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Title: Never been a red
Post by: Ryaldinhio on February 18, 2025, 10:24:56 pm
Not two footed.

One in front one behind

Feet on the floor

Not dangerous, nor out of control

Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: GazLaz on February 18, 2025, 11:07:42 pm
Absolute stone wall reflection from the poor replay I’ve seen.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Ryaldinhio on February 18, 2025, 11:11:34 pm
Absolute stone wall reflection from the poor replay I’ve seen.

I will have another look tomorrow Gaz
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 18, 2025, 11:40:17 pm
Only saw one replay but it looked to me like Senior went in low, got the ball and their lad went over the ball and fell.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Move DRFC on February 19, 2025, 01:42:22 am
Definitely a red. Maybe if he connected with the ball you could have a case. Lunged in right through matey boy and the ball didn't move an inch. Reckless.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Padge_DRFC on February 19, 2025, 06:19:48 am
The fact it's a debate means there's zero chance of it being overturned. It wasn't great and it was stupid really as well.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: donnievic on February 19, 2025, 07:23:50 am
Dangerous tackle end of,whether people say he won the ball or not didn’t go in with studs showing but he has gone straight through from behind.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Cramby10 on February 19, 2025, 07:38:39 am
He shouldn’t have given the ref a decision to make in the first place. There was no danger. We know the refs are shite so why give them any chance to brandish the card. It was brainless. It was also a correct decision on this occasion, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Filo on February 19, 2025, 08:10:16 am
It’s so frustrating, we’ve had two nailed on red cards for the opposition in the last two home games, right in front of the Fourth Official and not even a yellow card given, they were loads worse than that last night, which I thought was a tough but fair tackle
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: jamesrover17 on February 19, 2025, 08:11:00 am
Slow motion replays always make things look a little bit better I have found, but when I first saw it, admittedly on an iPad screen from the corner of my eye, I thought red card, could you blame the pitch? Possibly, but that won't get it overturned.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: colincramb on February 19, 2025, 08:15:08 am
It was an out of control lunge. It’s a red card an no complaints.

McCann looked furious. With good reason as well because there was no justification to do that kind of tackle in that area of the pitch at that moment of the game. Very nearly cost us 2 points
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: i_ateallthepies on February 19, 2025, 08:17:57 am
Dangerous tackle end of,whether people say he won the ball or not didn’t go in with studs showing but he has gone straight through from behind.

You need glasses if you think that was from behind.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 19, 2025, 08:20:16 am
Yes, it's hard to argue with the decision.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Move DRFC on February 19, 2025, 08:24:36 am
Morecambe commentator said McCann didn’t look at Senior as he walked past him. Can’t have been impressed.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: ForsolongaRover on February 19, 2025, 08:39:54 am
It’s so frustrating, we’ve had two nailed on red cards for the opposition in the last two home games, right in front of the Fourth Official and not even a yellow card given, they were loads worse than that last night, which I thought was a tough but fair tackle

I must say that I can’t remember any tackles worse than in what was a pretty clean game.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Ryaldinhio on February 19, 2025, 08:40:16 am
I've watched this back a dozen times and it is not a red card.

If Seniors tackle was against one of ours I would not be calling for a sending off.

In fact if you watch it the Morecambe player stamps into the tackle which is worse than what senior did.

Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: andyst79 on February 19, 2025, 08:49:04 am
I'd debate it even being a yellow nevermind a red, looked an honest challenge to me
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Jersey Rover on February 19, 2025, 09:00:34 am
Think it’s worth an appeal. 50 50 for me, never a 3 game ban
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 19, 2025, 09:01:17 am
Morecambe commentator said McCann didn’t look at Senior as he walked past him. Can’t have been impressed.
I think that was more because the challenge wasn't necessary, not because of the way Senior made the challenge.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 19, 2025, 09:09:53 am
I've just watched the incident in slow motion and the Morecambe player lunged in with a raised foot. Maybe if anyone, HE should have been the one sent off!

https://youtu.be/aYDmWk2KRK4?si=UOY6LACNLKST1l7a&t=111

Yep, a definite stamp by the Morecambe player.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: 5minstogo on February 19, 2025, 09:17:09 am
Gave the ref a decision to make. Unnecessary force. Won't be appealed
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Northants Nomad on February 19, 2025, 09:23:44 am
Red. Wreckless and stupid. With Maxwell out, that lad had a chance to stake a claim and make that spot his, and he was doing a decent job until that. Whether he meant anything malicious or not, to come in at that speed from that angle and give the referee a decision to make was silly, and with us 1 up just put us under unnecessary pressure.
Silly boy. Darn right Grant was livid.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 19, 2025, 09:54:36 am
Senior didn't have to go in like that, and if he hadn't, the ref wouldn't have made a wrong decision.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: donnievic on February 19, 2025, 09:56:07 am
It’s so frustrating, we’ve had two nailed on red cards for the opposition in the last two home games, right in front of the Fourth Official and not even a yellow card given, they were loads worse than that last night, which I thought was a tough but fair tackle
anyone that doesn’t thinks it’s a red card try going on a ref’s course,fair challenge yes 20 years ago
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: oggycompton on February 19, 2025, 09:56:29 am
Definitly a red. Any time you give a referee the opportuinty to make a decision then you are always open to a red card. To do it miles away from your own goal under no threat it all is absolute stupidity, no other words for it.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 19, 2025, 09:57:20 am
Definitly a red. Any time you give a referee the opportuinty to make a decision then you are always open to a red card. To do it miles away from your own goal under no threat it all is absolute stupidity, no other words for it.
Red to which player?
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: oggycompton on February 19, 2025, 10:23:35 am
Definitly a red. Any time you give a referee the opportuinty to make a decision then you are always open to a red card. To do it miles away from your own goal under no threat it all is absolute stupidity, no other words for it.
Red to which player?


errrr the one that made the stupid challenge...in blue
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 19, 2025, 10:31:10 am
Definitly a red. Any time you give a referee the opportuinty to make a decision then you are always open to a red card. To do it miles away from your own goal under no threat it all is absolute stupidity, no other words for it.
Red to which player?


errrr the one that made the stupid challenge...in blue
Not the one in red who stamped on the player in blue?
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: oggycompton on February 19, 2025, 10:33:04 am
Definitly a red. Any time you give a referee the opportuinty to make a decision then you are always open to a red card. To do it miles away from your own goal under no threat it all is absolute stupidity, no other words for it.
Red to which player?


errrr the one that made the stupid challenge...in blue
Not the one in red who stamped on the player in blue?

Literally the only person on the planet who has managed to see Senior at no fault and their player at fault. I think I'll leave this conversation there.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 19, 2025, 10:37:40 am
Have you read what I've said about Senior's involvement?

There are about 4 or 5 posters on this thread who quite literally think Senior did nothing illegal, never mind the whole planet!
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Avsuptem on February 19, 2025, 10:39:25 am
Definitly a red. Any time you give a referee the opportuinty to make a decision then you are always open to a red card. To do it miles away from your own goal under no threat it all is absolute stupidity, no other words for it.
Red to which player?


errrr the one that made the stupid challenge...in blue
Not the one in red who stamped on the player in blue?

Literally the only person on the planet who has managed to see Senior at no fault and their player at fault. I think I'll leave this conversation there.

Not the only one, me aswell.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Prez on February 19, 2025, 11:24:49 am
1985 play on.

2025 red card.

Senior was naive. You cant challenge like that scissor motion in the modern game. I do have a little sympathy for him as he went for the ball (and got it) but youre asking for trouble going in like that.

Thank God it didnt cost us because apart from Edwards who they brought on, they were horrific.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: i_ateallthepies on February 19, 2025, 02:14:52 pm
There was a challenge earlier in the game where one of there players flew into a challenge, high foot and studs first.  Not a word from the ref.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Avsuptem on February 19, 2025, 04:31:35 pm
Our Manager calls for total commitment to the cause and when one of our players shows exactly that he gets slagged off by our own supporters. Jeez !
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Filo on February 19, 2025, 04:51:21 pm
Not changed my opinion, it wasn’t a red card, there’s an argument for a yellow because Seniors trailing leg brings him down, the highest foot was their player which involved a stamp as he tried the swivel on the ball 
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: weststander on February 19, 2025, 04:56:46 pm
No appeal by the club
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Upton Rover on February 19, 2025, 06:16:50 pm
Stonewaller
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 19, 2025, 08:38:07 pm
Ok. Seeing the replay again, that's a definite red.

He's not caught their lad with his tackling foot, but sweeping through him with his other leg is very dangerous. Could easily have been a bad ankle or  knee injury.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 19, 2025, 09:08:20 pm
1985 play on.

2025 red card.

Senior was naive. You cant challenge like that scissor motion in the modern game. I do have a little sympathy for him as he went for the ball (and got it) but youre asking for trouble going in like that.

Thank God it didnt cost us because apart from Edwards who they brought on, they were horrific.

He was overenthusiastic shall we say but it wasn't a deliberate effort to injure a player, just to win the ball.

I'm sure McCann and his teammates were sympathetic to him after the match. Many of them being sent off in similar circumstances at some point.

I think we're justified in having no sympathy with those sent off for petulance when kicking the ball away etc.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: EasyforDennis on February 20, 2025, 03:59:40 pm
Watch the video of the sending off, and then tell me, was it a foul by Senior or a stamp by the Morecombe player.

If it had been the other way around, would the home team have received a red card or a yellow?

Also, why was Bailey given a yellow card for a high boot and then the Morecambe player with an even higher boot given nothing!!!
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: ForsolongaRover on February 20, 2025, 05:44:18 pm
Watch the video of the sending off, and then tell me, was it a foul by Senior or a stamp by the Morecombe player.

If it had been the other way around, would the home team have received a red card or a yellow?

Also, why was Bailey given a yellow card for a high boot and then the Morecambe player with an even higher boot given nothing!!!

As technology advances, will AI replace referees and will football fans still complain that their team is hard done by?
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 20, 2025, 06:11:33 pm
Watch the video of the sending off, and then tell me, was it a foul by Senior or a stamp by the Morecombe player.

If it had been the other way around, would the home team have received a red card or a yellow?

Also, why was Bailey given a yellow card for a high boot and then the Morecambe player with an even higher boot given nothing!!!
Yep, a definite stamp by the Morecambe player.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: PDX_Rover on February 20, 2025, 10:03:16 pm
I've just watched the incident in slow motion and the Morecambe player lunged in with a raised foot. Maybe if anyone, HE should have been the one sent off!

https://youtu.be/aYDmWk2KRK4?si=UOY6LACNLKST1l7a&t=111

Yep, a definite stamp by the Morecambe player.


Good spot BB. The Morecambe lad definitely went over the ball and stamped.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: donnievic on February 20, 2025, 11:48:09 pm
Watch the video of the sending off, and then tell me, was it a foul by Senior or a stamp by the Morecombe player.

If it had been the other way around, would the home team have received a red card or a yellow?

Also, why was Bailey given a yellow card for a high boot and then the Morecambe player with an even higher boot given nothing!!!
bailey got a yellow for kicking the ball away
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: GazLaz on February 21, 2025, 09:55:23 am
It wasn’t a stamp. He was putting his foot over the ball to protect it when he saw Senior coming.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Metalmicky on February 21, 2025, 10:45:02 am
3 game ban for Senior...

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-discover-length-of-jack-senior-ban-after-morecambe-red-card-5001398
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 21, 2025, 11:38:52 am
Ffs! That seems harsh. So are they classing that as violent conduct??
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: donnievic on February 21, 2025, 02:22:31 pm
Ffs! That seems harsh. So are they classing that as violent conduct??
harsh!!!it’s was always going to be 3 match as its a standard straight red card for a foul that isn’t for DOGSO
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 21, 2025, 09:28:12 pm
It wasn’t a stamp. He was putting his foot over the ball to protect it when he saw Senior coming.
It WAS a stamp all day long. The Morecambe player stamped his left foot on Senior after he'd lost possession of the ball.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: NickDRFC on February 21, 2025, 09:58:37 pm
It wasn’t a stamp. He was putting his foot over the ball to protect it when he saw Senior coming.
It WAS a stamp all day long. The Morecambe player stamped his left foot on Senior after he'd lost possession of the ball.

Anyone else read this as though it was written whilst stamping feet as well?
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: EasyforDennis on February 22, 2025, 09:35:10 am
It wasn’t a stamp. He was putting his foot over the ball to protect it when he saw Senior coming.

Going in for a tackle with your foot over the ball is a sending off offence. Make your mind up.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: ncRover on February 22, 2025, 01:07:32 pm
Jack if you’re reading this, don’t change.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: MachoMadness on February 22, 2025, 04:59:09 pm
Can we reuse this thread for today's red card?
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Fal on February 22, 2025, 05:00:52 pm
Another one that’s never a red, referee very card happy it seems today.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: karldew on February 22, 2025, 05:14:44 pm
How was Whalley not given a red for the reaction on Sterry??
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: andyst79 on February 22, 2025, 05:16:58 pm
How was Whalley not given a red for the reaction on Sterry??
Cos Sterry didn't roll about on the floor like a tart
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Usher wide. on February 22, 2025, 05:19:02 pm
How was Whalley not given a red for the reaction on Sterry??

By reaction do you mean stamp. THAT was your red card right there.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: i_ateallthepies on February 22, 2025, 05:43:03 pm
How was Whalley not given a red for the reaction on Sterry??

By reaction do you mean stamp. THAT was your red card right there.

I thought it was a kick whilst they were both tangled on the ground, a total sending off offence.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: karldew on February 22, 2025, 06:33:57 pm
How was Whalley not given a red for the reaction on Sterry??

By reaction do you mean stamp. THAT was your red card right there.

I thought it was a kick whilst they were both tangled on the ground, a total sending off offence.

Yes, he kicked out at Sterry and only got a yellow.

It was the same with the big lad (elbow) for Morecambe on Tuesday. You either get no booking if the ref/lino missed it or a red if the incident is seen, both got yellows?
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Avsuptem on February 22, 2025, 07:26:28 pm
Violent conduct. Red card.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: Ian Nimmo on February 22, 2025, 07:43:28 pm
Definitely Whaley kicked sterry, noticed how quickly walked away from sterry, he must have thought that one of the officials must have seen it.
Yet again another ref, only 2nd or 3rd game in efl, who made some strange decisions.
Title: Re: Never been a red
Post by: donnievic on February 22, 2025, 07:44:07 pm
How was Whalley not given a red for the reaction on Sterry??

By reaction do you mean stamp. THAT was your red card right there.

I thought it was a kick whilst they were both tangled on the ground, a total sending off offence.

Yes, he kicked out at Sterry and only got a yellow.

It was the same with the big lad (elbow) for Morecambe on Tuesday. You either get no booking if the ref/lino missed it or a red if the incident is seen, both got yellows?
not seen any replays but looked as bough whalley kicked out,can’t tell from view regarding red card but did look as though he lunged in but going back to Tuesday their big lad caution wasn’t a elbow