they saw the Germans as liberators,as did the Estonians, Latvians,Lithuanians and Cossacks all were persecuted under the Stalin regime!
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 25, 2023, 11:14:06 pm
Yes it's absolutely stupid. But it doesn't make them committed Nazi sympathisers.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: SydneyRover on September 28, 2023, 12:03:39 am
Just in case anyone missed it ...........

''GB News has suspended the presenters Dan Wootton and Laurence Fox as the channel struggles to contain the fallout after misogynistic comments made on Wootton’s show''

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/sep/27/gb-news-suspends-dan-wootton-after-laurence-foxs-remarks-on-show
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: RobTheRover on September 28, 2023, 05:34:44 am
Didn't miss it, Sydney

I was laughing about it all day yesterday. I love how Wootton was all post-event apologetic, issued a twitter apology and everything, then Fox cut him off at the knees by sharing a private WhatsApp message between them where they were giggling about it after the show.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: belton rover on September 28, 2023, 06:36:46 am
I Don’t know much about Fox, but Wootton is vile. Hopefully, this will finish him.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: DRFC_AjA on September 28, 2023, 11:04:02 am
Were you equally outraged recently that the BBC radio played a song in the middle of the day that directly calls for violence against any female who believes in women's rights and that there are only two genders

Or did the guardian not tell you to be outraged about that? Presumably based on the logic that some presenters on GB news are bonkers (agreed on that to be fair) therefore the whole channel is; then this also applies to the BBC and the whole organisation is full of trans violence activists? Or again do you need the guardian to blame white privilege or something on that somehow

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/16/bbc-radio-6-music-defends-playing-song-encourage-kick-terfs/
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: DRFC_AjA on September 28, 2023, 11:07:18 am
Any of you watching that far right propaganda sewer, just be aware of what their presenters are like.

This is that loon-eyed headcase Neil Oliver giving a thumbs up to Holocaust denial.

https://x.com/DrMatthewSweet/status/1705354121480425969?s=20

If you watch it, you're doing so in the full knowledge of what they are doing. Your choice.

Based on that logic the BBC is a breeding ground of peados and sex pests and if you watch any of it you do so in the Full knowledge of what you are doing
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: SydneyRover on September 28, 2023, 12:02:44 pm
Were you equally outraged recently that the BBC radio played a song in the middle of the day that directly calls for violence against any female who believes in women's rights and that there are only two genders

Or did the guardian not tell you to be outraged about that? Presumably based on the logic that some presenters on GB news are bonkers (agreed on that to be fair) therefore the whole channel is; then this also applies to the BBC and the whole organisation is full of trans violence activists? Or again do you need the guardian to blame white privilege or something on that somehow

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/16/bbc-radio-6-music-defends-playing-song-encourage-kick-terfs/

Can't/won't access the tele/mail ...........

this is a payback song according a couple of sites including this one

''Overall Meaning

The lyrics of DREAM NAILS's song "Payback" speak of the pain and hurt caused by someone's actions and words. The repetition of "I remember what you did, I remember what you said" emphasizes the lasting impact of the trauma. The lines "We drowned in tears, we swam in pain, we pulled ourselves back from the grave" describe the struggle to recover and move forward after the trauma.


The chorus, "One day we'll make you pay," expresses a desire for justice and revenge against the perpetrator. The lines "Living in crosshairs this is war, you took it all but still want more" suggest that the perpetrator has not taken responsibility for their actions and is continuing to harm the victims.


The bridge of the song, "Hey! Mister! Get your hands off my sister!" is a powerful statement of solidarity and a call to action against sexual harassment and assault. The repetition of "We can't live like this" at the end of the song further emphasizes the need for change and accountability''

https://sonichits.com/video/DREAM_NAILS/PayBack

Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 29, 2023, 03:02:15 pm
Calvin Robinson suspended now.

Looks like some grown up at GB News has finally realised they have to clean the stables.

But it won't stop them offering the channel as a free communications conduit for right wing Tory MPs.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: DRFC_AjA on September 29, 2023, 05:44:23 pm
Calvin Robinson suspended now.

Looks like some grown up at GB News has finally realised they have to clean the stables.

But it won't stop them offering the channel as a free communications conduit for right wing Tory MPs.

You watch/listen to the BBC knowing full well that you contribute to sex pests and peados (applying your logic in the opening text of this post). Ohho we know what you are  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: DonnyOsmond on September 29, 2023, 06:15:21 pm
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

The Speaker of the House in Canada was from the Liberal Party which are centrists. Not everyone needs to be labeled as "far" on either side when 95% of the media or elected politicians aren't at all that far.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: ncRover on September 29, 2023, 06:23:22 pm
Calvin Robinson suspended now.

Looks like some grown up at GB News has finally realised they have to clean the stables.

But it won't stop them offering the channel as a free communications conduit for right wing Tory MPs.

That’s going to be one batshit crazy Rumble channel
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: SydneyRover on October 04, 2023, 10:02:05 pm
Looking at the news the only bright spot appears to be Fox being arrested
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: drfchound on October 04, 2023, 10:09:00 pm
The local weather forecast looks good for the coming weekend.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: MachoMadness on October 05, 2023, 10:40:17 am
Both Fox and Robinson sacked now.

Think it's very funny that Robinson didn't even do anything wrong really, just stuck up for his mate, but they binned him off anyway because they can't be f**ked with him. When you're too much of a talentless grifter even for GB News you know you're in trouble.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on October 05, 2023, 10:45:53 am
They are trying to be the UK equivalent of Fox News. That requires a long term development of a faux authority so that people take them seriously as they gently pull people further into disinformation.

What they got with Laurence Fox was the very worst kind of upper middle class boorishness. And with Robinson they got out and out batshitness. It makes them look like a spoof, sub Day Today outfit. So I absolutely understand why GB News has fired them. Doesn't in any way change their aim though.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Sprotyrover on October 05, 2023, 05:40:36 pm
Is it a good watch?, sounds like Corrie back in the 80’s
Is my life less richer because I don’t watch it ?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: drfchound on October 05, 2023, 06:57:01 pm
If it is so bad then why does anyone watch it.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Pancho Regan on October 05, 2023, 07:56:08 pm
If it is so bad then why does anyone watch it.

Probably the same reason why Andrew Tate had hundreds of thousands of followers, hound.



Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Sprotyrover on October 05, 2023, 08:16:35 pm
Andrew Tate, what a shirt front he is!
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: drfchound on October 05, 2023, 08:59:45 pm
If it is so bad then why does anyone watch it.

Probably the same reason why Andrew Tate had hundreds of thousands of followers, hound.

Pancho, I could never understand why people would watch that either.
In fact, someone on here a couple of weeks ago said that only idiots watch GB News.
I will see if I can find the post.
There are people on here who watch it.
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: Iberian Red on October 05, 2023, 09:38:12 pm
You don't have to spend more of your valuable time.
It was me.
Happy now?
Title: Re: GB News
Post by: River Don on October 05, 2023, 10:03:23 pm
I worked in a media company. This idiot started publishing his own newssheet to explain to the company his point of view. The idiots let him get away with this shite too.

He was a budding Rupert Murdoch.