Take over ready to go ahead.

[GazLaz]

@Walkerpw: Bramall says he's not sure what stage the Sequentia deal is at but is prepared to accept it on the terms discussed. #drfc

According to this tweet.

[Woodhead Passer]

Also -

"Terry Bramall confirms he would leave #DRFC if deal goes through but has no plans on becoming Chairman in the meantime."

[Lipsy]

This has all stopped making sense now. Completely confused by all of this now... I think I shall just turn off the internet and do something else.

[whisky]

So if TB now wants the deal to go ahead and he will leave the club afterwards could JR then be re appointed as chairman by SC and get what he wanted all along ?
I'd be much happier about the deal going ahead if JR was still around.
Wishful thinking.

[GazLaz]

TB wants to do the deal on his terms and not through JR.

[River Don]

So if TB now wants the deal to go ahead and he will leave the club afterwards could JR then be re appointed as chairman by SC and get what he wanted all along ?
I'd be much happier about the deal going ahead if JR was still around.
Wishful thinking.

I don't think it is wishful thinking. I think it's exactly what John has been pushing and hoping for.

[tuffty]

So for all the TB lovers who have said he has the club at heart..........really its his POCKET he has had in the best interest.

[Red wizard]

I wonder if this is why we have signed no loan players?

[GazLaz]

Would people be more in favour of the deal if TB agreed to it?

[tuffty]

Would people be more in favour of the deal if TB agreed to it?

Yeah because the guy can do no wrong.............In certain peoples eyes.

[IDM]

Would people be more in favour of the deal if TB agreed to it?

People would be more in favour of the deal if we know more about the deal itself, not who is responsible for bringing it to the table, IMHO.

[wing commander]

   Yes I do......At the end of the day whatever anybody thinks he has not signed up to this deal as he and Watson want assurances on the future debt level we take on...Now Bramhall is a very succesfull business man,he has sold companies he created before, even more than JR...
   And I for one wont vilify a man who has put a lot of money in to this club too....The fact that it would appear that JR has no or little support from any of the people who have actually seen the deal (including his closest ally) is the thing that concerns me the most....
   I love JR,I marched with the coffin,attended all the meeting at the Earl and I can remember the utter despair I felt when I watched my team for what I thought was our last ever game...I will never forget that and I owe him a huge debt of gratitude,but I do feel sad he chose to do it this way with his  mates down at the exiles and then resigning 3 minutes before kick off...All done to cause the utmost disruption..The end result is that now the fans are ripping each others heads off all argueing points that nobody can say is true one way or another because we just don't know the full story..
  Whatever side you represent some of the abuse people are suffering is undeserved and nasty but all this Bramhall out talk can only be from people who weren't fans during the dark ages else they would remember what having a club who are in the shit is like...Be careful what you wish for...

[River Don]

Would people be more in favour of the deal if TB agreed to it?

Yes Gaz I would, for two reasons. The first is if Terry now wants out there isn't another option and if he is happy for it to go through then it gives us some reassurance.

My main worry about SC was always that TB and DW were not convinced by the offer and preferred to maintain the status quo.

[CraigyBoy]

So basically all the people defending bramhall have woken up this morning feeling a little bit silly. What a disaster.

[Lipsy]

Has there been any suggestion that it's "TB's" deal and not "JR's" deal? Has there? If so, please point me in the direction of the quote/article. Otherwise, it's just presumption/speculation.

Bramall: "He's (JR's) not been in the dark with Sequentia, he's dealt with them for 6 months."

[Rovers Return]

Oh dear!! The beginning of the end 

[wing commander]

   Craigyboy...No there not but that wont stop you continuing with your cheap,gutless keyboard warrior attack now will it...

[River Don]

So basically all the people defending bramhall have woken up this morning feeling a little bit silly. What a disaster.

I don't feel silly at all. I was never against JR and never for TB. Bramall has supported the club financially and has helped see the Rovers through some very good times, that entitled him to a fair hearing.

What has always concerned me is SC and their motives. I'm still yet to be convinced by them.

Right now I would still prefer to see the status quo remain but that cannot be.

[Lipsy]

Here are words from TB's mouth. Currently listening to it: https://audioboo.fm/boos/1720476

[Lipsy]

TB suggesting that this is JR's deal... Nothing about it being TB's deal on his terms.

[SkellowRover]

So for all the TB lovers who have said he has the club at heart..........really its his POCKET he has had in the best interest.

I've been saying it for 2 years and was called an idiot and that i didn't know what i was talking about by directors of this co-operative, yet my friend the source that told me was/is a board member and a shareholder of the club who will know a lot more about what is going on the Silent Majority et al because all SM hears is what they want him to hear.
The VSC didn't want SC involved with the club so backed TB and certain individuals on here rediculed JR which upset him too, pity they backed a guy who's only interest was himself all along rather then the guy that eat, sleeps and eats doncaster rovers. All supporters including the VSC know what JR is about, yet they pinned their flag to the mast of a man who in truth they know very little about, rediculous!

[SkellowRover]

TB suggesting that this is JR's deal... Nothing about it being TB's deal on his terms.

And you believe him,? A bloke who was only here to line his own pockets? lmfao

[IDM]

So for all the TB lovers who have said he has the club at heart..........really its his POCKET he has had in the best interest.

I've been saying it for 2 years and was called an idiot and that i didn't know what i was talking about by directors of this co-operative, yet my friend the source that told me was/is a board member and a shareholder of the club who will know a lot more about what is going on the Silent Majority et al because all SM hears is what they want him to hear.
The VSC didn't want SC involved with the club so backed TB and certain individuals on here rediculed JR which upset him too, pity they backed a guy who's only interest was himself all along rather then the guy that eat, sleeps and eats doncaster rovers. All supporters including the VSC know what JR is about, yet they pinned their flag to the mast of a man who in truth they know very little about, rediculous!

I pin my flag to the DRFC mast, not to any one individual.  My opinion, I can't speak for others...

[Lipsy]

I was paraphrasing what he said, not adding my own spin on it. Enough people are spinning words and speculating - I don't want to be part of it.

What I will say is that (and I am not going to side with anyone/kick anyone, etc) I thought that it was interesting that TB appears to be selectively clued up about what JR has said over the weekend. That could be because he simply isn't up to speed, but I did find it odd that TB claimed ignorance of some of it but knew about other comments. It takes about five minutes to read up on JR's comments...

That said, I maintain the belief that the board have all been playing silly buggers to some degree.

[steve@dcfd]

It appears that the money from Sequentia was going to be paid over 3 to 5 years to the owners. Which was not acceptable to the majority of the owners. In the new deal it will be paid up front and now TB appears to be saying that is acceptable.

[eastender]

So if the deal goes through and it sounds likely that it will , where will that leave the VSC ?

We haven't got off to the best of starts by being issued with a lawyers letter threatening legal action by the new owners , have we. 

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Indeed as ever we'll look at the information, discuss and take it at its merits. If things have changed for a positive it's all good. If they haven't them clearly I'd still be concerned based on information from before.

[SkellowRover]

Indeed as ever we'll look at the information, discuss and take it at its merits. If things have changed for a positive it's all good. If they haven't them clearly I'd still be concerned based on information from before.

Backtrack much?
What happened to the 'we don't want a hedge fund running our club' and 'we don't want people that threatened us with legal action running our club'? The deal is no different just money up front and slightly more, it's still a hedge fund and still people that threatened your co-operative with legal action.
The VSC changing it's opinion again to suit it's own agenda?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Indeed as ever we'll look at the information, discuss and take it at its merits. If things have changed for a positive it's all good. If they haven't them clearly I'd still be concerned based on information from before.

Backtrack much?
What happened to the 'we don't want a hedge fund running our club' and 'we don't want people that threatened us with legal action running our club'? The deal is no different just money up front and slightly more, it's still a hedge fund and still people that threatened your co-operative with legal action.
The VSC changing it's opinion again to suit it's own agenda?

Rubbish, we'll discuss everything new as we well should. My opinion is no different I'd be looking for guarantees of security to support it. Which is bang in line with what the directors of the vsc discussed months ago before any of you ever knew of takeover talks.

Also I'd like to think we're not fixed in our minds and quite open to making decisions on the evidenced. If new information to the positive appears, well that's exactly what we're pushing for.  We're not childish in making a view and sticking to it if things change. If there is no change my view will not. So you're wrong.

[BigColSutherland]

Should this go through, the VSC shareholding could be bought out with no say in the matter could it not?