Author Topic: Let's talk about the Southend game (Read 13861 times)

5 on Tour · « **Reply #90 on** January 28, 2020, 12:46:07 pm by 5 on Tour »

Quote from: Reesielad on January 28, 2020, 12:25:32 pm

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Quote from: drfchound on January 28, 2020, 11:51:33 am
Quote from: 5 on Tour on January 28, 2020, 11:47:34 am
DM might try that 2-7-2 formation of Motta. Dieng in midfield.

Ha, I like that.
It could work seeing as how Dieng used to be a midfielder before becoming a keeper.

Hasn’t he tried it and they were 3-0 after 20 minutes or something similar. Don’t think it will be a lasting style.

All jokes aside, if you have a spare 5 mins give this a watch. Pretty insightful and talks about the use of inviting the press and having a goalkeeper who is comfortable with the ball.

https://youtu.be/GX8VoEw6Vxk

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That’s a really good video. Explains a lot.

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Filo · « **Reply #91 on** January 28, 2020, 12:52:38 pm by Filo »

Quote from: Metalmicky on January 28, 2020, 11:50:44 am

I'm not sure I care what exact 'formation' we play - surely it is an ever evolving situation - players aren't restricted to zones...

Ajax, total football 🤪

Reesielad · « **Reply #92 on** January 28, 2020, 12:53:40 pm by Reesielad »

Quote from: 5 on Tour on January 28, 2020, 12:46:07 pm

Quote from: Reesielad on January 28, 2020, 12:25:32 pm
Quote from: 5 on Tour on January 28, 2020, 12:13:52 pm
Quote from: drfchound on January 28, 2020, 11:51:33 am
Quote from: 5 on Tour on January 28, 2020, 11:47:34 am
DM might try that 2-7-2 formation of Motta. Dieng in midfield.

Ha, I like that.
It could work seeing as how Dieng used to be a midfielder before becoming a keeper.

Hasn’t he tried it and they were 3-0 after 20 minutes or something similar. Don’t think it will be a lasting style.

All jokes aside, if you have a spare 5 mins give this a watch. Pretty insightful and talks about the use of inviting the press and having a goalkeeper who is comfortable with the ball.

https://youtu.be/GX8VoEw6Vxk

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That’s a really good video. Explains a lot.

People that are unsure should watch it, when it’s talking about the GK part and inviting the press it says about the two CB pushing out wide, the CM dropping back and the wing backs pushing forward to receive the ball, our game plan most games and should answer a few questions when people wonder why we’re inviting the oppo on to us.

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Metalmicky · « **Reply #93 on** January 28, 2020, 01:16:10 pm by Metalmicky »

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People that are unsure should watch it, when it’s talking about the GK part and inviting the press it says about the two CB pushing out wide, the CM dropping back and the wing backs pushing forward to receive the ball, our game plan most games and should answer a few questions when people wonder why we’re inviting the oppo on to us.

However, the gerrit forrad brigade probably aren't subscribers to total football....

Cameron Rowe · « **Reply #94 on** January 28, 2020, 01:44:19 pm by Cameron Rowe »

1 dieng
2 halliday
3 james
4 wright
5 anderson
6whiteman
7sheaf
8taylor
9watters
10copps
11ennis
Id go with that team sadlier will be on bench i think. Also cole will probably come on in the second half depending on the score.

IDM · « **Reply #95 on** January 28, 2020, 01:48:13 pm by IDM »

As above but with Gomes in place of Watters....

Retdon1 · « **Reply #96 on** January 28, 2020, 01:56:51 pm by Retdon1 »

Sadlier in for Gomez and copps in for John... harsh on Gomez but IMO we don’t need 3 defensive minded midfielders for tonight’s game.

IDM · « **Reply #97 on** January 28, 2020, 02:09:19 pm by IDM »

Gomes can play as a forward minded midfielder.

Retdon1 · « **Reply #98 on** January 28, 2020, 03:54:56 pm by Retdon1 »

Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 02:09:19 pm

Gomes can play as a forward minded midfielder.

Not very well though in the games I've seen him play further forward

Bristol Red Rover · « **Reply #99 on** January 28, 2020, 03:58:50 pm by Bristol Red Rover »

Dieng
Halliday Anderson Wright James
Sheaf Whiteman
Taylor Copps Gomes
Ennis

Bench
Jones Amos Watters Sadlier Cole Blair John

Bring Sadlier on for Copps/Gomes after 60 mins
Bring Cole on for Copps/Gomes after 75 mins and play 4 4 2, see how Cole and Ennis can play together up front - this could be a fantastic partnership!

IDM · « **Reply #100 on** January 28, 2020, 04:07:40 pm by IDM »

Quote from: Retdon1 on January 28, 2020, 03:54:56 pm

Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 02:09:19 pm
Gomes can play as a forward minded midfielder.

Not very well though in the games I've seen him play further forward

Didn’t do too bad getting more advanced on Friday last.!

Retdon1 · « **Reply #101 on** January 28, 2020, 04:15:15 pm by Retdon1 »

Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 04:07:40 pm

Quote from: Retdon1 on January 28, 2020, 03:54:56 pm
Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 02:09:19 pm
Gomes can play as a forward minded midfielder.

Not very well though in the games I've seen him play further forward

Didn’t do too bad getting more advanced on Friday last.!

He didn’t create anything though or have any chances, which as an attacking midfielder you need to do

IDM · « *Last Edit: January 28, 2020, 04:24:56 pm by IDM* »

He played very well, and he also had our only shot on target.

Retdon1 · « **Reply #103 on** January 28, 2020, 04:33:15 pm by Retdon1 »

Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 04:18:55 pm

He played very well, and he also had our only shot on target.

I’m not saying he’s not improved a lot since being played centrally, I just think for tonight’s game, Copps would be a better choice in the attacking midfield role

IDM · « **Reply #104 on** January 28, 2020, 04:37:15 pm by IDM »

I don’t disagree and Copps should start IMHO, alongside Taylor and Gomes.

Retdon1 · « **Reply #105 on** January 28, 2020, 04:46:43 pm by Retdon1 »

Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 04:37:15 pm

I don’t disagree and Copps should start IMHO, alongside Taylor and Gomes.

Would u have Copps or Gomez out wide ?

drfchound · « **Reply #106 on** January 28, 2020, 04:47:17 pm by drfchound »

Quote from: Metalmicky on January 28, 2020, 01:16:10 pm

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People that are unsure should watch it, when it’s talking about the GK part and inviting the press it says about the two CB pushing out wide, the CM dropping back and the wing backs pushing forward to receive the ball, our game plan most games and should answer a few questions when people wonder why we’re inviting the oppo on to us.

However, the gerrit forrad brigade probably aren't subscribers to total football....

........or have five minutes spare to watch a video.
They would just put it on fast forward.

IDM · « **Reply #107 on** January 28, 2020, 04:53:03 pm by IDM »

Quote from: Retdon1 on January 28, 2020, 04:46:43 pm

Quote from: IDM on January 28, 2020, 04:37:15 pm
I don’t disagree and Copps should start IMHO, alongside Taylor and Gomes.

Would u have Copps or Gomez out wide ?

Copps - he’s good enough to switch between either side..

What I like about the team is the flexibility with formation and positions..

donnievic · « **Reply #108 on** January 28, 2020, 04:56:28 pm by donnievic »

Reckon copps in for John tonight with James going back to LB

sha66y · « **Reply #109 on** January 28, 2020, 04:57:27 pm by sha66y »

Dieng

Wright. Anderson. John

Halliday. James

Whiteman

Sadlier. Copps. Taylor

Ennis

Gomez
Cole
Watters
Jones
Blair
Bingham
Sheaf

IDM · « **Reply #110 on** January 28, 2020, 05:03:17 pm by IDM »

No sheaf and a formation we don’t play.?

anton123 · « **Reply #111 on** January 28, 2020, 05:18:34 pm by anton123 »

For any 1 who can’t make tonight the game is live on sky bet 👍

Campsall rover · « **Reply #112 on** January 28, 2020, 05:22:36 pm by Campsall rover »

Quote from: sha66y on January 28, 2020, 04:57:27 pm

Dieng

Wright. Anderson. John

Halliday. James

Whiteman

Sadlier. Copps. Taylor

Ennis

Gomez
Cole
Watters
Jones
Blair
Bingham
Sheaf

Your opinion but why change system. Crazy.

anton123 · « **Reply #113 on** January 28, 2020, 05:25:54 pm by anton123 »

If I was going with 3 at back sheaf in for sads and copps in behind a front 2 is Ennis and Taylor

sha66y · « **Reply #114 on** January 28, 2020, 05:47:42 pm by sha66y »

Quote from: Campsall rover on January 28, 2020, 05:22:36 pm

Quote from: sha66y on January 28, 2020, 04:57:27 pm
Dieng

Wright. Anderson. John

Halliday. James

Whiteman

Sadlier. Copps. Taylor

Ennis

Gomez
Cole
Watters
Jones
Blair
Bingham
Sheaf
Your opinion but why change system. Crazy.

Why not?
and where do you think it’s not gonna work....?
I see it as well balanced and full on attacking as it should be at home against a poor team...

It’s only an opinion .....so to say it’s crazy is only your opinion which is also crazy!

NickDRFC · « **Reply #115 on** January 28, 2020, 05:55:35 pm by NickDRFC »

Quote from: sha66y on January 28, 2020, 05:47:42 pm

Quote from: Campsall rover on January 28, 2020, 05:22:36 pm
Quote from: sha66y on January 28, 2020, 04:57:27 pm
Dieng

Wright. Anderson. John

Halliday. James

Whiteman

Sadlier. Copps. Taylor

Ennis

Gomez
Cole
Watters
Jones
Blair
Bingham
Sheaf
Your opinion but why change system. Crazy.

Why not?
and where do you think it’s not gonna work....?
I see it as well balanced and full on attacking as it should be at home against a poor team...

It’s only an opinion .....so to say it’s crazy is only your opinion which is also crazy!

You’re essentially saying that we should change our normal system by dropping one of our pivot two back to a third centre back (Sheaf for John). Why would this be any more “full on attacking” than our usual system? You might say it gives the full backs more licence to get forward but they have plenty of that anyway. Anderson and Wright have been extremely comfortable playing as a pair with the shield of Whiteman and Sheaf ahead of them, I don’t think we should bring in a system that several of the team might not be comfortable with.

Cameron Rowe · « **Reply #116 on** January 28, 2020, 05:59:30 pm by Cameron Rowe »

Think watters deserves a start.

i_ateallthepies · « **Reply #117 on** January 28, 2020, 06:19:13 pm by i_ateallthepies »

Why do you think that Cameron Rowe? What has he done with the game time he's had to 'deserve a start'?

Campsall rover · « **Reply #118 on** January 28, 2020, 06:21:38 pm by Campsall rover »

Quote from: sha66y on January 28, 2020, 05:47:42 pm

Quote from: Campsall rover on January 28, 2020, 05:22:36 pm
Quote from: sha66y on January 28, 2020, 04:57:27 pm
Dieng

Wright. Anderson. John

Halliday. James

Whiteman

Sadlier. Copps. Taylor

Ennis

Gomez
Cole
Watters
Jones
Blair
Bingham
Sheaf
Your opinion but why change system. Crazy.

Why not?
and where do you think it’s not gonna work....?
I see it as well balanced and full on attacking as it should be at home against a poor team...

It’s only an opinion .....so to say it’s crazy is only your opinion which is also crazy!

My opinion indeed. But it’s madness imo to change a system that works. Don’t need to re invent the wheel.
We had enough of that with DF.
You might think differently.

Campsall rover · « **Reply #119 on** January 28, 2020, 06:22:22 pm by Campsall rover »

Right i am off to the match.

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Author Topic: Let's talk about the Southend game (Read 13861 times)