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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: silent majority on August 06, 2024, 09:01:40 am
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2024/august/06/club-statement---david-blunt/
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Just read it no longer a director or shareholder
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Which is a good thing
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So will those shares be reassigned to TB or A N Other?
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Don’t think he will be missed will he. His arrogance towards the fans at meet the owners event was a disgrace. Glad he’s no longer affiliated with our club in any capacity.
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That is a very short statement to say how long he has been here. I wonder if there were any awkward discussions before he left?
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His shares could be cancelled. It would be an easier and cheaper way to deal with them - if he agreed.
BobG
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His shares could be cancelled. It would be an easier and cheaper way to deal with them - if he agreed.
BobG
If normal commercial values applied, the worth of shares will have fallen very markedly under his leadership. SM may be honestly welcoming his departure now, but I wonder if more could have been done to make clear the views of the fans/company customers during the time he oversaw the decline. It might have persuaded him to resign the Chair sooner.
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That is a very short statement to say how long he has been here. I wonder if there were any awkward discussions before he left?
I think you need to read between the lines idler.
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Which is a good thing
How is this better .. what is the options open for the long term for the club . Clearly a one man owner can’t ( in his 80s) be looking to continue for many seasons without a plan B . I very much doubt when Terry joined the club he had envisaged this and be the only person fully responsible for the survival of what is now ‘Club Doncaster’ and all this entails. Q) why has no one ever publicly wanted to get involved in investing as possible owner !
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That is a very short statement to say how long he has been here. I wonder if there were any awkward discussions before he left?
Just said the same, very strange end to his tenure.
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Wording on loans is also a bit ambiguous- did he waive them or was he paid
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I think we know Terry doesn't wash his laundry in public, and David Blunt was one of oldest colleagues at the least. For SM and the club to phrase it as they have speaks volumes I think
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I find it odd that many who defended his 'leadership' for so long are rejoicing at this.
I wonder at what point in our decade of decline people realised he was part of the problem?
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I find it odd that many who defended his 'leadership' for so long are rejoicing at this.
I wonder at what point in our decade of decline people realised he was part of the problem?
Who defended it?
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I think we know Terry doesn't wash his laundry in public, and David Blunt was one of oldest colleagues at the least. For SM and the club to phrase it as they have speaks volumes I think
We've been very careful over the last few years to ensure that the survival of the club was paramount. Its my belief that if a free hand was given to DB he would have continued to run the club down, something we couldn't and wouldn't accept.
Therefore we worked hard internally on supporting TB and GB to make the changes that have been welcomed by DRFC supporters. In our discussions with the club it was obvious where the problems lay, and it was also obvious where the solutions lay as well. You have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
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Unusual very short statement
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Unusual very short statement
More like a 'thanks, but no thanks'.
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Which is a good thing
How is this better .. what is the options open for the long term for the club . Clearly a one man owner can’t ( in his 80s) be looking to continue for many seasons without a plan B . I very much doubt when Terry joined the club he had envisaged this and be the only person fully responsible for the survival of what is now ‘Club Doncaster’ and all this entails. Q) why has no one ever publicly wanted to get involved in investing as possible owner !
Not having DB involved in any capacity even as a shareholder is good for the club. Everything else you have written is a separate issue to that and only something Terry can answer
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So will those shares be reassigned to TB or A N Other?
There's nobody else, this is all Terry now, and he's loving it!
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No disrespect to Terry, but he is knocking on a bit, I would hope there are plans for the future to ensure the club stays in good competent hands
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The reason we have been shit for most of the last five years, is surely the combination of a squeezed budget and linked to this, totally abject decisions on recruitment and retention. David Blunt isn’t funding the losses or has the ability to do that. Surely he was working to a brief?
It’s clear last summer a decision was made to end decline and failure, and provide the finance to convince McCann to come here, and to start investing in a squad to succeed. That decision can only have been made by Terry. Why this wasn’t made previously, I guess only Terry knows.
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No disrespect to Terry, but he is knocking on a bit, I would hope there are plans for the future to ensure the club stays in good competent hands
I thinkvTerry covered that at the Meet The Owners when he said he wanted to make the club successful again and therefore be in the best place possible when the time comes. With TB and GB as the remaining major shareholders, I think we can trust them to only consider selling to the right kind of people, just as TB said.
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Always thought he must have some naughty pictures of TB as the reason for him being kept in position for so long, maybe TB’s managed to recover them now!
;) :lol:
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It is over and we move on, making it an issue now like it is being shown on here is just giving it publicity and making it an issue that serves no purpose.
It's finished let it go, nobody or the club comes out with any gain apart from him leaving, for the club now to gain traction and like the fire starter it is best to learn lessons and put it in the bin of history, and put it along with the other poor owner history the club have been unfortunate to have had in the past.
We are still here, we are rising again, and the future looks a lot better, they are the things to concentrate on now, and all pull together in the same direction
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Always thought he must have some naughty pictures of TB as the reason for him being kept in position for so long, maybe TB’s managed to recover them now!
;) :lol:
I wonder why he was kept on for so long. There appears to be no love lost now which seems a bit of a 180.
Anyway, good news all round it seems ahead of the new season.
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So will those shares be reassigned to TB or A N Other?
Great post SM, thanks. Certainly an improving atmosphere around the cub the last 8 or 9 months from top to bottom, long may it continue
There's nobody else, this is all Terry now, and he's loving it!
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It is over and we move on, making it an issue now like it is being shown on here is just giving it publicity and making it an issue that serves no purpose.
It's finished let it go, nobody or the club comes out with any gain apart from him leaving, for the club now to gain traction and like the fire starter it is best to learn lessons and put it in the bin of history, and put it along with the other poor owner history the club have been unfortunate to have had in the past.
We are still here, we are rising again, and the future looks a lot better, they are the things to concentrate on now, and all pull together in the same direction
Totally agree with that Selby. The DFP headline doesn't help and only stirs up unnecessary speculation on social media.
We don't need this on the eve of the new season. Focus on the positive.
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It is over and we move on, making it an issue now like it is being shown on here is just giving it publicity and making it an issue that serves no purpose.
It's finished let it go, nobody or the club comes out with any gain apart from him leaving, for the club now to gain traction and like the fire starter it is best to learn lessons and put it in the bin of history, and put it along with the other poor owner history the club have been unfortunate to have had in the past.
We are still here, we are rising again, and the future looks a lot better, they are the things to concentrate on now, and all pull together in the same direction
Totally agree with that Selby. The DFP headline doesn't help and only stirs up unnecessary speculation on social media.
We don't need this on the eve of the new season. Focus on the positive.
Couldn't disagree more Baz!
This is positive news, just about the best thing that could have happened to the club in recent years and should rightly be celebrated. His presence around the club was soul destroying for quite a number of staff members and had to be dealt with. Relieving him of the chairmanship had an immediate impact on the playing side of the club and now that he's gone and TB has sole control of the club means investment and progress.
As far as I'm aware he's the only shareholder in the club to ask for his loans to be repaid! We now know where we stand, and its got to be good for DRFC.
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you may remember this thread someone not me started
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=289195.msg1274692#msg1274692
when his horse amazingly won that ASCOT race with hindsight the cash he got was only about half a million not a full million as I thought -APOLOGIES FOR THAT !!
if Poptronic had not won that race he could still be with us - who knows !!!
by the way that Bluestocking horse he beat has improved like hell and must be worth 5 to 10 million for breeding but will never be sold SM told us the SP about his shares at the time
How come he has 1/3 shares? Had he put X amount in? I'm fully aware Gavin has been given them for essentially the amount of income he's generated being here.
He did buy into the club, the shares weren’t gifted.
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A blunt statement, literally and figuratively. Good news all round.
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Two things ..credit to the fact that he leaves with no loans outstanding .
I am the same age as Thierry and whilst hate ageism Octogenarians realise. they are likely in their last decade and have planned their succession .In TB ‘s case that in luke’s. the ownership of DRFC of which he is nos dole financier though Our CEO has shares ( and Viking CO op His Foundation will not be able to take over DRFC ( I checked that ) and he has already stated he wants the club to regain it’s former status , which would together with the laudable Club Doncaster and our Community brand make the club more attractive .
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It is over and we move on, making it an issue now like it is being shown on here is just giving it publicity and making it an issue that serves no purpose.
It's finished let it go, nobody or the club comes out with any gain apart from him leaving, for the club now to gain traction and like the fire starter it is best to learn lessons and put it in the bin of history, and put it along with the other poor owner history the club have been unfortunate to have had in the past.
We are still here, we are rising again, and the future looks a lot better, they are the things to concentrate on now, and all pull together in the same direction
Totally agree with that Selby. The DFP headline doesn't help and only stirs up unnecessary speculation on social media.
We don't need this on the eve of the new season. Focus on the positive.
Couldn't disagree more Baz!
This is positive news, just about the best thing that could have happened to the club in recent years and should rightly be celebrated. His presence around the club was soul destroying for quite a number of staff members and had to be dealt with. Relieving him of the chairmanship had an immediate impact on the playing side of the club and now that he's gone and TB has sole control of the club means investment and progress.
As far as I'm aware he's the only shareholder in the club to ask for his loans to be repaid! We now know where we stand, and its got to be good for DRFC.
many thanks for this insight SM. There was obviously a lot of speculation during his tenure and I assume you couldn’t really say much at the time but he must have been particularly bad if you are celebrating this.
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I find it odd that many who defended his 'leadership' for so long are rejoicing at this.
I wonder at what point in our decade of decline people realised he was part of the problem?
Couldn't agree more.
When a select few were calling out the way the club was ran they were either banned or ridiculed ?
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I find it odd that many who defended his 'leadership' for so long are rejoicing at this.
I wonder at what point in our decade of decline people realised he was part of the problem?
Couldn't agree more.
When a select few were calling out the way the club was ran they were either banned or ridiculed ?
It's often not what you say it's how you say it and some certainly have not said things in the right way.
Clearly the club was going in the wrong direction and lets of people made points to that effect, some in better ways than others.
It's an overwhelming positive though and for us it's all about getting ready for the season ahead and getting back to league 1 and above.
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Good news.
I found Blunt as his name is Blunt.
In the meet the owner meetings he came across as someone with little or no empathy with the fans.
We move on now upwardly. The immediate future is bright the immediate future is Bramall & Baldwin and McCann as manager.
The important thing after TB stands down is the succession of the Club.
We need the ownership to be as genuine as the current one is.
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Brilliant news, he was arguably the biggest factor of where we find ourselves today in my opinion, & that short statement says it all. Bye bye Blunt, well done the club.
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It is over and we move on, making it an issue now like it is being shown on here is just giving it publicity and making it an issue that serves no purpose.
It's finished let it go, nobody or the club comes out with any gain apart from him leaving, for the club now to gain traction and like the fire starter it is best to learn lessons and put it in the bin of history, and put it along with the other poor owner history the club have been unfortunate to have had in the past.
We are still here, we are rising again, and the future looks a lot better, they are the things to concentrate on now, and all pull together in the same direction
Totally agree with that Selby. The DFP headline doesn't help and only stirs up unnecessary speculation on social media.
We don't need this on the eve of the new season. Focus on the positive.
Couldn't disagree more Baz!
This is positive news, just about the best thing that could have happened to the club in recent years and should rightly be celebrated. His presence around the club was soul destroying for quite a number of staff members and had to be dealt with. Relieving him of the chairmanship had an immediate impact on the playing side of the club and now that he's gone and TB has sole control of the club means investment and progress.
As far as I'm aware he's the only shareholder in the club to ask for his loans to be repaid! We now know where we stand, and its got to be good for DRFC.
I know the news is positive however, folks interpreatation together with the DFP reference to the 'terse' statement is breeding negative conspiracy theories about the past, rather than looking forward to the positives.
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Totally agree that we look forward now, but it’s nice to start to understand why the horrific decline started, and in certain games (v Perterborough 0-4 being the most obvious, as well as other games), the players actually stopped trying, which I’d never ever seen before (not even in ‘98, even down at Exeter in a 5-1 loss there was effort)
So now it seems it was Blunt running the show into the ground. Good Riddance, you’re right up there with Richardson.
Thank god for TB! Let’s give League 2 Hell, starting Saturday.
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Always thought he must have some naughty pictures of TB as the reason for him being kept in position for so long, maybe TB’s managed to recover them now!
;) :lol:
I think it was an associative from Keepmoat Days, Blunt had been the CEO and did well financially after the French takeover , he left in a hurry a few years later , and has set up some failed Companies, since! He seems to have done well out of being a Racehorse owner though.
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Which is a good thing
How is this better .. what is the options open for the long term for the club . Clearly a one man owner can’t ( in his 80s) be looking to continue for many seasons without a plan B . I very much doubt when Terry joined the club he had envisaged this and be the only person fully responsible for the survival of what is now ‘Club Doncaster’ and all this entails. Q) why has no one ever publicly wanted to get involved in investing as possible owner !
You can go back to just having (wrongful) digs at Gavin again
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I wonder if Andy Watson could be persuaded to return to the board after his hiatus. I’m sure succession planning is happening behind the scenes but given Andy’s history and that of his late dads, would be a good fit in my book and may need to be explored.
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I find it odd that many who defended his 'leadership' for so long are rejoicing at this.
I wonder at what point in our decade of decline people realised he was part of the problem?
Couldn't agree more.
When a select few were calling out the way the club was ran they were either banned or ridiculed ?
What I remember is TB being defended against unnecessary shit being thrown at him instead of at Blunt, not Blunt being defended.
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I wonder if Andy Watson could be persuaded to return to the board after his hiatus. I’m sure succession planning is happening behind the scenes but given Andy’s history and that of his late dads, would be a good fit in my book and may need to be explored.
This won’t happen.
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Going back to the MTO evening it sounded then that TB doesn’t want anymore chefs in the kitchen. Now that Blunt has gone it’s much more straight forward making decisions and that’s only going to benefit everybody.
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I find it odd that many who defended his 'leadership' for so long are rejoicing at this.
I wonder at what point in our decade of decline people realised he was part of the problem?
Couldn't agree more.
When a select few were calling out the way the club was ran they were either banned or ridiculed ?
What I remember is TB being defended against unnecessary shit being thrown at him instead of at Blunt, not Blunt being defended.
Sorry, but I don't remember it being like that.
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David Blunt was definitely defended by some on here.
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Always thought he must have some naughty pictures of TB as the reason for him being kept in position for so long, maybe TB’s managed to recover them now!
;) :lol:
What like Pics of Terry in a Rotherham shirt?
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I would hope the next aim,although a hard task,is for TB to find someone who can be trusted and put the clubs well being first,like himself,DW and JR did/do but younger to keep the Rovers flag flying high,don't want us to suffer serious decline after(God forbid) losing our true benefactor like Wigan,Blackburn etc,and possibly bring investment in short term.
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One thing I will say, it feels like we have got our club back. It's not just about promotion for me, but being entertained. With McCann we have that in abundance. Roll on Saturday ⚽️
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David Blunt was definitely defended by some on here.
"If Blunt leaves so will T.Bramall"
I think your memory is playing tricks on you.
The attacks, for quite a long time, were focussed on Gavin, and it was him that was being defended with talk of TB walking away if GB was forced to leave. As we said at the time GB was central to the success of Club Doncaster and Terry trusted him implicitly. We said, and its all documented, that our support was for Terry as the owner of the club and Gavin as the CEO. That was our position then and has always been.
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You did say If Blunt left Terry would walk.
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You did say If Blunt left Terry would walk.
He didn't put it that way. What SM was trying to get folk to understand, was for good or for bad, TB installed DB as Chairman and entrusted him to run the club.
Hounding TB and GB, (inc images of GB on the Netto banners) before some folk switched their attention to DB, wasn't the most intelligent thing to do.
SM hinted sometime ago that changes were on the horizon, but it might take time, but the 'Sack the board' chants continued.
On recruitment, it was bizarre. If the manager of the day made a good signing then it was credit to them but if those turned out to be poor, then it was the board, DB or GBs fault.
Whilst there was plenty to be concerned about, there were some wild and unfounded accusations which were challenged, and if that's defending, then so be it.
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
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David Blunt was definitely defended by some on here.
"If Blunt leaves so will T.Bramall"
I think your memory is playing tricks on you.
It’s
The attacks, for quite a long time, were focussed on Gavin, and it was him that was being defended with talk of TB walking away if GB was forced to leave. As we said at the time GB was central to the success of Club Doncaster and Terry trusted him implicitly. We said, and its all documented, that our support was for Terry as the owner of the club and Gavin as the CEO. That was our position then and has always been.
There was a presentation of Blunt directing the strategy and in sole control of the “football side” and GB concentrating on the cash cow, Club Doncaster. It seems now that this may well have been something of a smokescreen to cover the fact that perhaps DB resisted Gavin’s involvement.
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
Post it up then
You wrote it on this forum. I recall it due to me thinking what a mess we are in if Terry left.
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
Post it up then
You wrote it on this forum. I recall it due to me thinking what a mess we are in if Terry left.
Surely it’s for you to post it up? You’re the one making the accusation, just back it up!!
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
Post it up then
You wrote it on this forum. I recall it due to me thinking what a mess we are in if Terry left.
Surely it’s for you to post it up? You’re the one making the accusation, just back it up!!
I would if you didn't edit your posts to suit. :byebye:
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I think the onus is on you Batley. You are the one making the allegation. It's upto you to prove you're not fantasising or misremembering or stirring. Until then, in the face of the very clear and unequivocal statement by a man with a stellar reputation, your suggestion, honestly, doesn't hold water.
When you post the proof I'm sure everyone will recognise the value of the contribution. .
Cheers!
.BobG
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Does it really matter if he did or didn't say it?
I've seen Martin get dogs abuse on social media for years which is totally uncalled for.
It's the eve of a brand new season, one where the club finds itself in a fantastic position to lay waste to this division.
Everything about the club is now solid, let's keep it positive and keep last seasons momentum going rather than looking back at bad times and who said this and that.
Put your energy into supporting the club and try to bring a friend who has never been or hasn't been for a while.
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We’ve for the time being got everything aligned - engaged owner, excellent CEO and superb management team. As ever could do with more people through the gate, but this is a good time at Rovers.
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Let's see how we go with the handbrake off, I'm looking forward to this.
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
Post it up then
You wrote it on this forum. I recall it due to me thinking what a mess we are in if Terry left.
Surely it’s for you to post it up? You’re the one making the accusation, just back it up!!
I actually thought the same and was sure I'd seen words to that effect before. There is a search function on this site, though, and I couldn't find it so looks like I was also wrong.
There is this from a couple of years ago, though, which although it's not that explicit it does intimate much the same thing - that they come as a package.
Thankfully something shifted and TB changed his mind. Onwards and upwards.
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=283953.msg1134699#msg1134699
Remember Terry has had DB at his side for more years than I'm sure he wants to remember and they built a very successful business between them. He's not going to give him the elbow just so he can keep a few kids or disgruntled supporters happy. He trusts him implicitly.
They are a team, simple as. TB is never going to start recruiting new Chairmen and CEO's at his time in life.
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
Post it up then
You wrote it on this forum. I recall it due to me thinking what a mess we are in if Terry left.
Surely it’s for you to post it up? You’re the one making the accusation, just back it up!!
I actually thought the same and was sure I'd seen words to that effect before. There is a search function on this site, though, and I couldn't find it so looks like I was also wrong.
There is this from a couple of years ago, though, which although it's not that explicit it does intimate much the same thing - that they come as a package.
Thankfully something shifted and TB changed his mind. Onwards and upwards.
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=283953.msg1134699#msg1134699
Remember Terry has had DB at his side for more years than I'm sure he wants to remember and they built a very successful business between them. He's not going to give him the elbow just so he can keep a few kids or disgruntled supporters happy. He trusts him implicitly.
They are a team, simple as. TB is never going to start recruiting new Chairmen and CEO's at his time in life.
I stand by that, but you have to read the rest of that thread to understand its context, one where TB is being encouraged to stay but to get rid of Gavin and DB and recruit a new chair and CEO.
And here's another thread that I started in March 2023 which again reinforces my point;
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=
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SM's words we're Blunt goes Terry goes be careful what you wish for.
I hope you can back that up.
Because, as I mentioned before, I have documented evidence that shows that’s not the case.
Post it up then
You wrote it on this forum. I recall it due to me thinking what a mess we are in if Terry left.
Surely it’s for you to post it up? You’re the one making the accusation, just back it up!!
I actually thought the same and was sure I'd seen words to that effect before. There is a search function on this site, though, and I couldn't find it so looks like I was also wrong.
There is this from a couple of years ago, though, which although it's not that explicit it does intimate much the same thing - that they come as a package.
Thankfully something shifted and TB changed his mind. Onwards and upwards.
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=283953.msg1134699#msg1134699
Remember Terry has had DB at his side for more years than I'm sure he wants to remember and they built a very successful business between them. He's not going to give him the elbow just so he can keep a few kids or disgruntled supporters happy. He trusts him implicitly.
They are a team, simple as. TB is never going to start recruiting new Chairmen and CEO's at his time in life.
Exactly. SMs not exactly defending DB is he. It's not a secret that S_M didnt hold much of a candle for DB and would have preferred Watson junior for new enthusiasm and broader appeal until circumstances changed.
Anyway, as predicted, this threads got out of hand. We're all heading in the right direction now.
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Interesting that there has been no mention of the "Netto brigade" in all of this. Maybe they were right all along? :chair: :chair:
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Thank God there's an actual football match for us all to fall out over later! ;)
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Interesting that there has been no mention of the "Netto brigade" in all of this. Maybe they were right all along? :chair: :chair:
Actually they made it worse by focusing on Gavin! Pictures of him on a flag just diverted attention away from the real problem which just helped prolong the issue. At the same time TB had to reconsider his approach to the club because, as I’ve pointed out before, he had confidence in his choice of CEO.
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None of it matters now. The past is cast, the future to be written and right now is the only reality we have, and it’s a good reality.
Let’s get after it, Rovers.