General Election 2019 - 12th December

[Bentley Bullet]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

And it is attitudes like yours that stops people endearing to the Labour party.

[rtid88]

Haha!! If peoples attitudes are why you don't vote for a party than you need to grow up a bit BB.... I vote for a party because of their policies and the way I think they could make a difference in this once great country... I vote for a party that I think will do the best to fulfil the promises it makes and I don't just associate a party with their leader but with the party as a whole.

[wilts rover]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

And it is attitudes like yours that stops people endearing to the Labour party.

Are you denying all those have suffered under the Tories (now supported by the BP) BB? Really?

[drfchound]

But don’t forget, a vote for Labour might put Corbyn in number ten.
Even some Labour Party members don’t want that.

[scawsby steve]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

so unless we vote labour were awful people then lol

You said it not me...

You need to get off your moral high horse. It's people like you, with your condescending attitude, that's putting people off voting Labour.

[Iberian Red]

Haha!! If peoples attitudes are why you don't vote for a party than you need to grow up a bit BB.... I vote for a party because of their policies and the way I think they could make a difference in this once great country... I vote for a party that I think will do the best to fulfil the promises it makes and I don't just associate a party with their leader but with the party as a whole.

 
Someone making a fool of you on a forum shouldn't dictate the way you vote. However,some people are as thick as short planks.

[Iberian Red]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

so unless we vote labour were awful people then lol

You said it not me...

You need to get off your moral high horse. It's people like you, with your condescending attitude, that's putting people off voting Labour.

It's also people like you that make me hope the youth of today have more brain cells than the ageing bitter voters of the past.

[rtid88]

I'm on my moral high ground because I'm sick of this country being treated as a play thing by the Tory party to make themselves and their friends richer... I'm sick of the NHS being used as a political game rather than the fantastic but heavily underfunded service that it is... I'm sick of seeing the numbers of homeless people increasing by the day.... I'm sick of seeing the increasing number of people needing to use Food Banks to just get through the week.... I'm sick of schools, police forces and  the Fire Brigade being severely underfunded...
I'm sick of Brexit getting in the way of the day to day running of the country by a party that for the last 3 and a half years have done nothing about it...
You might not like my attitude, but I'm pretty sure my attitude is not the reason why you won't vote for Labour...

[Bentley Bullet]

Then boast about your great party and what they're going to do instead of pouring scorn on the opposition.

Read this from one of your own party, you might believe him.
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=274124.msg920282#msg920282

[wilts rover]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

so unless we vote labour were awful people then lol

I wouldn't go that far, but you have to take responsibilty for the effects of the policies and actions of the party you do vote for. And rtid88's list is but a short snapshot of the misery that has been heaped on millions in this country under 9 years of Tory rule.

14 million in poverty. 1.5 million in destitution. The United Nations saying that the UK's social safety net has been "deliberately removed and replaced with a harsh and uncaring ethos" due to "ideological" cuts to public services with "tragic consequences".

Vote for that with a clear conscience if you will.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48354692

[BillyStubbsTears]

Then boast about your great party and what they're going to do instead of pouring scorn on the opposition.

We have done. Frequently. You've ignored it. Yet you always respond when there's the whiff of a criticism in the air.

[SydneyRover]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

so unless we vote labour were awful people then lol

I wouldn't go that far, but you have to take responsibilty for the effects of the policies and actions of the party you do vote for. And rtid88's list is but a short snapshot of the misery that has been heaped on millions in this country under 9 years of Tory rule.

14 million in poverty. 1.5 million in destitution. The United Nations saying that the UK's social safety net has been "deliberately removed and replaced with a harsh and uncaring ethos" due to "ideological" cuts to public services with "tragic consequences".

Vote for that with a clear conscience if you will.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48354692

Quoting facts again Wilts you know that doesn't cut it.

[SydneyRover]

Then boast about your great party and what they're going to do instead of pouring scorn on the opposition.

Read this from one of your own party, you might believe him.
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=274124.msg920282#msg920282

ere Marge wots all this abart a ruski report? nothing innit really George just the Tories dressing up for Xmas luv

Rossiya – svyashchennaya nasha derzhava,
Rossiya – lyubimaya nasha strana.
Moguchaya volya, velikaya slava –
Tvoio dostoyanye na vse vremena!
Slav'sya, Otechestvo nashe svobodnoye,
Bratskih narodov soyuz vekovoi,
Predkami dannaya mudrost' narodnaya!
Slav'sya, strana! My gordimsya toboi!
Ot yuzhnyh morei do polyarnogo kraya
Raskinulis' nashi lesa i polya.
Odna ty na svete! Odna ty takaya –
Khranimaya Bogom…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze9J82qfzUo

   

[Bentley Bullet]

Then boast about your great party and what they're going to do instead of pouring scorn on the opposition.

We have done. Frequently. You've ignored it. Yet you always respond when there's the whiff of a criticism in the air.

So you've frequently told us about your great party, despite also frequently pouring scorn on your leader, and then you accuse ME of responding with a whiff of criticism!

You have castigated Jeremy Corbyn more than I have, and now you want me to vote for him!

[rtid88]

Then boast about your great party and what they're going to do instead of pouring scorn on the opposition.

We have done. Frequently. You've ignored it. Yet you always respond when there's the whiff of a criticism in the air.

So you've frequently told us about your great party, despite also frequently pouring scorn on your leader, and then you accuse ME of responding with a whiff of criticism!

You have castigated Jeremy Corbyn more than I have, and now you want me to vote for him!

Don't expect you to do anything but you vote for a party and the parties policies not an individual...

[SydneyRover]

Then boast about your great party and what they're going to do instead of pouring scorn on the opposition.

We have done. Frequently. You've ignored it. Yet you always respond when there's the whiff of a criticism in the air.

So you've frequently told us about your great party, despite also frequently pouring scorn on your leader, and then you accuse ME of responding with a whiff of criticism!

You have castigated Jeremy Corbyn more than I have, and now you want me to vote for him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfICBxqb2cg

[scawsby steve]

It's pretty clear that anyone who votes for the Tory or Brexit party don't give a shiny shite about the NHS, homelessness, people needing food banks, crime figures, schools, the list could go on and on....

so unless we vote labour were awful people then lol

You said it not me...

You need to get off your moral high horse. It's people like you, with your condescending attitude, that's putting people off voting Labour.

It's also people like you that make me hope the youth of today have more brain cells than the ageing bitter voters of the past.

Wey hey, Coco the Clown's back, looking for approval from a few lefties.

Nothing wrong with my brain cells sunshine.

Just keep your eyes on December 12th.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Because I'm a grown up BB. I accept that life is full of imperfect choices.

Yes I have serious criticisms of Corbyn.

But they pale into insignificance when set aside the lies and deceit of Johnson and Farage.

Yes I have my criticisms of some aspects of Labour policy. But I'm a grown up. I accept that I have to make a decision between imperfect policy slates. And the criticisms I have of Labour's policies are nothing compared to what I think about the Tory and Brexit Party policies.

And, finally, I will always make my choice based on the policies set out, and my opinions on the politicians who set them out. Never on perceived slights from people in an impassioned discussion.

Because I'm a grown up. I hope and trust that everyone is when they go into the polling booth.

[BillyStubbsTears]

SS.

You're at it again.

You tell us you will never support the Tories. But you're goading people about a date when, most likely, the Tories will win.

Almost like all that matters is other people being upset.

[rtid88]

Because I'm a grown up BB. I accept that life is full of imperfect choices.

Yes I have serious criticisms of Corbyn.

But they pale into insignificance when set aside the lies and deceit of Johnson and Farage.

Yes I have my criticisms of some aspects of Labour policy. But I'm a grown up. I accept that I have to make a decision between imperfect policy slates. And the criticisms I have of Labour's policies are nothing compared to what I think about the Tory and Brexit Party policies.

And, finally, I will always make my choice based on the policies set out, and my opinions on the politicians who set them out. Never on perceived slights from people in an impassioned discussion.

Because I'm a grown up. I hope and trust that everyone is when they go into the polling booth.

Best post on this thread!! Well said BST!!!

[Bentley Bullet]

Because I'm a grown up BB. I accept that life is full of imperfect choices.

Yes I have serious criticisms of Corbyn.

But they pale into insignificance when set aside the lies and deceit of Johnson and Farage.

Yes I have my criticisms of some aspects of Labour policy. But I'm a grown up. I accept that I have to make a decision between imperfect policy slates. And the criticisms I have of Labour's policies are nothing compared to what I think about the Tory and Brexit Party policies.

And, finally, I will always make my choice based on the policies set out, and my opinions on the politicians who set them out. Never on perceived slights from people in an impassioned discussion.

Because I'm a grown up. I hope and trust that everyone is when they go into the polling booth.

Well lets hope you've grown up enough to respect other people's views in future then.

By the way, what policy has labour set out for Brexit?

[SydneyRover]

Not a lot of introspection from the forum right wing of their own parties and leaders, afraid to lift the carpet?

[BillyStubbsTears]

It depends BB.

If people set out views with reason, and engage in serious discussion, I'll always respect them, whether I agree with them or not.

If they ignore reasoned argument, and are impervious to facts and truth, there's nothing to respect.

[DonnyOsmond]

Because I'm a grown up BB. I accept that life is full of imperfect choices.

Yes I have serious criticisms of Corbyn.

But they pale into insignificance when set aside the lies and deceit of Johnson and Farage.

Yes I have my criticisms of some aspects of Labour policy. But I'm a grown up. I accept that I have to make a decision between imperfect policy slates. And the criticisms I have of Labour's policies are nothing compared to what I think about the Tory and Brexit Party policies.

And, finally, I will always make my choice based on the policies set out, and my opinions on the politicians who set them out. Never on perceived slights from people in an impassioned discussion.

Because I'm a grown up. I hope and trust that everyone is when they go into the polling booth.

Well lets hope you've grown up enough to respect other people's views in future then.

By the way, what policy has labour set out for Brexit?

Hasn't Labours policy on Brexit been mentioned numerous times?

[Bentley Bullet]

It depends BB.

If people set out views with reason, and engage in serious discussion, I'll always respect them, whether I agree with them or not.

If they ignore reasoned argument, and are impervious to facts and truth, there's nothing to respect.

Once again BST, it is you that's ignoring reasoned argument. Now answer the question man.

[SydneyRover]

perverse
/pəˈvəːs/
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adjective
adjective: perverse

    1.
    showing a deliberate and obstinate desire to behave in a way that is unreasonable or unacceptable.
    "Kate's perverse decision not to cooperate held good"

[Bentley Bullet]

Not a lot of introspection from the forum right wing of their own parties and leaders, afraid to lift the carpet?

I'm not trying to get you to change your vote, though, I'm just defending the right to vote differently to you without a condescending response.

[Bentley Bullet]

perverse
/pəˈvəːs/
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adjective
adjective: perverse

    1.
    showing a deliberate and obstinate desire to behave in a way that is unreasonable or unacceptable.
    "Kate's perverse decision not to cooperate held good"

Is that your psychiatric report?

[scawsby steve]

SS.

You're at it again.

You tell us you will never support the Tories. But you're goading people about a date when, most likely, the Tories will win.

Almost like all that matters is other people being upset.

In case you'd not noticed BST, he goaded me first, suggesting I'd no brain cells, something he does quite often on here.

If people attack me, I attack back.

[Bentley Bullet]

BST, I think it's time you shuffled your cabinet up.