The Climate Crisis

[River Don]

European gas prices hitting new highs again.

Gazprom limiting supplies into Europe apparently.

I wonder, faced with energy bills becoming something like 75% higher in the spring, how many wouldn't welcome new exploration in the North Sea and fracking back on the agenda?

It does feel like we're approaching crunch time, can we really transition to green energy, will it really be reliable and affordable?

Looking at the way we are still so reliant on gas and the way manufacturing nations are still gobbling up coal, I can't say I'm confident.

[SydneyRover]

As you are aware RD gas is a fossil fuel marginally or no better than coal, it will take a massive effort to persuade the irrationals to tackle the amount of change that will be required to solve this one.

[Axholme Lion]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

[SydneyRover]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

Well they have made some changes to the UK already

[River Don]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

Getting on with Russia seems to involve handing over Ukraine, and abandoning the Baltics, Poland and the Balcans to their fate.

And then there is still no guarantee of cheap reliable gas supplies.

[Axholme Lion]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

Getting on with Russia seems to involve handing over Ukraine, and abandoning the Baltics, Poland and the Balcans to their fate.

And then there is still no guarantee of cheap reliable gas supplies.

How many times do have to carryy on interfering in the business of other nations. If the west would stop trying to muscle in on Russia's sphere of influence none of this would be happening. The EU engineered the overthrow of the legitmate Ukraine government to install the current regime. Why should we put our neck on the line for the baltic states, what have they ever done for us?

[Colin C No.3]

Or half of Europe during World War ll?

[BillyStubbsTears]

As you are aware RD gas is a fossil fuel marginally or no better than coal, it will take a massive effort to persuade the irrationals to tackle the amount of change that will be required to solve this one.

Gas is actually much less productive of CO2 than coal for the same amount of energy produced.

Burning 1kg of anthracite releases about 3kg of CO2 and produces about 9kWh of heat.

Burning 1kg of methane releases about 2.75kg of CO2 and produces over 14kWh of heat. 

[River Don]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

Getting on with Russia seems to involve handing over Ukraine, and abandoning the Baltics, Poland and the Balcans to their fate.

And then there is still no guarantee of cheap reliable gas supplies.

How many times do have to carryy on interfering in the business of other nations. If the west would stop trying to muscle in on Russia's sphere of influence none of this would be happening. The EU engineered the overthrow of the legitmate Ukraine government to install the current regime. Why should we put our neck on the line for the baltic states, what have they ever done for us?

Places like Lithuania and Poland don't believe they are in Russia sphere of influence anymore. They overwhelmingly voted to join the EU. They now have democratic traditions, the people in these countries don't want to be a part of a new Russian empire, simple as that. Poland is a member of Nato.

Russia may not like it but times have changed.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

Getting on with Russia seems to involve handing over Ukraine, and abandoning the Baltics, Poland and the Balcans to their fate.

And then there is still no guarantee of cheap reliable gas supplies.

How many times do have to carryy on interfering in the business of other nations. If the west would stop trying to muscle in on Russia's sphere of influence none of this would be happening. The EU engineered the overthrow of the legitmate Ukraine government to install the current regime. Why should we put our neck on the line for the baltic states, what have they ever done for us?

Another bit of homework for you.

Look up "quarrel in a far away country, between people of whom we know nothing".

You'll find it educational.

[Axholme Lion]

Maybe we could stop demonising Russia and try to get on with them for a change?

Getting on with Russia seems to involve handing over Ukraine, and abandoning the Baltics, Poland and the Balcans to their fate.

And then there is still no guarantee of cheap reliable gas supplies.

How many times do have to carryy on interfering in the business of other nations. If the west would stop trying to muscle in on Russia's sphere of influence none of this would be happening. The EU engineered the overthrow of the legitmate Ukraine government to install the current regime. Why should we put our neck on the line for the baltic states, what have they ever done for us?

Another bit of homework for you.

Look up "quarrel in a far away country, between people of whom we know nothing".

You'll find it educational.

Yes i know all about it thanks. Two world wars neither of which we needed to involved with. It's funny how they only want to know us when the fighting kicks off. If they are that bothered about being in the EU let them sort it out, it's not our quarrel. Anyone who thinks any good can come from picking a fight with Russia is off their head. We've lost the lives of too many service people over the past few years for nothing, we don't want to lose any more. Let these countries stand up for themselves, we are not the world's police man.

[BVB]

Remind me not to call the fire brigade should “Little Englander Towers” in The Isle catch fire, as it’s none of my business and I shouldn’t get involved.

[Axholme Lion]

Remind me not to call the fire brigade should “Little Englander Towers” in The Isle catch fire, as it’s none of my business and I shouldn’t get involved.

What good can come from war mongering and interfering in the affairs of other nations?
Will we ever learn?
WW1
WW2
BOSNIA
IRAQ
AFGHANISTAN
How many more British dead?

[BVB]

You can go back a bit further in time than that if you want AL.
UK has a proud history of interfering in the affairs of other nations, generally to it’s own national benefit at the expense of those other nations.

And how many dead, never mind just British.

Though I am with you if you mean wars never solve anything: “jaw jaw is better than war-war”.

[SydneyRover]

As you are aware RD gas is a fossil fuel marginally or no better than coal, it will take a massive effort to persuade the irrationals to tackle the amount of change that will be required to solve this one.

Gas is actually much less productive of CO2 than coal for the same amount of energy produced.

Burning 1kg of anthracite releases about 3kg of CO2 and produces about 9kWh of heat.

Burning 1kg of methane releases about 2.75kg of CO2 and produces over 14kWh of heat.

There's a lot of fugitive emissions to take into consideration and the age and efficiency of the plant producing the power, bst.

Added

I guess the age of a coal plant make a difference too.

[River Don]

It's not just unseasonably warm here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/31/24c-in-spain-15c-in-the-alps-oddly-warm-end-to-2021-in-parts-of-europe

Heatwaves in parts of the US and wildfires in Colarado.

Christ knows what new extremes we're going to see this coming summer.

Happy New Year.