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May sound hairy fairy but the greens have my values. Without the earths resources and ecosystems man would be nothing, the economy wouldn't matter. What's the point of having the shiniest New phone if the earths resources run out tomorrow.
Quote from: coventryrover on March 03, 2015, 12:46:19 amMay sound hairy fairy but the greens have my values. Without the earths resources and ecosystems man would be nothing, the economy wouldn't matter. What's the point of having the shiniest New phone if the earths resources run out tomorrow.I don't call building 500,000 new social houses with all the infrastructure that goes with it looking after the earth's resources and ecosystems. That's just up to 2020. No doubt they'd want to carry on building and destroying the earth after this as well.If they said they'd put a stop to house building and would take measures to reduce the UK's population then maybe they'd have a point true to their values.Anyway I wouldn't get too excited by them if I were you. The only place where they have a chance of getting an MP is Brighton. Voting for them anywhere else is a waste of time and effort.Unlike a vote for UKIP. We have the chance to take a few seats that could make a difference. A vote for UKIP is a vote for the Tories. By voting UKIP (especially in the North) there is a good chance Labour would be damaged and either the Tories or UKIP get in.Get in.
Quote from: coventryrover on March 03, 2015, 12:46:19 amMay sound hairy fairy but the greens have my values. Without the earths resources and ecosystems man would be nothing, the economy wouldn't matter. What's the point of having the shiniest New phone if the earths resources run out tomorrow.I quite agree. What is the point of shiny new phones? Generally that they are designed to have a life of 3 to 6 years. The product is deigned to become obsolete very quickly. Worth remembering though that the industry relies on that built in obsolescence to keep growing and keep people employed.But let's forget all that, oil is destined to begin running out before too long. We're completely unprepared for the consequences of it. It is a finite resource and our insatiable thirst for it means we are already begining to feel the effects but so far we have barely noticed.
Hear hear Cov. And that is exactly why everyone should actively and positively oppose this bloody TTIP. It's an abomination. And surprise, surprise, it's being introduced by the Tories. Now I wonder why that could be?If anyone actually does want to know how to help opposition to it, in an extremely painless way that takes all of about 30 seconds every now and again, let me know.BobG
Who the f*** else is introducing it then Mick? Of course it's being introduced in this country by the Tories. They support it. They sponsor it. They want it to happen. Yes it is an EU wide thing, but it is not something that the EU has the power to impose. Each and every single nation state, all 28 of them, has to separately ratify it. Individual nations can accept it or refuse it as they choose. Ergo, it's being introduced, sponsored, supported by the sodding Tories.Even a 5 year old could find that out Mick. You? You just shoot from the hip every single time. You'll never ever have any credibility until you learn how to present your cases properly. BobG
Ha ha ha ha!!Is that the best you can do? Like I said. Incapable. Utterly incapable. I note that you have failed, very noticeably, to address the point. But then, you always do. Your incapacity to sustain any discussion is spectacular. Let's see. What's the process? Oh yes:Mick: A wild generalisation dredged from the depths of his prejudicesA more intelligent person: a statement of a few relevant facts that prove the fatuousness of Mick's statement.Mick: Sees he's lost the argument so ignores it and attacks the personHonestly Mick. The shallowness of your thinking is staggering. I'm going to be very interested in what my psychiatrist friend makes of you.BobG
Honestly Mick. The shallowness of your thinking is staggering. I'm going to be very interested in what my psychiatrist friend makes of you.BobG
Quote from: BobG on March 04, 2015, 10:16:03 pmHa ha ha ha!!Is that the best you can do? Like I said. Incapable. Utterly incapable. I note that you have failed, very noticeably, to address the point. But then, you always do. Your incapacity to sustain any discussion is spectacular. Let's see. What's the process? Oh yes:Mick: A wild generalisation dredged from the depths of his prejudicesA more intelligent person: a statement of a few relevant facts that prove the fatuousness of Mick's statement.Mick: Sees he's lost the argument so ignores it and attacks the personHonestly Mick. The shallowness of your thinking is staggering. I'm going to be very interested in what my psychiatrist friend makes of you.BobGYour the one that attacks the person all the time. I think your friend the psychiatrist would have a field day with you. You constantly accuse me of attacking the man when it is you that does this in virtually every post you do in response to my excellent points that you can't argue against. Like I said. How can the Tories be introducing something that hasn't yet been agreed? An answer would be nice for a change instead of another attack on me.
That's because we do, actually, tell the truth mate. It's the bigotted blinkers blinding your sight that lead you astray so often.BobG
The Tories are planning to introduce it and have it set in their long term economic plan. Regardless of whether they have or haven't done it yet the key thing to take out is they want to introduce it
They've backed it. They support the agreement of TTIP. So when agreed/finalised they plan to introduce it. That's how.
So you are denying that the Tories support TTIP? It's common knowledge. A simple Google would show you that. Maybe put the news on for a bit.http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/07/voters-want-nhs-exempt-us-trade-pact-ttip-eu-privatisation
There are places, a few, where you would probably feel much more comfortable than on here Mick. You wouldn't learn as much, but you might get a few people stroking your ego if you hit the right extremisms. And before you forget, go back and look at the facts (facts!) I gave in post no. 37 above about the introduction of TTIP. It's introduced by nation states. Not the EC. Each and every nation state can opt in or opt out. So, the only way it will happen here is if the governing party want it to. As they do, and have publicly said they do, it is being introduced by the Conservative party. Once you get that in your head you'll be far more able to participate sensibly in this debate. Like has been mentioned many times on here Mick, if you did a spot of proper research before letting your prejudices hit the keyboard, you wouldn't half have a lot more impact. You could learn a lot if you took heed of even some of the advice you've been offered over the last 12 months. As it is, your level of contribution remains trivial, juvenile and without either credibility or substance. For example...Do you actually bother to read any of these links you bombard us with? If you did, you would see, like with this latest one, that it actually destroys the rubbish you try to ram down our throats! What does this mean, Mick, about the Conservative approach to TTIP? I quote, from the Tory party, from your link, " The TTIP is part of our long term economic plan..." There it is. Black and white. From the Conservative Party. From your chosen source. So remind me, please, how your argument goes?You really are a very poor specimen Mick. As you seem so fond of demanding apologies, I have now conclusively proved you owe one to every single contributor to this thread. Don't keep us waiting. Your response is going to show all of us your measure.BobG
No one is saying it has already been introduced you muppet. It is planned to be introduced by the Tories. Fact. Stop talking wet
Quote from: Capital Steez on March 09, 2015, 07:55:38 pmNo one is saying it has already been introduced you muppet. It is planned to be introduced by the Tories. Fact. Stop talking wetBobG is saying it's been introduced. Read his drivel.Now get an abject apology sorted pronto.
Quote from: IC1967 on March 09, 2015, 09:16:41 pmQuote from: Capital Steez on March 09, 2015, 07:55:38 pmNo one is saying it has already been introduced you muppet. It is planned to be introduced by the Tories. Fact. Stop talking wetBobG is saying it's been introduced. Read his drivel.Now get an abject apology sorted pronto.I cant be bothered to read all the way through Mick, can you help me and point to Bob's post where he says TTIP has been introduced please? That's been introduced, not being introduced btw.
Everyone understood Bob's statement apart from you Mick. You've misundertood and you are trying to save face. Save us all the bother mate and give it a rest. Go enjoy a Farage Montage on YouTube