New nuclear power station.....

[not on facebook]

Planned to be built in uk by the french or the little  People from china.

Whoever builds it will run it iam lead to Belive.

Now i have no problem with the french or japs or whoever building an running a car plant in the uk,but a necular power station?

Not wanting to point out the obvious ,but surely This job should be done and run by the british government just so you all feal that you can sleep better at night.

[RedJ]

Why would that be then?

[Highland Rover]

Is it me or does the power station seem a bit close to the cliff edge ?

Coastal erosion and all that

[Boomstick]

Planned to be built in uk by the french or the little  People from china.

Whoever builds it will run it iam lead to Belive.

Now i have no problem with the french or japs or whoever building an running a car plant in the uk,but a necular power station?

Not wanting to point out the obvious ,but surely This job should be done and run by the british government just so you all feal that you can sleep better at night.

Why force the British taxpayer to pay for the building of the power station, when you can just get a private firm to do it. It won't cost the tax payer a thing.

[River Don]

It's not really a private firm. EDF Electricite de France is mostly owned by the French government. The Chinese involvement will also be government backed.

Why is the British government not able to invest in British nuclear power but the French and Chinese governments are?

A very sad development considering we opened the worlds first commercial nuclear power plant at Calder Hall.

[IC1967]

Why is the British government not able to invest in British nuclear power but the French and Chinese governments are?

Its because Labour doubled the National Debt when in power and we are totally skint. Who can forget that Labour's outgoing  chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, famously left a note for the new guy saying,  'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left.'

[River Don]

Why is the British government not able to invest in British nuclear power but the French and Chinese governments are?

Its because Labour doubled the National Debt when in power and we are totally skint. Who can forget that Labour's outgoing  chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, famously left a note for the new guy saying,  'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left.'

And the French government isn't totally skint?

Chinas budget deficit reached 9.7% of GDP this year. Higher then the US or Southern Europe. Chinas debt is Now $23 trillion, 200% of GDP.

The world is drowning in debt.

So why can China and France invest in British nuclear power but not the British government?

[Boomstick]

It's not really a private firm. EDF Electricite de France is mostly owned by the French government. The Chinese involvement will also be government backed.

Why is the British government not able to invest in British nuclear power but the French and Chinese governments are?

A very sad development considering we opened the worlds first commercial nuclear power plant at Calder Hall.

I'm not sure their governments involvement is as big as you make out, I also highly doubt French and Chinese taxpayers will be forking out for British power stations. I imagine its funded in full by the private side.
Also - have you been on the moon the past 15 years, I take it you haven't heard about the huge budget deficit caused by labour. The fact is our government can't afford to pay billions on a new power station.

[River Don]

EDF I think is 85% owned by the French government.

I'm guessing because it's nuclear the Chinese government ownership is probably 100%. I could be wrong but I would be surprised.

[wilts rover]

The government debt is less now in real terms than it was in 1953 when Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield was initiated. The reason they are not funding the new Hinckley Point is that this government does not believe in nationalised (government owned) industries, unlike the socialist ones of France & China. Rich private individuals can invest, buy shares, make money from the construction and generation - us poorer ones had better start learning how to make candles.

[IC1967]

The government debt is less now in real terms than it was in 1953 when Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield was initiated. The reason they are not funding the new Hinckley Point is that this government does not believe in nationalised (government owned) industries, unlike the socialist ones of France & China. Rich private individuals can invest, buy shares, make money from the construction and generation - us poorer ones had better start learning how to make candles.

Anyone would think that when our industries were nationalised they were a roaring success to listen to you. The complete opposite is the truth.

I'm quite happy my taxes aren't going to fund this project.

[bobjimwilly]

do people forget about the world recession when the keep banging their anti-labour drum regarding uk debt? oh, and also the fact it the tories have screwed us even more and we're still in debt! 

[IC1967]

do people forget about the world recession when the keep banging their anti-labour drum regarding uk debt? oh, and also the fact it the tories have screwed us even more and we're still in debt! 

I'm afraid Labour doubled the National Debt before the world recession took hold. When it did we were left totally defenceless due to Labour's cataclysmic mismanagement of the economy. It's what they always do. They spend, spend, spend when in power and leave the Tories to clean up the mess.

[River Don]

do people forget about the world recession when the keep banging their anti-labour drum regarding uk debt? oh, and also the fact it the tories have screwed us even more and we're still in debt! 

The Tories have taken us in to much deeper into debt. National debt has doubled under the coalition and it's still growing.

The deficit is starting to look better because they've flogged off Royal Mail to raise some money.

[IC1967]

Here is an out of date website with figures mainly harking back to the end of Labour's reign in power which just proves how reckless they were with spending:

http://www.debtbombshell.com/

[IC1967]

The Tories have taken us in to much deeper into debt. National debt has doubled under the coalition and it's still growing.

The deficit is starting to look better because they've flogged off Royal Mail to raise some money.

They have, but unfortunately it takes a long time to turn the economy around. I think they should have cut much more than they have done but suspect they would have been kicked out of office if they had as the public would not have stood for it. I still blame Labour mainly for our current economic woes.

[BigColSutherland]

For once could this be discussed without descending into my dad's bigger than your dad and it's not my fault it's yours??

[River Don]

For once could this be discussed without descending into my dad's bigger than your dad and it's not my fault it's yours??

That's politics.

[Filo]

Planned to be built in uk by the french or the little  People from china.

Whoever builds it will run it iam lead to Belive.

Now i have no problem with the french or japs or whoever building an running a car plant in the uk,but a necular power station?

Not wanting to point out the obvious ,but surely This job should be done and run by the british government just so you all feal that you can sleep better at night.

Why force the British taxpayer to pay for the building of the power station, when you can just get a private firm to do it. It won't cost the tax payer a thing.

The British tax payer will pay for it by stealth, through massively inflated energy prices!

[not on facebook]

Fcuk me the point i was trying to Get Across About  nuclear power station that has to be built in the ,uk would you not feal alot more at EASE if it was paid for ,built by and run by only british companys

If Owt should go wrong down the line with the line with the power station and thousands Of lives were lost how would it stand if it was built and run by china or france or another other country

[IC1967]

For once could this be discussed without descending into my dad's bigger than your dad and it's not my fault it's yours??

I'm afraid it is very important that people realise just who's fault our economic woes are. Labour would have you believe it was the world recession. While that didn't help, the main reason we are are in economically desperate times is because of Labour's wild overspending over 13 years. So take my advice all you lefties. Never vote Labour again!!!

[River Don]

Fcuk me the point i was trying to Get Across Sibir s nuclear power station has to be built in the uk would you not feal alot more at EASE if it was paid for ,built by and run by only british companys

If Owt should go wrong own the line with the line with the power station and thousands Of lives were lost how would it stand if it was built and run by china or france or another other country

I would be far more confident if the UK nuclear power industry was completely run and controlled by this country.

Safety standards surrounding these proposed new chinese nuclear power stations are not yet clear.

For me it's a matter of national sovereignty. It isn't about the politics of the left or right.

[River Don]

For once could this be discussed without descending into my dad's bigger than your dad and it's not my fault it's yours??

I'm afraid it is very important that people realise just who's fault our economic woes are. Labour would have you believe it was the world recession. While that didn't help, the main reason we are are in economically desperate times is because of Labour's wild overspending over 13 years. So take my advice all you lefties. Never vote Labour again!!!

They are two cheeks of the same arse.

[RedJ]

For once could this be discussed without descending into my dad's bigger than your dad and it's not my fault it's yours??

I'm afraid it is very important that people realise just who's fault our economic woes are. Labour would have you believe it was the world recession. While that didn't help, the main reason we are are in economically desperate times is because of Labour's wild overspending over 13 years. So take my advice all you lefties. Never vote Labour again!!!

So they would be right in having you believe it was a world recession, would they not? because if not, then that's a little contradictory.

[IC1967]

So they would be right in having you believe it was a world recession, would they not? because if not, then that's a little contradictory.

Labour blame the world recession for all our economic woes. It is my contention that this didn't help but Labour are more than 90% to blame.

[RedJ]

So they would be right in having you believe it was a world recession, would they not? because if not, then that's a little contradictory.

Labour blame the world recession for all our economic woes. It is my contention that this didn't help but Labour are more than 90% to blame.

But there was in fact a world recession, you admit, and the way you wrote it, it sounded as if you were making them out to be lying about the fact that there was in fact a world recession.

[Dagenham Rover]

According to this mornings reports the french/chinese are charging the government £92.50 per mw hour which is TWICE the current rate, thats how they can afford to build it, total lack of foresight by by Cameron and his cronies but what do you expect

"The two sides have now agreed the "strike price" of £92.50 for every megawatt hour of energy Hinkley C generates. This is almost twice the current wholesale cost of electricity.

This will fall to £89.50 for every megawatt hour of energy if EDF Group goes ahead with plans to develop a new nuclear power station at Sizewell in Suffolk. Doing both would allow EDF to share costs across both projects."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24604218


And according to the cronies it won't lead to prices going up ..........yeh get stuffed it won't

[River Don]

So they would be right in having you believe it was a world recession, would they not? because if not, then that's a little contradictory.

Labour blame the world recession for all our economic woes. It is my contention that this didn't help but Labour are more than 90% to blame.

And no doubt the American Bush administration were only 10% to blame?

[IC1967]

But there was in fact a world recession, you admit, and the way you wrote it, it sounded as if you were making them out to be lying about the fact that there was in fact a world recession.

No, they're lying about the world recession being totally to blame for our problems. A lie that a lot of people have fallen for which needs to be exposed.

[RedJ]

But there was in fact a world recession, you admit, and the way you wrote it, it sounded as if you were making them out to be lying about the fact that there was in fact a world recession.

No, they're lying about the world recession being totally to blame for our problems. A lie that a lot of people have fallen for which needs to be exposed.

But you made it look as though they had tried to lie about the fact that there was a world recession.