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In the public sector (where I have spent most of my working life - 35 yrs in total) all the applicants would be able bring a charge under the Equal Opportunities Act if it could be proved the correct shortlisting had not been done.
No conspiracy theory. How does anyone know who the best candidate is for any job unless shortlisting/interviews are carried out.In the public sector (where I have spent most of my working life - 35 yrs in total) all the applicants would be able bring a charge under the Equal Opportunities Act if it could be proved the correct shortlisting had not been done. Not saying for a minute this should happen at a football club, but how do we know the best candidate got the job?Cheapest option IMO, to which I am entitled
Quote from: mrfrostsdad on February 14, 2013, 10:39:51 pmNo conspiracy theory. How does anyone know who the best candidate is for any job unless shortlisting/interviews are carried out.In the public sector (where I have spent most of my working life - 35 yrs in total) all the applicants would be able bring a charge under the Equal Opportunities Act if it could be proved the correct shortlisting had not been done. Not saying for a minute this should happen at a football club, but how do we know the best candidate got the job?Cheapest option IMO, to which I am entitledCan you justify the 'cheapest option' statement?DRFC have a figure which managers at this club earn. That sum of money was available to whoever became the manager, or do you think that they are still paying him his scouting salary? I can assure you that's not the case so how is it a cheap option?
Quote from: silent majority on February 15, 2013, 03:44:34 pmQuote from: mrfrostsdad on February 14, 2013, 10:39:51 pmNo conspiracy theory. How does anyone know who the best candidate is for any job unless shortlisting/interviews are carried out.In the public sector (where I have spent most of my working life - 35 yrs in total) all the applicants would be able bring a charge under the Equal Opportunities Act if it could be proved the correct shortlisting had not been done. Not saying for a minute this should happen at a football club, but how do we know the best candidate got the job?Cheapest option IMO, to which I am entitledCan you justify the 'cheapest option' statement?DRFC have a figure which managers at this club earn. That sum of money was available to whoever became the manager, or do you think that they are still paying him his scouting salary? I can assure you that's not the case so how is it a cheap option?Maybe cheaper than paying compensation to another club for their manager.
Quote from: silent majority on February 15, 2013, 03:44:34 pmQuote from: mrfrostsdad on February 14, 2013, 10:39:51 pmNo conspiracy theory. How does anyone know who the best candidate is for any job unless shortlisting/interviews are carried out.In the public sector (where I have spent most of my working life - 35 yrs in total) all the applicants would be able bring a charge under the Equal Opportunities Act if it could be proved the correct shortlisting had not been done. Not saying for a minute this should happen at a football club, but how do we know the best candidate got the job?Cheapest option IMO, to which I am entitledCan you justify the 'cheapest option' statement?DRFC have a figure which managers at this club earn. That sum of money was available to whoever became the manager, or do you think that they are still paying him his scouting salary? I can assure you that's not the case so how is it a cheap option?Come off it S.M. I'd be amazed if Flynn wasnt the cheapest option, when you take into account compensation packages to bring in another manager etc.
In hindsight a monthly rolling contract may have been the best option.
Quote from: grayx on February 15, 2013, 05:57:56 pmIn hindsight a monthly rolling contract may have been the best option.But then that goes against the whole point of is appointment in the first place (stability)... Can't have stability for the rest of the season if nobody knows whether he's actually going to be here from 1 month until the next.His contract is the perfect length.
Quote from: Belle Vue Popside on February 15, 2013, 06:00:52 pmQuote from: grayx on February 15, 2013, 05:57:56 pmIn hindsight a monthly rolling contract may have been the best option.But then that goes against the whole point of is appointment in the first place (stability)... Can't have stability for the rest of the season if nobody knows whether he's actually going to be here from 1 month until the next.His contract is the perfect length.I disagree. What point is stability if its unsuccessful?If he'd been given a monthly rolling contract and results were ok he'd no doubt have been here til the end of the season anyway.
Quote from: grayx on February 15, 2013, 04:53:28 pmQuote from: silent majority on February 15, 2013, 03:44:34 pmQuote from: mrfrostsdad on February 14, 2013, 10:39:51 pmNo conspiracy theory. How does anyone know who the best candidate is for any job unless shortlisting/interviews are carried out.In the public sector (where I have spent most of my working life - 35 yrs in total) all the applicants would be able bring a charge under the Equal Opportunities Act if it could be proved the correct shortlisting had not been done. Not saying for a minute this should happen at a football club, but how do we know the best candidate got the job?Cheapest option IMO, to which I am entitledCan you justify the 'cheapest option' statement?DRFC have a figure which managers at this club earn. That sum of money was available to whoever became the manager, or do you think that they are still paying him his scouting salary? I can assure you that's not the case so how is it a cheap option?Come off it S.M. I'd be amazed if Flynn wasnt the cheapest option, when you take into account compensation packages to bring in another manager etc.And what about all those managers that applied for the job who we wouldn't have to pay compensation to? Money was not a factor in this decision at all, therefore if it was the cheapest option then it wasn't even considered as an option.So be amazed!
When I said 'cheapest option' I didn't mean he would get paid less than any other manager, what I meant was, any other established manager (and there are plenty out of work at the moment - hence why we got over 100 applicants - many 'high profile ones' according to JR) would have wanted money to strengthen our small squad, especially now with 3 of our best players out.It seems no money is available. Can't see a Mark Robins, Owen Coyle or anyone coming in with no money to spend
Money is available and always has been. But the game of football has changed and transfer fees don't feature any more. If by 'money available' you mean transfer fees then you may be right, but its wages which are key, you need deep pockets for some of the players we are asking for. Mark Robins et al all understand that. So, I am repeating myself but he wasn't the cheapest option and I guarantee that most of the managers out of those who applied would jump at coming to a club so well run.And I'll give you an example, how did Mark Robins end up at Coventry? Do you think he's had a pot money available there, or did he have a smaller budget than he would have if he'd arrived at the Keepmoat? In that respect Robins would have been a cheaper option than Flynn.
Quote from: silent majority on February 16, 2013, 02:41:02 pmMoney is available and always has been. But the game of football has changed and transfer fees don't feature any more. If by 'money available' you mean transfer fees then you may be right, but its wages which are key, you need deep pockets for some of the players we are asking for. Mark Robins et al all understand that. So, I am repeating myself but he wasn't the cheapest option and I guarantee that most of the managers out of those who applied would jump at coming to a club so well run.And I'll give you an example, how did Mark Robins end up at Coventry? Do you think he's had a pot money available there, or did he have a smaller budget than he would have if he'd arrived at the Keepmoat? In that respect Robins would have been a cheaper option than Flynn.Robins would have been a cheaper option than Flynn?I think not.
No hoola, not suggesting a change now. We need to stick with what we've got now. But we need two midfielders and a striker (IMO) and quick! Looks like Syers and Hume are still out, and Brown and Griffin
Quote from: mrfrostsdad on February 16, 2013, 05:21:39 pmNo hoola, not suggesting a change now. We need to stick with what we've got now. But we need two midfielders and a striker (IMO) and quick! Looks like Syers and Hume are still out, and Brown and GriffinSyers and Hume back for Yeovil, two midfielders and a striker to come in.
Quote from: silent majority on February 16, 2013, 05:23:49 pmQuote from: mrfrostsdad on February 16, 2013, 05:21:39 pmNo hoola, not suggesting a change now. We need to stick with what we've got now. But we need two midfielders and a striker (IMO) and quick! Looks like Syers and Hume are still out, and Brown and GriffinSyers and Hume back for Yeovil, two midfielders and a striker to come in. Lovely when will the names be announced martin ?
Well if it's half as good as the other signings we've made this season we'll be fine. I just wonder if we'll be getting a striker who's a 'goal machine'..