Trump and democracy

[tyke1962]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

Aye well we all know who wins the most in a bookies v punter contest .

[wilts rover]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

According to everone else Biden won:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/cnn-poll-final-presidential-debate/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-biden-debate-who-won-snap-poll-presidential-election-b1246008.html

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/23/us/debate-trump-biden

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/23/biden-trump-presidential-debate-election-viewers

[Glyn_Wigley]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

'According to reports'? You haven't been watching the US media then. CNN had a group of a dozen North Carolinian (swing state) undecideds. None of them said Trump won the debate and all but three of them had now decided to vote Biden based on the debate they'd just watched. Which 'reports' are you talking about or are you keeping them secret as usual?

[EasyforDennis]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

'According to reports'? You haven't been watching the US media then. CNN had a group of a dozen North Carolinian (swing state) undecideds. None of them said Trump won the debate and all but three of them had now decided to vote Biden based on the debate they'd just watched. Which 'reports' are you talking about or are you keeping them secret as usual?

Let me guess. He got that information from Fox News Trumps pet channel.

[Glyn_Wigley]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

'According to reports'? You haven't been watching the US media then. CNN had a group of a dozen North Carolinian (swing state) undecideds. None of them said Trump won the debate and all but three of them had now decided to vote Biden based on the debate they'd just watched. Which 'reports' are you talking about or are you keeping them secret as usual?

Let me guess. He got that information from Fox News Trumps pet channel.

It's usually some random anonymous bloke on an unnamed radio station.

[IDM]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

Close down, or reform.?

[ravenrover]

  After Biden's poor showing last night, saying he would close down the oil industry £10 million has been bet on a trump win.
  According to reports Biden was pathetic last night, not reported on BBC of course.

You obviously didn't listen to Radio 4 news at 5.00pm then Selby,

[tyke1962]

From what I've read tonight the US are expecting the biggest voter turn out by percentage since 1908 .

I'll stick my head out and say it's to vote against Trump , as mental as the Americans are I'd be amazed if it's to support him .

He's got his multi millions of support of course he has but that's because of the size of population and it's a relative factor .

He's about at best a 12% chance of winning according to what I've read from credible sources tonight .

The only reason the democrats aren't giving it the big un is because of what happened in 2016 , even though Blair knew he was going to win in 97 they knew to not get too carried away .

I personally think Trump is heading for a real hiding .

This fecker humiliated will be about the best news the worlds had in a while .

[IDM]

It will be a “relative factor” in some parts of the States..!!

Unfortunately millions of US citizens have no idea nor care less how their country and leaders are viewed elsewhere and are stuck in 19th century mentality.

[EasyforDennis]

It will be a “relative factor” in some parts of the States..!!

Unfortunately millions of US citizens have no idea nor care less how their country and leaders are viewed elsewhere and are stuck in 19th century mentality.

19th???? You are being kind there.

[SydneyRover]

Huge voter turnout usually goes againt the incumbant but on this occasion it may be to do wirh covid. However I have read many articles on how grass roots organisations have been mobilising to nulify the gerimandering and obstructions to african americans and bame people voting.

Fingers crossed he gets smashed.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Will America really vote in a cowardly bully like this for another 4 years?

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1320519094295240712

Polls are saying he has a 1 in 8 chance. Quite astonishing that, after seeing him in action for 4 years, 40-odd% still support him. Never mind the 25,000 documented lies. The 500 kids separated from their parents at the border, put in cages and now not able to be reunited. The catastrophic dealing with COVID. The fawning to dictators and abuse at democratic allies. The Mueller report that resulted in numerous close colleagues being convicted of lying and perjury, rather than tell the truth on what they knew of Trump.

[IDM]

Fingers crossed he gets smashed.

Yes, up the arse with a baseball bat..




Sideways.!!

[ravenrover]

Iteresting interview with Fauci yesterday picking up on comments by Trump and openly disagreeing with him. Marr tried to turn it into a he said you said discussion but he politely put Marr in his place. Pity we don't have people like him in his position willing to come put and say when our Clown and his cronies are telling porkies

[BillyStubbsTears]

Marr was appalling in that interview. Worst kind of journalism. Just trying to create a scandal instead of using it to inform people.

[EasyforDennis]

Marr was appalling in that interview. Worst kind of journalism. Just trying to create a scandal instead of using it to inform people.

Tell me when isn't Marr appalling?

[drfchound]

Will America really vote in a cowardly bully like this for another 4 years?

https://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/2020/04/martin-lewis--working-from-home-due-to-coronavirus--claim-p6-wk-/?_ga=2.75919825.57767697.1603226315-1438800863.1594298240

Polls are saying he has a 1 in 8 chance. Quite astonishing that, after seeing him in action for 4 years, 40-odd% still support him. Never mind the 25,000 documented lies. The 500 kids separated from their parents at the border, put in cages and now not able to be reunited. The catastrophic dealing with COVID. The fawning to dictators and abuse at democratic allies. The Mueller report that resulted in numerous close colleagues being convicted of lying and perjury, rather than tell the truth on what they knew of Trump.

I didn’t know that Martin Lewis was such a tw@t.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Ha! That'll teach me to post without checking the link I pasted.

This was the link I meant to post.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1320519094295240712

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-calls-out-biden-for-confusing-him-with-george-w-bush-couldnt-remember-my-name-12115287

Was just reading through and saw this.  There has to be some concern about the guy's general mental fitness, particularly for another 4 years.

[SydneyRover]

Ha! That'll teach me to post without checking the link I pasted.

This was the link I meant to post.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1320519094295240712

I did wonder what the connection was after reading it twice, the bit where he accuses her of giving Biden a 'soft' interview and her reply ................... I haven't interviewed Biden!

[scawsby steve]

George Trump?

[MachoMadness]

I'd put Biden in front of Trump in any mental sharpness test you can think of!

But here's what I was worried about, and why I still think Trump will win (albeit not legitimately) - his other dodgy court pick, Brett Kavanaugh, indicates mail-in votes shouldn't be counted after election night. This means you can mail in your ballot in plenty of time, and if the state can't count it before election night, then your vote won't count. I'll be honest, I don't see how this election gets resolved peacefully, I really don't.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/in-wisconsin-ruling-supreme-court-foreshadows-election-night-cliffhanger-432725

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'd put Biden in front of Trump in any mental sharpness test you can think of!

But here's what I was worried about, and why I still think Trump will win (albeit not legitimately) - his other dodgy court pick, Brett Kavanaugh, indicates mail-in votes shouldn't be counted after election night. This means you can mail in your ballot in plenty of time, and if the state can't count it before election night, then your vote won't count. I'll be honest, I don't see how this election gets resolved peacefully, I really don't.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/in-wisconsin-ruling-supreme-court-foreshadows-election-night-cliffhanger-432725

Been saying as much for a while MM. There's no way on God's earth that Trump is accepting defeat without fighting like the deranged animal he is.

[SydneyRover]

There's a whole lot of rules for different states re posting and recieval times

https://www.brookings.edu/research/voting-by-mail-in-a-pandemic-a-state-by-state-scorecard/

[BillyStubbsTears]

If he wasn't such an obnoxious human being, Trump in late 2020 would be almost pitiable.

This was him today. Rambling like a drunk on the street corner.
https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1321548174427852801

For comparison, this was him in 2015 when he announced he was going to run for President. Still talking bullshit in content, but look at the difference in his demeanour.

https://youtu.be/apjNfkysjbM

Astonishing how deranged he has become.

And to think. After next Tuesday, when he has lost the election by 10%, he still has possession of the nuclear codes for 11 weeks.

[Donnywolf]

I'd put Biden in front of Trump in any mental sharpness test you can think of!

But here's what I was worried about, and why I still think Trump will win (albeit not legitimately) - his other dodgy court pick, Brett Kavanaugh, indicates mail-in votes shouldn't be counted after election night. This means you can mail in your ballot in plenty of time, and if the state can't count it before election night, then your vote won't count. I'll be honest, I don't see how this election gets resolved peacefully, I really don't.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/in-wisconsin-ruling-supreme-court-foreshadows-election-night-cliffhanger-432725

Been saying as much for a while MM. There's no way on God's earth that Trump is accepting defeat without fighting like the deranged animal he is.

.... be prepared for "stolen the election folks - stole it "   

.... "fake news fake result folks fake result" 


.... " illegal result folks legal challenge folks" He wont say that he isnt smart enough LOL

[MachoMadness]

Thing is the republicans have already done so much to tamper with the vote that the democrats won't accept it if he wins. And if he loses, he sure as hell won't accept that. He's created a tinderbox and I don't see any way that it doesn't get set on fire.

[EasyforDennis]

And he hasn't rushed to get US Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett so quickly for no reason.

[Dutch Uncle]

Quote from Seth Abramson:

It's sickest political plot in U.S. history: you do *nothing* to fight a pandemic; it forces people to vote by mail; a stooge slows the mail; two stolen SCOTUS seats ensure you get an opinion saying vote-counting must stop early.

*That's* how you try to steal an election.

[SydneyRover]

He's certainly in a moral free zone and capable of anything Dutch