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Branton Rover

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Question for the board
« on January 16, 2020, 07:23:19 pm by Branton Rover »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu



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lee.j09

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #1 on January 16, 2020, 07:35:54 pm by lee.j09 »
Gavin Baldwin’s comments at the start of the season with regards signing a striker who may get an injury set alarm bells ringing for me.

keith79

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #2 on January 16, 2020, 07:38:03 pm by keith79 »
Baldwin doesn't say much.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #3 on January 16, 2020, 07:39:33 pm by Alan Southstand »
Nobody from the Board says much!

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #4 on January 16, 2020, 07:50:49 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Why should they?

since-1969

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #5 on January 16, 2020, 08:15:49 pm by since-1969 »
Why should they?
Because they are taking the pish by taking best supporters club awards when they don’t even speak to anyone officially . They serve up S*** food and service via Counterpoint and ignore pleas for a any fans representation on the board because they want to keep it all under raps to avoid answering Qs .
DRFC are on their third manager in 2 years . Mangers recently  have left the club because of its lack of ambition to lift the club into a competing club . The reliance now on loans demonstrates its ultra cautious approach to its day to day running . A recent tax bill paid late says that they are running on the fumes of last season cup run and now with money from transfers being held back to build a Rovers squad wholly own by the club . Let’s face it are watching Wolves, QPR , Arsenal etc that good for a loan player but not if  you’re the player on bench it makes you feel that putting on  the shirt is only ceremonial . 

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #6 on January 16, 2020, 08:20:34 pm by Michael Gibson »
Well spoken 1969, something is not right big time, yet dwindling gates, no money for signings, no communication from the board and an exodus of players and still people say all’s well???

IDM

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #7 on January 16, 2020, 08:21:19 pm by IDM »
The tax bill situation has been explained on here repeatedly..  that you bring it up to misrepresent something kind of negates your arguments..

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #8 on January 16, 2020, 08:27:38 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Comedy gold!

since-1969

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #9 on January 16, 2020, 08:35:35 pm by since-1969 »
Well spoken 1969, something is not right big time, yet dwindling gates, no money for signings, no communication from the board and an exodus of players and still people say all’s well???
The board are doing what business men do by trying the utmost not over spend . I can’t begin to imagine what it must be like to be in a position where you are developing a football club PART TIME and running your own business interests along side . As a fan over 50 years I’m not complaining at what is on offer but sceptical as to where it says it wants to be. If we had gained promotion last season would they have spent to stay up or stayed with what had got them there. We will never know that answer , but we certainly now what happened next with players leaving in the hordes and the frustration we are all feeling about players not coming in and who are definitely needed to keep the obvious progress going . Last season a momentum was allowed to grow , but now it’s like watching race car with its hand  brake on .

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #10 on January 16, 2020, 08:38:19 pm by silent majority »
Why should they?
Because they are taking the pish by taking best supporters club awards when they don’t even speak to anyone officially . They serve up S*** food and service via Counterpoint and ignore pleas for a any fans representation on the board because they want to keep it all under raps to avoid answering Qs .
DRFC are on their third manager in 2 years . Mangers recently  have left the club because of its lack of ambition to lift the club into a competing club . The reliance now on loans demonstrates its ultra cautious approach to its day to day running . A recent tax bill paid late says that they are running on the fumes of last season cup run and now with money from transfers being held back to build a Rovers squad wholly own by the club . Let’s face it are watching Wolves, QPR , Arsenal etc that good for a loan player but not if  you’re the player on bench it makes you feel that putting on  the shirt is only ceremonial . 


Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong again. This is all claptrap.

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #11 on January 16, 2020, 08:38:24 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
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DRFC are on their third manager in 2 years . Mangers recently  have left the club because of its lack of ambition to lift the club into a competing club .

Absolute grade A b*llocks.

Whatever the reason Ferguson left (and I don't for one second believe it's because he wasn't being financially supported) we finished in the play offs the following season. And we were the length of Marquis's big toe or Marosi's stud from being in the play-off final. So we clearly and unquestionably were a "competing club" the season after he left.

McCann was head hunted by a club in a higher division. And, 7 months after he left us in a shambles, we are in 5th place in the PPG table.

So we are clearly and unquestionably a "competing club" after McCann left us.

I don't know what the cause is of your gripe with the Board, but it doesn't half result in you posting so daft shite in here.

silent majority

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #12 on January 16, 2020, 08:39:42 pm by silent majority »
Well spoken 1969, something is not right big time, yet dwindling gates, no money for signings, no communication from the board and an exodus of players and still people say all’s well???
The board are doing what business men do by trying the utmost not over spend . I can’t begin to imagine what it must be like to be in a position where you are developing a football club PART TIME and running your own business interests along side . As a fan over 50 years I’m not complaining at what is on offer but sceptical as to where it says it wants to be. If we had gained promotion last season would they have spent to stay up or stayed with what had got them there. We will never know that answer , but we certainly now what happened next with players leaving in the hordes and the frustration we are all feeling about players not coming in and who are definitely needed to keep the obvious progress going . Last season a momentum was allowed to grow , but now it’s like watching race car with its hand  brake on .

Part time?? Who's still running a business?

Wrong again.

silent majority

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #13 on January 16, 2020, 08:42:48 pm by silent majority »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.


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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #14 on January 16, 2020, 08:44:56 pm by roversdude »
Maybe not much call for mangers now the nativities are over

since-1969

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #15 on January 16, 2020, 08:54:20 pm by since-1969 »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.
DRFC are shopping in the basement of the lower leagues . We boast about selling our best player for decent fee and to a promotion rival to boot , yet we don’t know player or club who we’ve been chasing as his replacement. In this a multi social media time , there hasn’t been a denial or an out right rejection of an offer made by DRFC which says that we are asking but not offering anything to anyone , after all if a club is to sell it needs an offer to consider first and there is little evidence of that .
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silent majority

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #16 on January 16, 2020, 08:55:48 pm by silent majority »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.
DRFC are shopping in the basement of the lower leagues . We boast about selling our best player for decent fee and to a promotion rival to boot , yet we don’t know player or club who we’ve been chasing as his replacement. In this a multi social media time , there hasn’t been a denial or an out right rejection of an offer made by DRFC.

I have no idea what that means.

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #17 on January 16, 2020, 08:56:18 pm by Alickismyhero »
I share the general concern about the lack of players coming in but for me that's as far as it goes.

My main concern this season was to avoid relegation so to be in the position we are now in I am happy. When BIG D came in we were in big trouble and look where we are now.


My advice is don't panic and get off the back of BIG D and the board it will be ok in the end, trust me!

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #18 on January 16, 2020, 08:57:02 pm by roversdude »
WTF are you wittering on about - who has boasted about selling Marquis etc

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #19 on January 16, 2020, 08:58:56 pm by graingrover »
I know nothing as they say but I believe Darren Moore is his own man doing things his way .

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #20 on January 16, 2020, 09:11:24 pm by godlike1 »
Why should they?
Because they are taking the pish by taking best supporters club awards when they don’t even speak to anyone officially . They serve up S*** food and service via Counterpoint and ignore pleas for a any fans representation on the board because they want to keep it all under raps to avoid answering Qs .
DRFC are on their third manager in 2 years . Mangers recently  have left the club because of its lack of ambition to lift the club into a competing club . The reliance now on loans demonstrates its ultra cautious approach to its day to day running . A recent tax bill paid late says that they are running on the fumes of last season cup run and now with money from transfers being held back to build a Rovers squad wholly own by the club . Let’s face it are watching Wolves, QPR , Arsenal etc that good for a loan player but not if  you’re the player on bench it makes you feel that putting on  the shirt is only ceremonial . 

Agreed, we are actually not the most demanding of fans compared to other clubs so even just someone explaining the strategy, what's happening with the 16 or so players out of contract etc. It's. All very amateurish and embarrassing

IDM

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #21 on January 16, 2020, 09:12:28 pm by IDM »
What exactly is embarrassing.?

godlike1

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #22 on January 16, 2020, 09:14:47 pm by godlike1 »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.



He has clearly identified the players. If it's not a finance issue why can he not get them over the line?

That says to me its a finance issue

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #23 on January 16, 2020, 09:16:27 pm by silent majority »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.



He has clearly identified the players. If it's not a finance issue why can he not get them over the line?

That says to me its a finance issue

But it's not. He's biding his time on bringing in the players he sees as the 'right' ones for this club.

godlike1

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« Reply #24 on January 16, 2020, 09:18:05 pm by godlike1 »
What exactly is embarrassing.?

That we are still having these sorts. Of. Debates 7 months after DM started.

That we have 16 players out of contract after having something like 14.last year. Where is the long term planning? The sustainable planning? The board have been in long enough to get on with things.

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Re: Question for the board
« Reply #25 on January 16, 2020, 09:19:44 pm by the vicar »
Nobody from the Board says much!
most of the board are out of the country at minute

IDM

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« Reply #26 on January 16, 2020, 09:20:16 pm by IDM »
I think there is a difference between “frustrating” and “embarrassing”..

Is our current form, league position, one of the best defences in the division, etc embarrasing.?

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« Reply #27 on January 16, 2020, 09:21:29 pm by silent majority »
Nobody from the Board says much!
most of the board are out of the country at minute

Are they? At least two of them are in the country.


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« Reply #28 on January 16, 2020, 09:22:02 pm by godlike1 »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.



He has clearly identified the players. If it's not a finance issue why can he not get them over the line?

That says to me its a finance issue

But it's not. He's biding his time on bringing in the players he sees as the 'right' ones for this club.

That is not what he's saying publically though is it? If we are trying to get them over the line it's that hes identified them and negotiations have started surely.

If DM had simply said that at the beginning, yes we'd most likely all be scratching our heads but leave it at that and accept it to some degree.

What does that statement mean though? Is it about their character and current ability? Is it about developing them? Or is it to fit what little money he has?

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« Reply #29 on January 16, 2020, 09:23:51 pm by silent majority »
I’m wholly supportive of the board and it’s safety first approach to expenditure and not to jeopardise the club and it’s future sustainability - however that said, having acquired DM as our manager we surely don’t want another summer of upheaval by losing Big Darren to the lure of another club who have finances to substantially back him.

Darren has publicly acknowledged himself we’ve missed out on January targets & has said he’s not happy to leave this window without additions to the squad.

I well remember boards from the 80’s with zero ambition like when we signed Paul Dobson from Torquay he had a clause in his contract when he hit 15 goals we were obliged to send Torquay another £5k - he got up to 14 goals in no time and spent the rest of his time with us sat in the main stand at Belle Vue, comparisons from then to now is ridiculous, however if the manager doesn’t get backed I’m afraid we may experience dejavu

Branton, the tone of your post suggests that you think finance is the root cause of this, and because of that you believe the board are at fault.

This is NOT a finance issue, this is purely DM wanting to bide his time and appoint players who are on his Plan A list, nothing more than that.



He has clearly identified the players. If it's not a finance issue why can he not get them over the line?

That says to me its a finance issue

But it's not. He's biding his time on bringing in the players he sees as the 'right' ones for this club.

That is not what he's saying publically though is it? If we are trying to get them over the line it's that hes identified them and negotiations have started surely.

If DM had simply said that at the beginning, yes we'd most likely all be scratching our heads but leave it at that and accept it to some degree.

What does that statement mean though? Is it about their character and current ability? Is it about developing them? Or is it to fit what little money he has?

For the thirtieth time today its not money.

 

 

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