One or two questions.....

[BobG]

Why is it only Channel 4 news leads with and points out that that the UK death rate is higher than those in Italy  and Spain? Or that UK government death statistics are major underestimates since they exclude deaths that occur outside hospital?

Why is it that no one seems willing to report the fact that far from empty Nightingale hospitals being a sign that we are 'winning', they are actually a result of doctors not being allowed to refer seriously ill Covid 19 patients to them? If they do anyway, they have to provide their own medical staff and equipment with which to treet their patient? Could it be that closing nursing schools in the interest of austerity has actually had consequences?

Why has no one highlighted the fact that our Prime Minister, prior to his being infected with Covid 19, failed to attend 5 COBRA meetings specifically called to discuss the crisis? The last time such a  crisis erupted, for the Mad Cow debacle, the then PM chaired every single meeting, listened to the experts, and made decisions based upon that advice. Sadly, none of those traits appear to have been in evidence this time around. The waste of the entire month of February is tantamount to wilfull multiple manslaughter. But no one seems willing to bring this up in the news.

Why do we clap the NHS? Is it a guilty conscience? It certainly has to be the case when one hears Conservative Ministers repeatedly bleating on about 'Our NHS'. I beg their pardon? Have they forgotten the vote in Parliament in 2017 when virtually every Tory MP voted to turn down a Labour motion to pay nurses slightly more? And despicably, when the motion was duly lost, the Tory benches, and Ministers, actually bloody cheered.

Why has no one commented on the fact that the government has, for 8 consecutive days, refused to put up any spokesperson for Channel 4 news to discuss aspects of the crisis and the government response? I was led to believe it's called Transparency and accountablity....'

I'd rather have Mrs Thatcher back.

BobG

[i_ateallthepies]

Agree with all of your sentiments there, Bob.  Actually, I watched ITV teatime news last night and was pleasantly surprised that in reporting the daily death count they did qualify it by adding that it was actually was 40% below the actual number due to nursing home and community CV19 deaths not being included.

[drfchound]

Why is it only Channel 4 news leads with and points out that that the UK death rate is higher than those in Italy  and Spain? Or that UK government death statistics are major underestimates since they exclude deaths that occur outside hospital?

Why is it that no one seems willing to report the fact that far from empty Nightingale hospitals being a sign that we are 'winning', they are actually a result of doctors not being allowed to refer seriously ill Covid 19 patients to them? If they do anyway, they have to provide their own medical staff and equipment with which to treet their patient? Could it be that closing nursing schools in the interest of austerity has actually had consequences?

Why has no one highlighted the fact that our Prime Minister, prior to his being infected with Covid 19, failed to attend 5 COBRA meetings specifically called to discuss the crisis? The last time such a  crisis erupted, for the Mad Cow debacle, the then PM chaired every single meeting, listened to the experts, and made decisions based upon that advice. Sadly, none of those traits appear to have been in evidence this time around. The waste of the entire month of February is tantamount to wilfull multiple manslaughter. But no one seems willing to bring this up in the news.

Why do we clap the NHS? Is it a guilty conscience? It certainly has to be the case when one hears Conservative Ministers repeatedly bleating on about 'Our NHS'. I beg their pardon? Have they forgotten the vote in Parliament in 2017 when virtually every Tory MP voted to turn down a Labour motion to pay nurses slightly more? And despicably, when the motion was duly lost, the Tory benches, and Ministers, actually bloody cheered.

Why has no one commented on the fact that the government has, for 8 consecutive days, refused to put up any spokesperson for Channel 4 news to discuss aspects of the crisis and the government response? I was led to believe it's called Transparency and accountablity....'

I'd rather have Mrs Thatcher back.

BobG

Bob, you are asking why no one has mentioned the above.
Do you not read this forum?
It all gets mentioned on here, times many.
Oh and by the way, I am not a Tory and I don’t clap for the NHS because of a guilty conscience.

[Filo]

I clap because my daughter works within the NHS as well as being a home carer, I also clap for the work they do in challenging conditions, theres no guilt at all here. I worry for my daughter every day she goes to work these days

[drfchound]

I clap because my daughter works within the NHS as well as being a home carer, I also clap for the work they do in challenging conditions, theres no guilt at all here. I worry for my daughter every day she goes to work these days

Credit to her a Filo and I understand your concern.
My son is a policeman and knowing what he has to deal with every day, I share your worry.

[BigH]

I clap the covid doctor eight doors down who drives for an hour every day to get to Aintree to lead her team over a 12 hour shift.

While I work from home.

[bpoolrover]

Why is it only Channel 4 news leads with and points out that that the UK death rate is higher than those in Italy  and Spain? Or that UK government death statistics are major underestimates since they exclude deaths that occur outside hospital?

Why is it that no one seems willing to report the fact that far from empty Nightingale hospitals being a sign that we are 'winning', they are actually a result of doctors not being allowed to refer seriously ill Covid 19 patients to them? If they do anyway, they have to provide their own medical staff and equipment with which to treet their patient? Could it be that closing nursing schools in the interest of austerity has actually had consequences?

Why has no one highlighted the fact that our Prime Minister, prior to his being infected with Covid 19, failed to attend 5 COBRA meetings specifically called to discuss the crisis? The last time such a  crisis erupted, for the Mad Cow debacle, the then PM chaired every single meeting, listened to the experts, and made decisions based upon that advice. Sadly, none of those traits appear to have been in evidence this time around. The waste of the entire month of February is tantamount to wilfull multiple manslaughter. But no one seems willing to bring this up in the news.

Why do we clap the NHS? Is it a guilty conscience? It certainly has to be the case when one hears Conservative Ministers repeatedly bleating on about 'Our NHS'. I beg their pardon? Have they forgotten the vote in Parliament in 2017 when virtually every Tory MP voted to turn down a Labour motion to pay nurses slightly more? And despicably, when the motion was duly lost, the Tory benches, and Ministers, actually bloody cheered.

Why has no one commented on the fact that the government has, for 8 consecutive days, refused to put up any spokesperson for Channel 4 news to discuss aspects of the crisis and the government response? I was led to believe it's called Transparency and accountablity....'

I'd rather have Mrs Thatcher back.

BobG


[/https://fullfact.org/health/queens-speech-public-sector-pay/ the answer to one of your questions

[bpoolrover]

The answer to nightingales hospital I think was they will use that when all other hospitals are full otherwise they will have staff there with not patients sometimes, I think it’s a last resort