Palace ticket allocation

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The Stoke attendance was 13,321.

I can see us selling 10,000 if it's a good kick off time, so I would give Palace 3000. North stand only, so that would give us approx 11,500 max home tickets.

[Alan Southstand]

I think the North Stand holds 3000, so that will be their initial allocation?

Given that the capacity is no longer 15,000'ish, we'll be looking at 'say' 14,200'ish available tickets, less 3000 allowance for Palace, leaving 11,200'ish for home supporters.

We sold round about 7,000'ish home tickets for the Oldham game, but that was at a 'normal' kick off time and not televised. Somehow, to fill the stadium, we are going to have to find 4,000'ish more supporters for the Palace game, with the likelihood that this gamewill be televised and won't be at 3pm on the Saturday.

A nice problem to have for the Club, but nevertheless, a quandary. TV monies could be the major difference for us, financially speaking, but who knows?

[Boomstick]

At 10 quid a ticket we would easily have 11000 home fans in for this game.

[drfchound]

They once filled the away end.

Yeah, when it was free. Not sure many of them can afford to go north of the Thames AND pay to get in.

What, are you considering all that money that the government puts into the SE.
They would be like American WW2 soldiers flashing their cash up in impoverished Donny. 

[CantleyRed]

Agree, North Stand only for Palace to start with. Then hold back the North End of the East Stand and if (when) our own ticket sales are slow sell that to them. If we look like we can sell out then give it to us.

[wing commander]

   I know this wont be a popular opinion but £10 a ticket shouldn't be happening,as SM says with having to give 45% away to Palace the club wont make any money,they probably didn't on Saturday..

   If we cant get a bloody good crowd at £20 a ticket at home in the 5th round of the cup against a premiership side then its a bloody sad state of affairs as far as I'm concerned and something that we would need to remember the next time the word Ambition gets raised....

[CantleyRed]

   I know this wont be a popular opinion but £10 a ticket shouldn't be happening,as SM says with having to give 45% away to Palace the club wont make any money,they probably didn't on Saturday..

   If we cant get a bloody good crowd at £20 a ticket at home in the 5th round of the cup against a premiership side then its a bloody sad state of affairs as far as I'm concerned and something that we would need to remember the next time the word Ambition gets raised....

Meet you half way then ... £15!

[WheatleyRover]

Yes North only for them, we are in the 5th of the FA cup at home, lets not give them any advantage, £15 sounds good

[Donnywolf]

Keep your powder dry until the TV schedule comes along

That would/could be a death knell for a HUGE Crowd and then Ticket prices might have to be priced to compete

[IDM]

TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??

If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..

[RoversAlias]

I agree this should not be a tenner a ticket. £15-£20 is more than acceptable to come and watch Rovers in Round 5 against a Premier League team.

I also don't agree with restricting the away allocation. We want to fill the ground, so give Palace the North Stand as their initial allocation and see if home tickets sell well in that period. I hope and expect they will, the town should be well up for this one.

[drfchound]

TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??

If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..

I suppose it depends on concessions.
Say 7000 tickets at £20 and 7000 at a tenner as there a loads of older fans and kids at matches.
That would be £210,000.

So in that case the tv money wouldn't be more than gate receipts.

[normal rules]

Keep your powder dry until the TV schedule comes along

That would/could be a death knell for a HUGE Crowd and then Ticket prices might have to be priced to compete

This. A Friday night and in particular Monday night would severely hamper travelling rovers ( of which there are many) plus palace fans.
Yes, people will pull out stops to get there, I know I will. But sometimes life and work gets in the way.
If it’s a Monday night kickoff at £20 a ticket, there will be empty seats. And probably quite a few which would be sad.
Such a shame that a momentous occasion could potentially be partially ruined because of theh big tv companies.

[DaveDRFC]

Friday night is the only time this game could take place and I would be able to attend. Otherwise I'll be hoping to find a pub in Prague that's showing it!

[normal rules]

I checked the ticket pricing for wimbledons game at home to West Ham.

Chemflow End (standing)

Adult - £20
Concession - £12
Under 18 - £5

RyGas Terrace (standing)

Adult - £17
Concession - £11
Under 18 - £4

John Green (seating)

Adult - £24
Concession - £15
Under 18 - £10

[IDM]

TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??

If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..

I suppose it depends on concessions.
Say 7000 tickets at £20 and 7000 at a tenner as there a loads of older fans and kids at matches.
That would be £210,000.

So in that case the tv money wouldn't be more than gate receipts.

Don’t forget we only get 45% of that..

[drfchound]

TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??

If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..

I suppose it depends on concessions.
Say 7000 tickets at £20 and 7000 at a tenner as there a loads of older fans and kids at matches.
That would be £210,000.

So in that case the tv money wouldn't be more than gate receipts.

Don’t forget we only get 45% of that..

So would we get all of the tv money or would Palace be entitled to half or at least a share of it.

[IDM]

IMHO the sensible options are cheap tickets if on TV, and normal prices if not..

[normal rules]

Is tv money shared or does it all go to home team?

[IDM]

I don’t know, but I would think being on telly and the gate share would bring in more than gate receipts alone..

Plus there may be more advertising revenue on TV

[drfchound]

….. plus pie and beer sale revenue.

[DRFC-Hanksie]

15% we have to give by fa rules. I'm not sure what the actual capacity is but own as we have lost seats, but based on 14500 we only need to give the, 2200.
I hope the club get this right. I can see there being a big demand for this game.
Of course a Friday or Monday night game will affect this.

Thats roughly 2200?

I remember last time we played Palace, there was controversy because we gave our fans free tickets. Our fans had half the north stand, and were segregated from the Palace fans. I also seem to recall, we had a charity shirt on that day and won.

Get the tickets a tenner and the lads in the new triangle kit, couple of good omens there.

I would also like to see the tickets really pushed for the home fans, would that not mean more gate money for us & less for them?

[Welling Rover]

As it's a cup game and gate receipts are shared, don't Palace have to agree any price reductions ?

[normal rules]

No. Fa states home team decide ticket price.
 

[DonnyBazR0ver]

….. plus pie and beer sale revenue.

We don't get all the revenue. Centreplate pocket that and we get a percentage!!

[RobTheRover]

No, I understand its 45% of gate receipts, not dependent on home or away allocation.  I will have to check the TV money share, but I think that is the same.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

No, I understand its 45% of gate receipts, not dependent on home or away allocation.  I will have to check the TV money share, but I think that is the same.

Yes 45% of total gate receipts. Palace may push for higher prices to get more out of it. Then again, the revenue either way will be chicken feed to them!

[RobTheRover]

From the useful BBC Guide:

The Football Association’s rules stipulate that gate receipts are split 45% to each side, with 10% going to the governing body. If there is a replay, gates are split 42.5% each with 15% going to the FA.

If a Premier League team sold 50,000 seats at £30 or more each that would generate a minimum of £1.5 million. So an away tie to a big Premier League club could mean a windfall of at least £675,000 from gate receipts alone.

There will be 26 FA Cup games televised on BBC or BT Sport this season. Games are televised from the first round.

The TV money increases as the tournament goes on and teams are paid half the TV money again if there is a replay. There is no TV payment for the Wembley semi-finals or final.

The first FA Cup match broadcast live on BBC TV was the 1938 Wembley final between Preston North End and Huddersfield Town. Preston won 1-0 from a penalty in the last minute of extra time.

5th round and 6th round both net £247,500 for a televised game.

Anecdotally, it appears the TV money is split, although I cant find the ratios.

Having said that FA Cup and Capital One Cup represent huge financial possibilities for clubs in lower leagues. Last year when Manchester United visited Cambridge United for the 3rd Round tie they game was shown live on TV and Cambridge made £144,000 with Television Fees for live broadcast. They held United to a 0-0 draw and earned a very lucrative replay where they also received £72,000 for Television fee plus the massive 45% gate receipt revenue. So FA Cup represent a good value for money as far as lower league teams are concerned.

[IDM]

Assuming we get a minimum of 45% of the TV fee, that’s almost £112K on top of the share of gate receipts..

Whichever way you look at it, the cup run has been quite lucrative..

£405,000 in prize money alone for the first 4 rounds..  you could argue that Herbie Kane’s goal at Chorley prevented us from getting f**k all prize money..

Add on TV money and the prospect of £360 grand if we win in round 5, IF.. and then maybe £250 grand for potentially being the last L1 team in the competition, we could net well over a million..

[Filo]

In the 3rd round both teams got £150k for live TV coverage

http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/dec/06/fa-cup-on-tv-third-round-061218