Jeremy Clarkson in trouble again

[Bentley Bullet]

 BST you're deep routed hatred of him is beyond anything I imagined, and seems, to put it mildly, unhealthy. Therefore there's nothing I wish to say to continue this argument because it has now become irrational.

[wilts rover]

What now for our Jeremy? Well the person who caused this reaction:

I sat and watched TG with my daughter as it is one of our favourite programmes. However after the initial laughter at the cycling piece we were both shocked and sickened by the content. Sorry guys, this was not good TV for a family whose cyclist husband and father was killed by a lorry. This missed so many opportunities and I am quite saddened by what went on air, had I realised I would not have watched.
http://road.cc/content/news/112817-cyclist%E2%80%99s-widow-tells-top-gear%E2%80%99s-jeremy-clarkson-look-me-eye

is being tipped to front a cycling show!!!!
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/chain-reaction-cycles-makes-early-april-fools-by-inviting-jeremy-clarkson-to-host-online-cycling-show-164024

It's a funny old world.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Thanks Lipsy.

I've got the d**khead on Ignore but now I've had to read more of his pig ignorant witterings.

[Lipsy]

I can only apologise, BST. I seem to recall that the original text omitted the "sympathetic" intro, hence my response... I may have been mistaken, but I think not.

Either way (and this is to anyone else), is the 'ignore user' function exclusive to VSC members? If so, I will happily pay double to silence two morons (who are possible one and the same).

Thanks.

[Filo]

I can only apologise, BST. I seem to recall that the original text omitted the "sympathetic" intro, hence my response... I may have been mistaken, but I think not.

Either way (and this is to anyone else), is the 'ignore user' function exclusive to VSC members? If so, I will happily pay double to silence two morons (who are possible one and the same).

Thanks.

The ignore user function should work for every registered user

[Glyn_Wigley]

BB

I'm not defending myself. I'm explaining to you that some of us have REALLY personal reasons for hating every aspect of the culture that Clarkson personifies. Not because of some abstract idea about what is right and wrong. Because the culture that he has made a career out of bigging up leaves real victims in its wake.

Big f***ing laugh when you think about that aspect isn't it?

Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for your wife's nephew I'm afraid it's far too simplistic to blame Jeremy for drivers going too fast. In fact its plain ludicrous. Research has shown that only 5% of accidents occur due to driving too fast. I seem to remember you yourself admitting to driving too fast when you were young. Are you blaming that on Jeremy as well? Next you'll be wanting Formula One banning and other motor sports.

I wouldn't be surprised if people driving too slowly is actually a bigger problem than people driving too fast. We've all been stuck behind grandad doing 10 miles an hour with the drivers behind recklessly overtaking to get past the doddery old fool.

So in an effort as the voice of reason to bring some balance to the debate I suggest you read the following article.

Sorted.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson-on-speeding-2006-12-01

Looks like you've never read Licensed To Skill, have you Mick? Perhaps you ought to before claiming only 5% of accidents are caused by driving too fast. Tut tut.

[IC1967]

BB

I'm not defending myself. I'm explaining to you that some of us have REALLY personal reasons for hating every aspect of the culture that Clarkson personifies. Not because of some abstract idea about what is right and wrong. Because the culture that he has made a career out of bigging up leaves real victims in its wake.

Big f***ing laugh when you think about that aspect isn't it?

Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for your wife's nephew I'm afraid it's far too simplistic to blame Jeremy for drivers going too fast. In fact its plain ludicrous. Research has shown that only 5% of accidents occur due to driving too fast. I seem to remember you yourself admitting to driving too fast when you were young. Are you blaming that on Jeremy as well? Next you'll be wanting Formula One banning and other motor sports.

I wouldn't be surprised if people driving too slowly is actually a bigger problem than people driving too fast. We've all been stuck behind grandad doing 10 miles an hour with the drivers behind recklessly overtaking to get past the doddery old fool.

So in an effort as the voice of reason to bring some balance to the debate I suggest you read the following article.

Sorted.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson-on-speeding-2006-12-01

Looks like you've never read Licensed To Skill, have you Mick? Perhaps you ought to before claiming only 5% of accidents are caused by driving too fast. Tut tut.

Jeremy's word is good enough for me.

Instead of blaming Top Gear for road deaths you'd be better spending your time ignoring leftie claptrap and campaigning for the driving age to be raised to 21. Young lads are the main problem not Top Gear. There's plenty more that could be done as well like making sure old people are re-tested regularly and the keys taken off them when appropriate.

I know of a case where an old person had virtually lost all his lung function and was so weak he could hardly walk. He still thought it was OK to drive as did his doctor etc. Well I wasn't about to let that happen so sold his car for him and banned him from ever driving again. How many more people are there out there that are 'getting away' with it? Unfortunately most people aren't as direct and honest in these situations like what I am and allow people to drive knowing they are putting other people's lives at risk.

Shame on them. No doubt some of you will be reading this and feeling a twinge of guilt. All I would say to you is grow a pair ffs.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Jeremy's word is good enough for me.

Yeah, because Jeremy (and therefore you) is so much better informed than a report compiled by the Institute of Advanced Motorists based upon police data of over 700,000 accidents over a four year period.

Sums you up completely.

[IC1967]

Jeremy's word is good enough for me.

Yeah, because Jeremy (and therefore you) is so much better informed than a report compiled by the Institute of Advanced Motorists based upon police data of over 700,000 accidents over a four year period.

Sums you up completely.

Look. I'll let you into a secret. The IoAM have a hidden agenda. The more people that they sign up to their courses the more money they will make. This would lead me to believe they may have distorted the statistics to their best commercial advantage. What a surprise!

They rely on people like you falling for their guff. Well they'll need to be far cleverer with their marketing before I fall for their nonsense.

[Glyn_Wigley]

But you're perfectly happy to fall for Jeremy's guff! lol

[NickDRFC]

Slightly off topic here but Glynn Wigley, do you ever post on comments that aren't wind ups by IC1967 or ever comment on football any more? This isn't intended as a dig, it just seems that whenever I are your name it is always as a response to something he has written in off topic, seems a bit peculiar.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Slightly off topic here but Glynn Wigley, do you ever post on comments that aren't wind ups by IC1967 or ever comment on football any more? This isn't intended as a dig, it just seems that whenever I are your name it is always as a response to something he has written in off topic, seems a bit peculiar.

Unfortunately due to circumstances I'm not able to get to the matches as much as when I was a season ticket holder so I don't feel in a position to comment on Rovers as much as before so I don't.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sweet f**king Jesus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32103665

[IC1967]

Sweet f***ing Jesus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32103665

You seem surprised. Given the number of people that didn't want our Jeremy sacked it seems perfectly reasonable to me that there would be some of them that have a screw loose and will try to take matters to a ridiculous level.

It is only you lefties that live in a black and white world where the only punishment was for him to be sacked. I've pointed out how in this situation that was not the best way for him to be punished. I pointed out that it would be other people rather than Jeremy that would be 'punished' but you wouldn't listen. According to you lot sacking him was the only option. No it wasn't. This is another example of why leftie thinking is so ridiculous. There will be further unintended consequences of his sacking. I hope you're all happy with yourselves.

If only you leftie lot could have seen reason for once in your lives this matter could have been dealt with in a far more intelligent way. If only I was the Director General of the BBC. I could have sorted this mess out quite easily. I'd have totally ignored the hard left's view and come to a rational decision.

Shame on you lefties for ruining so many lives.

[Colin C No.3]

I'm sure we'll see his pathetic mug crop up again somewhere.....'I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here' would suit, I'm reliably informed.

[idler]

I'm sure we'll see his pathetic mug crop up again somewhere.....'I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here' would suit, I'm reliably informed.

Surely he's just done this on Top Gear. 😜

[RTID75]

Sweet f***ing Jesus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32103665

You seem surprised. Given the number of people that didn't want our Jeremy sacked it seems perfectly reasonable to me that there would be some of them that have a screw loose and will try to take matters to a ridiculous level.

It is only you lefties that live in a black and white world where the only punishment was for him to be sacked. I've pointed out how in this situation that was not the best way for him to be punished. I pointed out that it would be other people rather than Jeremy that would be 'punished' but you wouldn't listen. According to you lot sacking him was the only option. No it wasn't. This is another example of why leftie thinking is so ridiculous. There will be further unintended consequences of his sacking. I hope you're all happy with yourselves.

If only you leftie lot could have seen reason for once in your lives this matter could have been dealt with in a far more intelligent way. If only I was the Director General of the BBC. I could have sorted this mess out quite easily. I'd have totally ignored the hard left's view and come to a rational decision.

Shame on you lefties for ruining so many lives.

STFU.

[IC1967]

Sweet f***ing Jesus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32103665

You seem surprised. Given the number of people that didn't want our Jeremy sacked it seems perfectly reasonable to me that there would be some of them that have a screw loose and will try to take matters to a ridiculous level.

It is only you lefties that live in a black and white world where the only punishment was for him to be sacked. I've pointed out how in this situation that was not the best way for him to be punished. I pointed out that it would be other people rather than Jeremy that would be 'punished' but you wouldn't listen. According to you lot sacking him was the only option. No it wasn't. This is another example of why leftie thinking is so ridiculous. There will be further unintended consequences of his sacking. I hope you're all happy with yourselves.

If only you leftie lot could have seen reason for once in your lives this matter could have been dealt with in a far more intelligent way. If only I was the Director General of the BBC. I could have sorted this mess out quite easily. I'd have totally ignored the hard left's view and come to a rational decision.

Shame on you lefties for ruining so many lives.

STFU.

Thank you for your considered opinion. I take it you are unable to contribute further to the debate as the paucity of your thinking has been exposed and you don't like it?

[RTID75]

No, I don't like sad fools with a God complex lording it over everyone else all over the forum. Who the f**k do you think you are?

If you've lived your life like you live it on here, you've been smacked more than once. Or is it some kind of adult online response to being bullied and beaten up at school? Either way it's pathetic and exceedingly tiresome.

No doubt you'll have some more painful, arrogant bullshit in reserve ready to reply. I can't wait.

[IC1967]

No, I don't like sad fools with a God complex lording it over everyone else all over the forum. Who the f**k do you think you are?

If you've lived your life like you live it on here, you've been smacked more than once. Or is it some kind of adult online response to being bullied and beaten up at school? Either way it's pathetic and exceedingly tiresome.

No doubt you'll have some more painful, arrogant bullshit in reserve ready to reply. I can't wait.

Look. I'd appreciate it if you could refrain from using such foul language in future. It does you no favours.

For your information I don't believe in God so fail to see how I could have such a complex. I forgive you for making such a silly statement.

Bullying? Are you suggesting that there is a type of person that gets bullied and that I fit this profile? Shame on you. No one, no matter what their personality, deserves to be bullied. It is Neanderthal views like the ones you have expressed that is still part of the problem regarding bullying.

You should see some of the things certain posters on the forum have said about me and the abuse that has been heaped on me. That is another form of bullying that I hold no truck with it. You won't find me bullying people. I am a saint compared to a lot of posters on this forum.

You seem to have anger management issues. Try taking a chill pill and try to contribute to a debate rather than posting just to vent your irrational anger.

You'll feel so much better.

[RTID75]

Just realised I missed an important word out. Silly me - Condescending God complex.

I have no anger management issues. Only arrogant, condescending arseholes like you (and Jeremy Clarkson) seem to bring out of me anything other than sweetness and light. What a shame we can't sack you.

[IC1967]

Just realised I missed an important word out. Silly me - Condescending God complex.

I have no anger management issues. Only arrogant, condescending arseholes like you (and Jeremy Clarkson) seem to bring out of me anything other than sweetness and light. What a shame we can't sack you.

Look. You need to calm down. Have you read my previous post? Your language is still disgraceful. You are now adding further insults in bold! You seem to be getting angrier!

In terms of sacking me, I recently did the honourable thing and instigated a poll to see if I should stay or go. I can't be fairer than that. The overwhelming view of the forum was that I should stay. You are also obviously a bad loser.

Look, I genuinely fear for your state of mind. If reading my posts winds you up so much then just block me. Others that have been battered senseless in debates by me have taken this option. I'm sure they all feel better now. Take a leaf out of their book.

You know it makes sense.

[Colin C No.3]

BB

I'm not defending myself. I'm explaining to you that some of us have REALLY personal reasons for hating every aspect of the culture that Clarkson personifies. Not because of some abstract idea about what is right and wrong. Because the culture that he has made a career out of bigging up leaves real victims in its wake.

Big f***ing laugh when you think about that aspect isn't it?

Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for your wife's nephew I'm afraid it's far too simplistic to blame Jeremy for drivers going too fast. In fact its plain ludicrous. Research has shown that only 5% of accidents occur due to driving too fast. I seem to remember you yourself admitting to driving too fast when you were young. Are you blaming that on Jeremy as well? Next you'll be wanting Formula One banning and other motor sports.

I wouldn't be surprised if people driving too slowly is actually a bigger problem than people driving too fast. We've all been stuck behind grandad doing 10 miles an hour with the drivers behind recklessly overtaking to get past the doddery old fool.

So in an effort as the voice of reason to bring some balance to the debate I suggest you read the following article.

Sorted.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson-on-speeding-2006-12-01

Looks like you've never read Licensed To Skill, have you Mick? Perhaps you ought to before claiming only 5% of accidents are caused by driving too fast. Tut tut.

Jeremy's word is good enough for me.

Instead of blaming Top Gear for road deaths you'd be better spending your time ignoring leftie claptrap and campaigning for the driving age to be raised to 21. Young lads are the main problem not Top Gear. There's plenty more that could be done as well like making sure old people are re-tested regularly and the keys taken off them when appropriate.

I know of a case where an old person had virtually lost all his lung function and was so weak he could hardly walk. He still thought it was OK to drive as did his doctor etc. Well I wasn't about to let that happen so sold his car for him and banned him from ever driving again. How many more people are there out there that are 'getting away' with it? Unfortunately most people aren't as direct and honest in these situations like what I am and allow people to drive knowing they are putting other people's lives at risk.

Shame on them. No doubt some of you will be reading this and feeling a twinge of guilt. All I would say to you is grow a pair ffs.

I'd go further ICI. How come disabled people are able to get a car through Motability? If you're disabled you're disabled & shouldn't be driving, simple as.

Ban all foreign drivers from using our roads. If you can't speak English how the hell can you understand Matrix information notices!

Moving on, (but still using the excellent arguments you have articulated so well) what about people (like the geezer Jezza allegedly chinned) who don't want to press charges? If they don't then clearly there's no argument & the police should butt out. Same with alleged rape victims, paedophile victims & so called racially abused people, if they're not prepared to take the alleged offender to court then it's a 'non starter'. Furthermore, I'd actually bring a prosecution against them for wasting police time & people's like you & me taxes!

But oh no, mustn't be seen to 'not being fair', mustn't upset 'Liberal' thinking folk, must be seen to tow the PC line. The Third Reich wouldn't have stood for such nonsence, well they didn't did they mate.

I know 'they say' "The pen is mightier than the sword" but grrr I tell you, if I had a gun pal. We'd soon weed 'them out' then my friend.

As that beautifully rousing anthem goes, "Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand, til we have built Jerusalem, on England's green & pleasant land". Hold your sword in your hand now ICI, grasp it firmly, doesn't that feel good dear friend.

[IC1967]

BB

I'm not defending myself. I'm explaining to you that some of us have REALLY personal reasons for hating every aspect of the culture that Clarkson personifies. Not because of some abstract idea about what is right and wrong. Because the culture that he has made a career out of bigging up leaves real victims in its wake.

Big f***ing laugh when you think about that aspect isn't it?

Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for your wife's nephew I'm afraid it's far too simplistic to blame Jeremy for drivers going too fast. In fact its plain ludicrous. Research has shown that only 5% of accidents occur due to driving too fast. I seem to remember you yourself admitting to driving too fast when you were young. Are you blaming that on Jeremy as well? Next you'll be wanting Formula One banning and other motor sports.

I wouldn't be surprised if people driving too slowly is actually a bigger problem than people driving too fast. We've all been stuck behind grandad doing 10 miles an hour with the drivers behind recklessly overtaking to get past the doddery old fool.

So in an effort as the voice of reason to bring some balance to the debate I suggest you read the following article.

Sorted.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson-on-speeding-2006-12-01

Looks like you've never read Licensed To Skill, have you Mick? Perhaps you ought to before claiming only 5% of accidents are caused by driving too fast. Tut tut.

Jeremy's word is good enough for me.

Instead of blaming Top Gear for road deaths you'd be better spending your time ignoring leftie claptrap and campaigning for the driving age to be raised to 21. Young lads are the main problem not Top Gear. There's plenty more that could be done as well like making sure old people are re-tested regularly and the keys taken off them when appropriate.

I know of a case where an old person had virtually lost all his lung function and was so weak he could hardly walk. He still thought it was OK to drive as did his doctor etc. Well I wasn't about to let that happen so sold his car for him and banned him from ever driving again. How many more people are there out there that are 'getting away' with it? Unfortunately most people aren't as direct and honest in these situations like what I am and allow people to drive knowing they are putting other people's lives at risk.

Shame on them. No doubt some of you will be reading this and feeling a twinge of guilt. All I would say to you is grow a pair ffs.

I'd go further ICI. How come disabled people are able to get a car through Motability? If you're disabled you're disabled & shouldn't be driving, simple as.

Ban all foreign drivers from using our roads. If you can't speak English how the hell can you understand Matrix information notices!

Moving on, (but still using the excellent arguments you have articulated so well) what about people (like the geezer Jezza allegedly chinned) who don't want to press charges? If they don't then clearly there's no argument & the police should butt out. Same with alleged rape victims, paedophile victims & so called racially abused people, if they're not prepared to take the alleged offender to court then it's a 'non starter'. Furthermore, I'd actually bring a prosecution against them for wasting police time & people's like you & me taxes!

But oh no, mustn't be seen to 'not being fair', mustn't upset 'Liberal' thinking folk, must be seen to tow the PC line. The Third Reich wouldn't have stood for such nonsence, well they didn't did they mate.

I know 'they say' "The pen is mightier than the sword" but grrr I tell you, if I had a gun pal. We'd soon weed 'them out' then my friend.

As that beautifully rousing anthem goes, "Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand, til we have built Jerusalem, on England's green & pleasant land". Hold your sword in your hand now ICI, grasp it firmly, doesn't that feel good dear friend.

Not a bad attempt at sarcasm. If I was a teacher marking this as homework I'd write 'Colin shows potential but still has a lot of leftie baggage to get rid of. He needs to tone it down a bit but he is definitely starting to think for himself instead of just blindly voting for Labour just because his parents did.' 1/10

[wing commander]

   As a owner and Director of 35 employee's I find the majority of this thread drivel in truth..The bottom line is that most organisations have a disciplinary code that is applied to all staff..If anybody commits physical violence against anybody it's gross misconduct and termination of employment and that is pretty much standard in any company..Wether you like him or not is irrelevant...
    They had no choice,if they had fined him or punished him in any other way the BBC would have been inundated with everybody they have let go for similar reasons over the last ten years claiming discrimination and they would have won without a fight...Letting him go at the end of his contract (only a few weeks) takes away all the threat of legal action from anybody...
    Anybody who claims that there was any other action available is ignorant in the workings of business and the courts of the land....Personally I loved the guy and found him very refreshing (sorry Billy) but there was only ever 1 choice open...
   

[Filo]

   As a owner and Director of 35 employee's I find the majority of this thread drivel in truth..The bottom line is that most organisations have a disciplinary code that is applied to all staff..If anybody commits physical violence against anybody it's gross misconduct and termination of employment and that is pretty much standard in any company..Wether you like him or not is irrelevant...
    They had no choice,if they had fined him or punished him in any other way the BBC would have been inundated with everybody they have let go for similar reasons over the last ten years claiming discrimination and they would have won without a fight...Letting him go at the end of his contract (only a few weeks) takes away all the threat of legal action from anybody...
    Anybody who claims that there was any other action available is ignorant in the workings of business and the courts of the land....Personally I loved the guy and found him very refreshing (sorry Billy) but there was only ever 1 choice open...
   

You don't want to make it 36 employees do you? :-)

[IC1967]

   As a owner and Director of 35 employee's I find the majority of this thread drivel in truth..The bottom line is that most organisations have a disciplinary code that is applied to all staff..If anybody commits physical violence against anybody it's gross misconduct and termination of employment and that is pretty much standard in any company..Wether you like him or not is irrelevant...
    They had no choice,if they had fined him or punished him in any other way the BBC would have been inundated with everybody they have let go for similar reasons over the last ten years claiming discrimination and they would have won without a fight...Letting him go at the end of his contract (only a few weeks) takes away all the threat of legal action from anybody...
    Anybody who claims that there was any other action available is ignorant in the workings of business and the courts of the land....Personally I loved the guy and found him very refreshing (sorry Billy) but there was only ever 1 choice open...
   

So what would happen if you punched an employee? Do you get 'sacked'? Do you cease to have any involvement with your own business and it therefore folds causing all your employees to lose their jobs? How is the closure of the business handled if you've been instantly dismissed and no longer have anymore involvement? I could go on.

Summary dismissal is not the only option. Does anyone remember Cantona assaulting a fan? He didn't get sacked did he? I could go on.

[wilts rover]

So are you saying that the Top Gear producer made racist comments about Clarkson? Or is there another similarity between a totally innocent party and the instigator of an incident who was fined and banned for life that I am missing?
What happened to Karl Colley when he did the same thing?

[IC1967]

So are you saying that the Top Gear producer made racist comments about Clarkson? Or is there another similarity between a totally innocent party and the instigator of an incident who was fined and banned for life that I am missing?
What happened to Karl Colley when he did the same thing?

I haven't got a clue why you think I'm saying the Top Gear producer made racist comments about Clarkson.  Your second sentence is also gobbledygook.

Karl Colley got sacked.

[wilts rover]

Because you are attempting to compare the Clarkson incident to the Cantona one and I have proved how silly you look by doing that.

The Karl Colley incident was far more comparable and what happened to him....

Game, set, match!