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https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1386774351500955653This is what the BBC does best, and particularly the excellent Ros Atkins. This report looks at the pre Brexit agreement promises made in relation to UK fisheries against what’s actually being delivered. Only 4 minutes long, but very interesting and thought provoking.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on April 27, 2021, 10:59:06 amhttps://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1386774351500955653This is what the BBC does best, and particularly the excellent Ros Atkins. This report looks at the pre Brexit agreement promises made in relation to UK fisheries against what’s actually being delivered. Only 4 minutes long, but very interesting and thought provoking.Straightforward dispassionate review of the facts, thanks HA.
Quote from: SydneyRover on April 27, 2021, 01:46:16 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on April 27, 2021, 10:59:06 amhttps://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1386774351500955653This is what the BBC does best, and particularly the excellent Ros Atkins. This report looks at the pre Brexit agreement promises made in relation to UK fisheries against what’s actually being delivered. Only 4 minutes long, but very interesting and thought provoking.Straightforward dispassionate review of the facts, thanks HA.The BBC don't deal in facts, they just push agendas.
Ford closed the Bridgend factory but is investing massively in Romania. In electric cars. So the government can’t really blame China or diesel this time. So what is it? Maybe it starts with the letter “B”?
Look like it is going extremly well for everyone who wanted to see a samller economy after Brexit. You must be delighted:
Quote from: wilts rover on April 27, 2021, 03:49:49 pmLook like it is going extremly well for everyone who wanted to see a samller economy after Brexit. You must be delighted:You're probably right that the economy has shrunk........ however, do you think that Covid 19 might have also had something to do with that....?
You may be right BST. I was just curious why the most recent figures weren’t being shared which seems a little pointless to me. Especially when there’s signs of a recovery.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on April 27, 2021, 06:27:38 pmYou may be right BST. I was just curious why the most recent figures weren’t being shared which seems a little pointless to me. Especially when there’s signs of a recovery. Nothing to stop you doing it Herbert. Those are the latest figures from the ONS in graphical form - if you have others, please share.
Another excellent piece by the BBC regarding Brexit promises and reality. This time it’s about Northern Ireland. It picks apart the claims made prior to the Brexit agreement and the reality of what’s actually happening. You may, or may not be surprised to learn that what the Brexiteers and the Tory Party claimed they’d deliver is fairly distant from what they are actually delivering. Anyway, don’t take it from me. Make up your own mind. https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1387134844883308547
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on April 27, 2021, 09:54:19 pmAnother excellent piece by the BBC regarding Brexit promises and reality. This time it’s about Northern Ireland. It picks apart the claims made prior to the Brexit agreement and the reality of what’s actually happening. You may, or may not be surprised to learn that what the Brexiteers and the Tory Party claimed they’d deliver is fairly distant from what they are actually delivering. Anyway, don’t take it from me. Make up your own mind. https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1387134844883308547Simply and clearly put. Some of us have been saying that for five years. If Ireland is in the SM and CU and GB isn't, by definition you HAVE to have a border somewhere. Johnson has spent years waving away that simple logic. He insisted that there could never be a customs border between GB and NI. Then he signed a deal which required customs checks between GB and NI. Then he swore he hadn't. Now he says it is the EU's fault for really meaning it in the document that he signed.An utter embarrassment of a politician. He's lied throughout the process. And still there are millions who refuse to accept that he has and insist it is the EU's fault. As if they could somehow magic away the need for customs borders between two different sovereign areas. WE chose this when we ignored the Ireland problem when we voted for Brexit. Anyone who refused to think about that issue when they voted Leave should hold their hand up and have some responsibility for not thinking about this when it mattered.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 28, 2021, 12:39:26 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on April 27, 2021, 09:54:19 pmAnother excellent piece by the BBC regarding Brexit promises and reality. This time it’s about Northern Ireland. It picks apart the claims made prior to the Brexit agreement and the reality of what’s actually happening. You may, or may not be surprised to learn that what the Brexiteers and the Tory Party claimed they’d deliver is fairly distant from what they are actually delivering. Anyway, don’t take it from me. Make up your own mind. https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1387134844883308547Simply and clearly put. Some of us have been saying that for five years. If Ireland is in the SM and CU and GB isn't, by definition you HAVE to have a border somewhere. Johnson has spent years waving away that simple logic. He insisted that there could never be a customs border between GB and NI. Then he signed a deal which required customs checks between GB and NI. Then he swore he hadn't. Now he says it is the EU's fault for really meaning it in the document that he signed.An utter embarrassment of a politician. He's lied throughout the process. And still there are millions who refuse to accept that he has and insist it is the EU's fault. As if they could somehow magic away the need for customs borders between two different sovereign areas. WE chose this when we ignored the Ireland problem when we voted for Brexit. Anyone who refused to think about that issue when they voted Leave should hold their hand up and have some responsibility for not thinking about this when it mattered.All you had to do is put up someone electable in 2019 and it was there for the taking, maybe moaning about the idiots who thought Corbyn was a good idea for a bit may be in order #youhadonejob
Quote from: Ldr on April 28, 2021, 09:50:59 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 28, 2021, 12:39:26 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on April 27, 2021, 09:54:19 pmAnother excellent piece by the BBC regarding Brexit promises and reality. This time it’s about Northern Ireland. It picks apart the claims made prior to the Brexit agreement and the reality of what’s actually happening. You may, or may not be surprised to learn that what the Brexiteers and the Tory Party claimed they’d deliver is fairly distant from what they are actually delivering. Anyway, don’t take it from me. Make up your own mind. https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1387134844883308547Simply and clearly put. Some of us have been saying that for five years. If Ireland is in the SM and CU and GB isn't, by definition you HAVE to have a border somewhere. Johnson has spent years waving away that simple logic. He insisted that there could never be a customs border between GB and NI. Then he signed a deal which required customs checks between GB and NI. Then he swore he hadn't. Now he says it is the EU's fault for really meaning it in the document that he signed.An utter embarrassment of a politician. He's lied throughout the process. And still there are millions who refuse to accept that he has and insist it is the EU's fault. As if they could somehow magic away the need for customs borders between two different sovereign areas. WE chose this when we ignored the Ireland problem when we voted for Brexit. Anyone who refused to think about that issue when they voted Leave should hold their hand up and have some responsibility for not thinking about this when it mattered.All you had to do is put up someone electable in 2019 and it was there for the taking, maybe moaning about the idiots who thought Corbyn was a good idea for a bit may be in order #youhadonejobTo be fair LDR, if you cast your mind back to the run up to the election, Corbyn produced a leaked document which proved Johnson was lying when he said he never intended to put a border across the Irish Sea. Johnson screamed that it was untrue and the press went to town & accused Corbyn of fabricating the leak etc.. and yet it turns out that Corbyn was spot on. Yet, he’s still the bad guy?
There are 27000 families and friends thereof that are now thinking johnson wasn't a good idea.
Incredible when those without power get blamed for the actions of those with power instead of blaming those in power as they should do.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 28, 2021, 10:08:09 amIncredible when those without power get blamed for the actions of those with power instead of blaming those in power as they should do.Are you saying I'm wrong Glyn? That if Labour hadn't stuck with Corbyn they would have probably won in 2019?
Quote from: Ldr on April 28, 2021, 10:11:12 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 28, 2021, 10:08:09 amIncredible when those without power get blamed for the actions of those with power instead of blaming those in power as they should do.Are you saying I'm wrong Glyn? That if Labour hadn't stuck with Corbyn they would have probably won in 2019? Possibly. Probably. That doesn't make them culpable for Johnson's lying and obfuscation though. Unless you're also going to follow your own logic and go down the line of blaming what Trump did, or Putin continues to do, on those who didn't vote for them!
what do you want in a leader Ldr, my dog is better than johnson