cheeky Poles

[RedJ]

Welbeck missed a chance even Kitson would have put away. The Kitson.

[Chris Black come back]

Rubbish anthem anyway.. why is it Great Britains and Englands anthem?

We should have Jerusalem

Why Jerusalem? Its a little town in the middle east?!? We gave it to the Jews to create Israel. Why would you want that as our national Anthem?

Strictly speaking "we" (as in the UN) agreed in 1947 that in establishing a Jewish homeland, Jerusalem would remain under the control of an international mandate and not by what would become the state of Israel. It was actually under the control of the Arab community (specifically Jordan) until 1967.

Strictly speaking? Why is Israel now considered a european country as its in the middle of Arab lands? The poor Jews refinanced us after the 2nd world war and chose their new homeland, Palestine, as its new homeland.It is not the promised land as described in the Torah, it has no mountains and fresh water and is nothing like the compared promised land of the Torah.
Still why would we use Jerusalem as our National Anthem?

"We" didn't give Jerusalem to "the Jews" to create Israel. A national homeland for the Jewish people was agreed by the UN General Assembly in 1947. This did not include Jerusalem as a part of the proposed state for the Jewish people. Therefore nobody gave Jerusalem to anyone. In fact, quite the contrary. It was, according to the 1947 UN agreement, to exist under international control and not as a part of either a Jewish or Arab state.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Noisy buggers. I remember when England fans used to make that sort of racket. Have we gone soft?

[IDM]

the song "Jerusalem" has got f**k all to do with the events in Palestine/Israel of the 20th Century.  It is about Christianity and England.

Anyway, the national anthem should be On Ilkely Moor, or summat like that

[vaya]

'Jerusalem' is also a slightly veiled attack on increased industrialisation.

The national anthem should be the Benny Hill theme tune. Everyone could get involved then, and it'd liven up the pre-match routine.

[BobG]

Why do we have to have a national anthem at all? Pointless, jingoistic nationalism. Completely out of place in what we are forever being told is a connected world.

BobG

[Dagenham Rover]

"And did those Feet" is actually a short poem by William Blake  wrote in 1804-1808  The music to this was composed by Sir Hubert Parry in 1916.
The poem is based on the unknown years of Jesus referred to in the book of Revelations when Jesus is thought to have visited England

Its jack all to do with modern day Jerusalem and Jerusalem  in this context is basically an anthem title

[Viking Don]

"And did those Feet" is actually a short poem by William Blake  wrote in 1804-1808  The music to this was composed by Sir Hubert Parry in 1916.
The poem is based on the unknown years of Jesus referred to in the book of Revelations when Jesus is thought to have visited England

Its jack all to do with modern day Jerusalem and Jerusalem  in this context is basically an anthem title

Yep didn't He get married to Mary in the inflatable church at Glastonbury?

[wilts rover]

I think Jerusalem is a very apt anthem for the England football team. It is written by a dreamer about things which didn't happen - and are not going to happen - and that is a perfect summary of our chances at any major tournament.
Blake, who from his writings appears to have known where the best crops of magic mushrooms were located (and thus would have had a fun time in the inflatable church at Glastonbury) thought England was so great Jesus must have visited. If only managers in the 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's had been brave enough to pick him in central midfield we might have done better, unfortunately the closest we got was Hoddle - oh and quite a few more players who were crucified by fans and press at the time.
Blake then goes on to say that this horrible, unhygienic, stinking and disease ridden source of all the wealth that is making this the great country it is (for that read - north of England) will obviously one day be swept away and replaced with a mystical land of sun, milk and honey, etc - something which is clearly not going to happen but doesn't stop him believing it if he wants to. Which will be the sum of all newspaper reports of England's Brazil campaign from now until we get knocked out next June.
Perfect anthem - for the England football team and the Tory party.

[SoundbiteBarmyArmy]

and throwing flares on the pitch to boot

We did that at Brentford. It worked a treat!

 

[River Don]

Our anthem should be 'Land of hope and glory'.

Apparently when it got it's first airing in the Albert Hall, the audience reaction was likened not to a cheer but a scream. And these were straight laced Victorians remember.

[River Don]

So long as there's popadums and mango chutney I'm in!
 

Nowt more English is there? Though I go for lime pickle myself, something of an acquired taste I grant you.

[coventryrover]

I think Jerusalem is a very apt anthem for the England football team. It is written by a dreamer about things which didn't happen - and are not going to happen - and that is a perfect summary of our chances at any major tournament.
Blake, who from his writings appears to have known where the best crops of magic mushrooms were located (and thus would have had a fun time in the inflatable church at Glastonbury) thought England was so great Jesus must have visited. If only managers in the 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's had been brave enough to pick him in central midfield we might have done better, unfortunately the closest we got was Hoddle - oh and quite a few more players who were crucified by fans and press at the time.
Blake then goes on to say that this horrible, unhygienic, stinking and disease ridden source of all the wealth that is making this the great country it is (for that read - north of England) will obviously one day be swept away and replaced with a mystical land of sun, milk and honey, etc - something which is clearly not going to happen but doesn't stop him believing it if he wants to. Which will be the sum of all newspaper reports of England's Brazil campaign from now until we get knocked out next June.
Perfect anthem - for the England football team and the Tory party.

YEah that.

Owts better than the droll GSTQ.  Perhaps they should have the Super Furries "The Man DOnt Give a F@@@"

[not on facebook]

Angelic upstarts did a song in very early 1980s called...ENGLAND...

The best song that i have heard that would fit the England football fan
Offical tune.

Beats 3 Lions and vindaloo by a country mile

[River Don]

The only problem with Three Lions is the thirty tears of hurt line keeps getting more and more out of date.

I like the Angelic Upstarts, never heard that before. The phrase "the red, the white and the blue" refers to The Union Flag not the St George. The red, the White and the... White wouldn't quite work though.

[neil grainger]

My best mate at Danum Grammar went on to become bass guitarist with the Angelic Upstarts