Cricket

[NickDRFC]

I've seen Overton & Stone mooted as going to Sri Lanka, although given that one of Broad & Anderson is set to be rested it wouldn't surprise me if Coad went as well. True he doesn't have the express pace but then neither do Broad and Anderson, and I think that Coad has the potential to be a successful test bowler, at least in this country.

[GazLaz]

Coad was a name mentioned last winter but he was given a rest, I expect at the very least he'll be on a Lions tour this time around.

Fantastic win, especially after the first day. After last week Kyle Hogg tweeted "When we beat Yorkshire next week do we send them down?!" For some reason he's been pretty quiet today.

Also found out today that because I bought tickets for the Pakistan test this year I can get up to 4 tickets for each day of the Ashes game at Headingley next year. All in all a pretty successful day!

YOOOOOOOOOOOORKSHIRE!

He’s not quick enough for test level is he? Suck a gulf between county cricket and test cricket these days.

I thought that about Sam Curran, but he hasn't done too badly.

There are a few genuinely fast bowlers about - Jamie Overton, Olly Stone, Zak Chappell - but they are all injury prone. You need to include one of those alongside skilled fast-medium bowlers like Anderson, Broad and Woakes. Coad probably fits into that group.

Curran has the advantage of being a left armed I suppose so the batsmen have the differing angle to contend with. We will always have a line of bowlers suitable for English conditions but ideally we need to find lads that can do it away from home as well.

[Campsall rover]

Went to days 1,2 & 3 of the Roses match.
One of the best games for a number of years. Not a game you could take your eyes off or you would miss something. A proper old fashioned Roses battle.
Balance, Kohler-Cadmore, Coad & Brooks did the business but a great team performance and you could visibly see the confidence and belief return to the team.
Should stay up now but we need to keep the foot on the gas and make sure going into the last match at Worcester we are not under pressure to get a result. Beat Hampshire at Headingley next week and we are safe. 18 points needed for mathematical safety.

[Campsall rover]

Coad was a name mentioned last winter but he was given a rest, I expect at the very least he'll be on a Lions tour this time around.

Fantastic win, especially after the first day. After last week Kyle Hogg tweeted "When we beat Yorkshire next week do we send them down?!" For some reason he's been pretty quiet today.

Also found out today that because I bought tickets for the Pakistan test this year I can get up to 4 tickets for each day of the Ashes game at Headingley next year. All in all a pretty successful day!

YOOOOOOOOOOOORKSHIRE!

He’s not quick enough for test level is he? Suck a gulf between county cricket and test cricket these days.

You don’t have to bowl at 90+ mph to be a test quality bowler. Jimmy Anderson for example.
Coad must be on the Radar now. I think he could be the next one on the block.
Anderson and Broad are nearing the end of their careers. Of the under 25’s Sam & Tom Curran and Coad look the best bets at the present time imo. Coad is 24 so is definitely ready for the big time.
Will be a massive loss to Yorkshire’s team if he does get into the England team.

[roversdude]

Will rain across the country for the next couple of weeks do us

[Campsall rover]

Will rain across the country for the next couple of weeks do us

Mathematically we need 18 more points to be 100% safe. But the reality is we almost certainly will need less. 2 draws with no play at all is 3 points a game. A drawn match is 5 points + any bonus points so 2 drawn games will in all probability be enough.
Weather forecast looks pretty good fo Headingley this week, rain on 3rd day Thursday.
Next week at Worcester so far looks fine.
Can’t see us being relegated now. We would have to get hammered twice and Lancs and Worcestershire will have to win their games also.

[Campsall rover]

Positive thinking. If we win our last 2 games we could finish 3rd 
Depends what Essex do. 4th is realistic.
It’s very tight below the top 2.

[NickDRFC]

Another crazy day today’s cricket today - another poor batting performance with the bowlers getting us out of a hole once more. Hopefully can skittle the remaining batsmen tomorrow, post a half decent lead and get the win to keep us in the championship.

One area we massively need to improve is the batting. I know it’s been a bowlers year in general with the state of some of the pitches and the conditions but Christ some of our averages are appalling. Brook 26, Leaning 25, Lyth 21. Pujara 14.33 across 12 innings, his overseas replacement Raval only 11 and the worst of the lot, Lees with 6.25 - 50 runs in 8 innings. Need the next Bairstow or Root to come through pronto!

[Campsall rover]

We have 2 young batsmen with massive potential in Brook and Kohler-Cadmore. If we continue to put Brook in at no 3 in the batting order we may possibly destroy this lads confidence.
As we seem to loose a wicket early on a regular basis this lad who is only 20 is going in as virtual opening batsmen against the new ball.
This is a very big ask against the likes of some very good experienced opening bowlers such as Abbott and Edwards today.
He may well be an opener or a no 3 in 2/3 years time but as of the present he is a no 5 batsmen.
I really hope we don’t destroy this lads confidence and self belief as that would be criminal.
As for Kohler-Cadmore he has been in a rich vain of form as of late.
Today played a very strange type of half leave it shot and played on.
Is imo also a No 5 at present but I think could be ok at 3
Tattersall would probably be best suited imo to the no 3 out of the current team.

[Campsall rover]

Another absorbing day at Headingley which finished with Yorks leading by 199 with 6 wicktes left.
Bresnan the star man this time in getting a 5 for in Hampshire’s 1st innings of 157 giving us a lead of 27
Yorks on 172-4 second innings with Lyth as anchor man unbeaten on 60 odd.
Tomorrow we look like only getting play up to lunch before the weather sets in. If we can take the lead to 280/300 ish we will be in a very strong position going into the last day with a draw being the worst case scenario. That would give us 8 points. We would then only need 2 points from the last match at Worcester and that is if Lancashire got the full 24 points from their last game away at Hampshire.
The above is of course assuming Worcestershire don’t win against Essex and at close of play today look like they are going to lose the match heavily.

[i_ateallthepies]

What is the points scoring structure in the county championship Campbell?  Don't bother mate if it's a complicated write.

[Filo]

I think I read somewhere that if this match ends in a draw Yorkshire will be 23 points ahead of Lancashire, meaning Yorkshire wil only require 1point from the next match

[idler]

Currently 17 points ahead of Lancs.
Do we get another 5 if no result/further play possible?

[Filo]

The county championship works on a points system, the winner being the team with most points in the first division. The points are currently awarded as follows, with a draw increasing to 5 points [18] from 2014:

Win: 16 points + bonus points.
Tie: 8 points + bonus points.
Draw: 5 points + bonus points.
Loss: Bonus points.

Bonus points are collected for batting and bowling. These points can only be obtained from the first 110 overs of each team's first innings.[19] The bonus points are retained regardless of the outcome of the match.

Batting
200-249 runs: 1 point
250-299 runs: 2 points
300-349 runs: 3 points
350-399 runs: 4 points
400+ runs: 5 points

[The Red Baron]

Yorkshire will be ok so long as they don't lose. After the interruptions today a draw is the favourite.

If Yorkshire do stay up (I think they will) I really hope the game v Warwickshire is at Scarborough. If so, my summer holidays are sorted!

[Campsall rover]

The county championship works on a points system, the winner being the team with most points in the first division. The points are currently awarded as follows, with a draw increasing to 5 points [18] from 2014:

Win: 16 points + bonus points.
Tie: 8 points + bonus points.
Draw: 5 points + bonus points.
Loss: Bonus points.

Bonus points are collected for batting and bowling. These points can only be obtained from the first 110 overs of each team's first innings.[19] The bonus points are retained regardless of the outcome of the match.

Batting
200-249 runs: 1 point
250-299 runs: 2 points
300-349 runs: 3 points
350-399 runs: 4 points
400+ runs: 5 points

You missed out the bowling points.
1st innings 3 wickets 1 point, 6 wickets 2 points, 9 wickets 3 points. Again in the first 110 overs only.
Thanks for the rest of it though Filo, saved me the from doing it.

[Campsall rover]

Currently 17 points ahead of Lancs.
Do we get another 5 if no result/further play possible?

Yes we do. So 8 points in this match means mathematically we only need 2 against Worcestershire and that is if Lancs get all 24 possible points in their last game.

[Donnywolf]

Match abandoned - we need 2 Points now and forecast better. Should get 2 surely

[i_ateallthepies]

Thanks chaps.  Much appreciated.

[Campsall rover]

Match abandoned - we need 2 Points now and forecast better. Should get 2 surely

Yes I am sure we will but I can’t see Lancs getting 24 in their match at Southampton against Hants.
Need to try and win and we could finish 4th.
Really pleased to see Adam Lyth get an unbeaten 100 yesterday. Really deserved. So many 20 something innings’s this season. Only takes 1 good ball to get you out and he seems to be on the end of a few after getting himself in.
Looking forward to next season. Hopefully about 5/6 of the Surrey team will be playing for England which might give everyone else just a inkling of a chance. Looking  at the strength of their squad I would make them favourites to retain the title again next year.

[Filo]

2 bowling points today, ensures safety

[Donnywolf]

 
  (Relief - but we should always be nearer top than botttom - even though we always loan our best Players to ECB)

[Campsall rover]

  (Relief - but we should always be nearer top than botttom - even though we always loan our best Players to ECB)

Great day today over 400 runs and another century for Gary Ballance. In great form and should not be discarded from the England team. Big mistake should be on that plane to Sri Lanka.

[IDM]

I think something is wrong with cricket organisation..

Test players hardly ever get to play for their counties in the 4 day game, to recover or maintain form as well as to play for the home club..

Whilst I can see why the one day games and T20 are popular, I noticed quite a few times over the middle of summer from June through July where hardly any 4 day cricket took place.. I seem to remember checking the bbc cricket website one time in July to find Yorkshire didn’t have a game of any format for a period of about 9 days..

That’s crazy..!

[Campsall rover]

I think something is wrong with cricket organisation..

Test players hardly ever get to play for their counties in the 4 day game, to recover or maintain form as well as to play for the home club..

Whilst I can see why the one day games and T20 are popular, I noticed quite a few times over the middle of summer from June through July where hardly any 4 day cricket took place.. I seem to remember checking the bbc cricket website one time in July to find Yorkshire didn’t have a game of any format for a period of about 9 days..

That’s crazy..!

The fixture list is not good for fans of traditional 4 day Championship Cricket.
Most of July and August was allocated to the T20 and there was only two 4 day fixtures from 1st July
through to the 19th August.
3 of 14 1st Div Fixtures were played in April and 5 from 19th Aug to the last week in Sept.
Not surprising then we are getting bowler friendly conditions and batsmen are struggling.
Yes it is ridiculous test players are not made available to play for their counties.
In the 1970’s & 80’s they played 22 Championship matches ( 3 days then ) and Test Matches.
Going back further they played over 30 Championship matches.
To be honest I think it is a joke. They have all this sports science now and all these fitness coaches.
They are supposed to be fitter than ever. But they get more injuries now than they ever got 30/40/50 years ago.
I know what Fred Trueman and his like would say about the present set up. It’s unprintable.
Any way after that moan great result for Yorkshire at Worcester and we have now finished in a respectable 4th place with 5 wins and 5 defeats out of 14 games.
Notice Lancs won and Notts lost heavily and ended on same points total. Lancs were relegated on fewer wins.

[Draytonian III]

20twenty is killing the County Championship,just like it is doing to club cricket and it will do to the majority of test cricket

[RedJ]

This 100 ball b*llocks won't half stick the boot in as well.

[Campsall rover]

20twenty is killing the County Championship,just like it is doing to club cricket and it will do to the majority of test cricket

Batsmen don’t know where their off stump is any more due to 20/20 Cricket.
Even top players like Joe Root are playing shots to balls over a foot outside the off stump they should be leaving well alone.
But if the Test players don’t play for their clubs how on earth are they supposed to get any competitive practice in that form of the game. Don’t get me going please.
I like 50 over Cricket and find 20/20 entertaining but the 4 day game is to me the bread and butter and without it how can we or other countries produce test match players.
If they kill County Championship Cricket they will also kill test cricket and that to me and most of my generation and older and many Cricket fans younger than me also love the traditional format of the game. It would be a huge tragedy if it was to disappear.

[roversdude]

What galled me was a couple of seasons ago when our England players were prevented from playing in the final and deciding game against Middlesex by Strauss who had ties with ........ oh yeah Middlesex

[roversdude]

By the way great end to the season by our boys well done