Parliament to be prorogued

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Gaz

It's Government by upper class spivs and wide boys. It's important to be clear about this. The old Tory party that claimed to be on the side of business and hard work has gone. It's been gutted.

Whatever you thought about their policies, they had a consistency to them and a philosophical guide. You knew more or less what they were trying to do, even if you thought it was wrong.

The current set have jettisoned that. There is no philosophical guide to them. It's about power and only power. They will ditch any principle, drop any policy, tell any lie they need to in order to secure power.

Hence, after a decade of saying that Austerity was vital, and after only last year voting for Austerity budgets right through to the mid-2020s, and after a decade of saying Labour's spending plans were unfeasible, whaddya know? They've suddenly found the Magic Money Tree this morning. Spending will be lavishly increased across the board.

Because there's an election coming and they want to buy votes.

And you know what, if the public purse is busting full of money it must be down to the previous chancellor, who has had the whip removed 😀


They must think we’re all stupid

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm not one generally for moaning about bias at the BBC, but their Twitter coverage of PMQ today was beyond belief.

A string of tweets bigging up bluster from Johnson. Highlighting him attacking Corbyn. Not a single comment on Corbyn's questions to Johnson. There was even one tweet where they said "Jeremy Corbyn refuses to answer Boris Johnson's question".

It's called Prime-f**king-Minister's Questions for a reason. He's supposed to answer questions not f**king ask them.

In the current atmosphere, that performance from the BBC is an utter disgrace.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BBC Twitter feed repeated a lame joke by Johnson about Corbyn being a chlorinated chicken.


Meanwhile, John McDonnell comes out with the cleverest  joke in the Commons all week and the BBC coverage blanks it.

Javid and McDonnell's dad's were both bus drivers. McDonnell said: you know what they say about Chancellors of the Exchequer whose dads drove buses? You wait years for one then another one come along immediately afterwards.

[Tarkovsky_Mikluzhkin]

Billy wasn't that originally Sadiq Khans joke I believe his dad was also a bus driver.

[Bentley Bullet]

BBC Twitter feed repeated a lame joke by Johnson about Corbyn being a chlorinated chicken.


Meanwhile, John McDonnell comes out with the cleverest  joke in the Commons all week and the BBC coverage blanks it.

Javid and McDonnell's dad's were both bus drivers. McDonnell said: you know what they say about Chancellors of the Exchequer whose dads drove buses? You wait years for one then another one come along immediately afterwards.

Hahahahaha, Had me falling over Jeremy Corbyn sat on the floor in the isle.

[idler]

BBC Twitter feed repeated a lame joke by Johnson about Corbyn being a chlorinated chicken.


Meanwhile, John McDonnell comes out with the cleverest  joke in the Commons all week and the BBC coverage blanks it.

Javid and McDonnell's dad's were both bus drivers. McDonnell said: you know what they say about Chancellors of the Exchequer whose dads drove buses? You wait years for one then another one come along immediately afterwards.

Hahahahaha, Had me falling over Jeremy Corbyn sat on the floor in the isle.

You should watch where you're walking then BB.😉

[Bentley Bullet]

BBC Twitter feed repeated a lame joke by Johnson about Corbyn being a chlorinated chicken.


Meanwhile, John McDonnell comes out with the cleverest  joke in the Commons all week and the BBC coverage blanks it.

Javid and McDonnell's dad's were both bus drivers. McDonnell said: you know what they say about Chancellors of the Exchequer whose dads drove buses? You wait years for one then another one come along immediately afterwards.

Hahahahaha, Had me falling over Jeremy Corbyn sat on the floor in the isle.

You should watch where you're walking then BB.😉

Yes, I should have done, but with all the empty seats I never thought There'd be anybody sat on the floor!

[SydneyRover]

''PMQs verdict: Johnson resorts to machismo and cheap jibes

In his first PMQs, PM may have set a new record for dodging detail and questions of policy''

''Johnson was also even more dishonest than usual. Corbyn said Michael Gove told Andrew Marr that food prices would go up in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Johnson claimed Gove said no such thing. But here is the quote. Asked if food prices would go up, Gove said:

Some prices may go up. Other prices will come down''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/04/pmqs-verdict-boris-johnson-resorts-to-machismo-and-cheap-jibes

[Colemans Left Hook]

Tonight - if everyone follows through on what they have said they will do - Johnson and Cummings will expel Winston Churchill's grandson from the Tory Party for standing up for the project his grandfather initiated.

Good luck in the forthcoming election #VoteTory for Stalinism in the UK

i wish people would get facts right about Churchill & the Conservative Party

Churchill represented five constituencies during his career as a Member of Parliament (MP). Ideologically an economic liberal and imperialist, for most of his career he was a member of the Conservative Party, which he led from 1940 to 1955, but from 1904 to 1924 was a member of the Liberal Party.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bizarre stuff going on in Parliament tonight

A bunch of Brexit-supporting Labour MPs put an amendment to the No Deal blocking Bill, saying that Parliament should effectively resurrect May's Deal.

No-one really supported it.

The MPs were doing it to make a point to their constituents.

They had a vote.

It should have been defeated by a mile.

It won.

It won, because the MPs who opposed it went into the No lobby....



...and the Govt had sent no Tellers to count them.

Either a quite astonishing mistake. Or, a f**king disgraceful deliberate action.

[wilts rover]

Tonight - if everyone follows through on what they have said they will do - Johnson and Cummings will expel Winston Churchill's grandson from the Tory Party for standing up for the project his grandfather initiated.

Good luck in the forthcoming election #VoteTory for Stalinism in the UK

i wish people would get facts right about Churchill & the Conservative Party

Churchill represented five constituencies during his career as a Member of Parliament (MP). Ideologically an economic liberal and imperialist, for most of his career he was a member of the Conservative Party, which he led from 1940 to 1955, but from 1904 to 1924 was a member of the Liberal Party.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

Which fact have I got wrong please? Was Winston Churchill's grandson expelled from the Tory Party or not last night? He said he was in his speech today giving credit to:

"my right-honourable friend the Prime Minister, the Leader of the House and other members of the Cabinet whose serial disloyalty has been an inspiration for so many of us."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/churchills-grandson-close-tears-condemns-19488642

[MachoMadness]

Either a quite astonishing mistake. Or, a f**king disgraceful deliberate action.

I think I know which option my money's on.

[SydneyRover]

When johnson is booted out the new leader can offer the 'rebels' a seat back in the tent

[SydneyRover]

Hopefully the antics over the last 3 years has registered with young voters.

''More than 100,000 apply to register to vote in UK in 48 hours

Young people make up bulk of new applications, with Britain poised for snap general election''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/04/more-than-100000-people-apply-register-vote-youth-uk-general-election

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dngbbc/status/1169328487980830721

He can't help himself can he. Just can't help himself. He lies as easily as he breathes.

I had a work colleague like that. Put him on the spot and he'd lie and he'd keep lying. He was a f**king nightmare. And now we've got one like him running the country.

Anyo e who just shrugs at this doesn't have much faith in what our country SHOULD be.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The f**king brassneck of some of the Tories.

He's just stood in Parliament and said there has to be a GE because Parliament has fudged and delayed Brexit.

He voted against May's Deal three times.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Tonight - if everyone follows through on what they have said they will do - Johnson and Cummings will expel Winston Churchill's grandson from the Tory Party for standing up for the project his grandfather initiated.

Good luck in the forthcoming election #VoteTory for Stalinism in the UK

i wish people would get facts right about Churchill & the Conservative Party

Churchill represented five constituencies during his career as a Member of Parliament (MP). Ideologically an economic liberal and imperialist, for most of his career he was a member of the Conservative Party, which he led from 1940 to 1955, but from 1904 to 1924 was a member of the Liberal Party.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

Which fact have I got wrong please? Was Winston Churchill's grandson expelled from the Tory Party or not last night? He said he was in his speech today giving credit to:

"my right-honourable friend the Prime Minister, the Leader of the House and other members of the Cabinet whose serial disloyalty has been an inspiration for so many of us."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/churchills-grandson-close-tears-condemns-19488642

sorry wilts I wasn't having a go at you I used the word "people" (plural) you "believed" what you were "fed". I discovered this fact a few years ago. I meant the headline "grabbers" that "fed" you the information

[bpoolrover]

The f**king brassneck of some of the Tories.

He's just stood in Parliament and said there has to be a GE because Parliament has fudged and delayed Brexit.

He voted against May's Deal three times.

hasn’t Corbyn and others done the same called for a ge then not took 1 as said just about all of them are looking out for themselves

[MachoMadness]

Not the same thing. In this case Labour have put their own ambitions on the back burner to prevent Boris forcing no deal. If they took the GE Boris could just change the date after it was called and no one could do a thing about it and we'd crash out.

[RedJ]

The f**king brassneck of some of the Tories.

He's just stood in Parliament and said there has to be a GE because Parliament has fudged and delayed Brexit.

He voted against May's Deal three times.

hasn’t Corbyn and others done the same called for a ge then not took 1 as said just about all of them are looking out for themselves

Literally every post you put in the off topic section essentially boils down to "they're all the same and they're all just in it for themselves". Regardless of how many times it's pointed out to you that that isn't the case. And then follows more whatabouttery. I don't understand it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool.

Every party is trying to get an advantage.

Yes. Of course they are. What do you want them to do? Manoeuvre themselves into a position where they will lose?

[Bentley Bullet]

Well, you want Boris to! and if you actually were as bright as you keep telling everybody you are you'd suspect that we'd all be better off leaving with no deal under Boris than even remaining under Jezza!

[bpoolrover]

No bst I would prefer them
To stop the bull shit that it’s about brexit

[BillyStubbsTears]

But it IS about Brexit for a lot of them.

Here's the thing.

Just because we've got an amoral, self-serving Kitson as PM,that doesn't mean that all MPs are amoral, self-serving Kitsons.

Most of them go into politics because they have a drive to take the country in their direction. Disagree with them for sure, but if you assume they're just on the make, you're doing most of them a disservice.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The one good thing about the past two days is that the DUP's magic money tree has disappeared as they've suddenly become completely irrelevant.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Not the same thing. In this case Labour (Turkeys)have put their own ambitions on the back burner to prevent Boris forcing no deal. If they took the GE Boris could just change the date after it was called and no one could do a thing about it and we'd crash out.

Turkeys tend not to vote for Christmas ...  and the end of the Labour party  as we know it.

[Padge_DRFC]

BST remain would have won if people like you up and down the country didn't exist. It's people like you preaching and thinking you know it all that the sort of person who gets to the ballot box and thinks. Sod them I'm voting....

[SydneyRover]

But how do you know that Padge, do you know it all? 

[SydneyRover]

If people took or had taken more interest in politics and the future of the country there would have been no brexit in the first place, those that are disinterested or too lazy to think for themselves and taking cues from boris and his ilk that only want outcomes that suit themselves are the problem I would have thought. And we get back to the circular debate, there has been nothing stated from a single credible economist that says Britain will be better off with any form of brexit.

Please anyone tell me what they want from brexit and how the country will be better.

[GazLaz]

Ken Clarke stops up in the debate last night and said BJ just can’t be trusted and everything he says is fabricated. It was quite strong stuff.