Ozturk - give him a Yellow ....

[Donnywolf]

... Shirt the bloke obviously thinks hes a Keeper
Cheating cynical g*t

[Rovers91]

Taylor should have done a lot better after he handled it.

[mushRTID]

Didn’t he do same in home game?

And should have given a blatent pen away last year away?

[5 on Tour]

Didn’t he do same in home game?

And should have given a blatent pen away last year away?

Yup he was the handball at our place as well. Under the totting up process he should now have a red. 2 yellows. Same thing. Same spot. 3 weeks apart against the same team.

[dickos1]

Home game was worse
Can’t blame the ref today though, the advantage was the correct decision

[Donnywolf]

Didn’t he do same in home game?

And should have given a blatent pen away last year away?

He got 2 hands to the Ball at Keepmoat at full stretch with 2 players streaking towards goal

[IDM]

But ten yards in our half with a covering defender.. wasn’t a dogso - tonight’s was a closer call..

[BillyStubbsTears]

No question whatsoever that was a DOGSO moment tonight.

I wonder what the card would have been if the ball hadn't landed with Taylor.

I also wonder whether there'd have been a red if their lad hadn't got a toe on the ball at the end of the first half, before he went studs-deep into Taylor's knee. Shocking challenge, that one. And he won the free kick!

[pib]

How is it DOGSO when we went on to have a goal scoring opportunity?

[drfchound]

No question whatsoever that was a DOGSO moment tonight.

I wonder what the card would have been if the ball hadn't landed with Taylor.

I also wonder whether there'd have been a red if their lad hadn't got a toe on the ball at the end of the first half, before he went studs-deep into Taylor's knee. Shocking challenge, that one. And he won the free kick!

My thoughts too BST (about the handball).
Ozturk can count himself very lucky that the ball fell to Taylor because Ennis would have been clear through on goal had Ozturk not stopped the ball with his hand.

[godlike1]

What the he was doing falling over a blade of grass though? I like him and he clearly likes playing for DM but..............

[PDX_Rover]

Kitson should have been off.

[BillyStubbsTears]

How is it DOGSO when we went on to have a goal scoring opportunity?

Reyt. THESE are the exchanges I like.

It is self evident that the emergence of a second GSO does not preclude the existence of a prior DOGSO. Ozturk denied A GSO. The fact that a second GSO emerged from that action is, philosophically, of no import.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Actually this is a REYT philosophical can of worms.

Are you saying that, if I go out tomorrow and randomly shoot someone, and, having struck them, the bullet ricochets and hits the doorbell of a doctor who rushes out and saves their life, I shouldn't be prosecuted?

[pib]

How is it DOGSO when we went on to have a goal scoring opportunity?

Reyt. THESE are the exchanges I like.

It is self evident that the emergence of a second GSO does not preclude the existence of a prior DOGSO. Ozturk denied A GSO. The fact that a second GSO emerged from that action is, philosophically, of no import.

Reyt.. But we got the advantage, went through on goal and cocked it up. The ref gave Ozturk the correct punishment at the next stoppage in play (a yellow card).

What’s the issue? Other than the lack of overlap between philosophy and the rules of the game?

Let’s hope for a different ref next time. Perhaps Freud, Lacan, Plato...

[pib]

Actually this is a REYT philosophical can of worms.

Are you saying that, if I go out tomorrow and randomly shoot someone, and, having struck them, the bullet ricochets and hits the doorbell of a doctor who rushes out and saves their life, I shouldn't be prosecuted?

Have a day off Billy seriously.

[PDX_Rover]

He should have been sent off and then sent off again.

[Donnywolf]

                            +++++++++++++++ Breaking news ++++++++++++++++


Doncaster Knights put bid in for Ozturk
Obviously spotted his Line out abilities after the Games v them this Season and his tackling ability after last Season at SOL

[Bentley Bullet]

A DOGSO is a Red card offence. That was a textbook DOGSO.

[IDM]

I think the yellow was correct only because the handball then put Taylor through.  Shame the lad stumbled..

Another example - two examples in a couple of seconds - of the very fine margins in football..

[Bentley Bullet]

Ozturk handled the ball in order to stop a scoring opportunity. That is a Red card offence. If the ref had blown for the foul instantly the player would (or should) have been sent off. Irrespective of ref's decision to play advantage, it was clear intent to deny a scoring opportunity.

Besides that, had Ozturk not handled the ball there would probably have been a better chance to score.

[IDM]

Yes and no, one opportunity was stopped but immediately another was created.  In one immediate piece of action.

Ball doesn’t fall to Taylor, it’s a red.

Doesn’t matter, we can agree to disagree..

[Bentley Bullet]

In my opinion, for what it's worth, I'd have played advantage, and if Taylor had scored I'd have then sent Ozturk off because although the DOGSO attempt failed, there was still intent.

When Taylor fell over, I'd have then stopped the game, sent Ozturk off, and given Rovers a free-kick.

[IDM]

If football allowed an advantage play that can be brought back, as in rugby, that might have worked..

[Bentley Bullet]

It's happened many a time.

[bobjimwilly]

If football allowed an advantage play that can be brought back, as in rugby, that might have worked..

Football does allow advantage to be played in that way. It's down to referee if they choose to or not.

[i_ateallthepies]

Ennis would have been clean through on goal had he not committed the DOGSO, Taylor picked up the ball but had two defenders on him.  Not nearly a clear advantage.

[phil o sophical]

If football allowed an advantage play that can be brought back, as in rugby, that might have worked..

In terms of fair play and clarity the laws of rugby have been mentioned on more than one occasion on this forum and personally i've felt for a while that football could and should adopt some of them

[Bentley Bullet]

If football allowed an advantage play that can be brought back, as in rugby, that might have worked..

In terms of fair play and clarity the laws of rugby have been mentioned on more than one occasion on this forum and personally i've felt for a while that football could and should adopt some of them

Agree.

1) Sin binning for yellow cards.
2) official timers
3) Multi-subs

[IDM]

If football allowed an advantage play that can be brought back, as in rugby, that might have worked..

Football does allow advantage to be played in that way. It's down to referee if they choose to or not.

Not to the same extent though.  Theubpkay an advantage but rarely bring the play back for the free kick..