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The Beast

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #30 on May 10, 2021, 05:46:52 pm by The Beast »
He’s always worried me, even playing at centre half. Can’t believe a Championship club was interested in him tbh, although I know one was.

Hope is injury isn’t too bad and he finds another club !



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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #31 on May 10, 2021, 05:48:39 pm by Campsall rover »
Doesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right back
Agree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.

He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.
There are many with short memories. They were excellent both in the first 3rd of the season before Butler came into the side in Dec. Also very good last season as a pair. We were pretty frugal as a defence ever since Moore arrived.
We scored more goals under McCann but we conceded more with him as the manager.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #32 on May 10, 2021, 06:01:25 pm by scawsby steve »
Let him go. We need better.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #33 on May 10, 2021, 07:16:08 pm by NickDRFC »
Doesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right back
Agree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.

He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.
There are many with short memories. They were excellent both in the first 3rd of the season before Butler came into the side in Dec. Also very good last season as a pair. We were pretty frugal as a defence ever since Moore arrived.
We scored more goals under McCann but we conceded more with him as the manager.

I wouldn’t say excellent first third of the season. 16 goals conceded in the first 13 games before Butler came into the side which is ok but not excellent. With Butler partnering Anderson, we conceded 5 in 10 - that record is excellent - until Anderson got KOd at Fleetwood. Since then we’ve conceded 46 goals in 23 games, which is an unmitigated disaster.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #34 on May 10, 2021, 07:40:56 pm by Chris Black come back »
Doesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right back
Agree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.

He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.
There are many with short memories. They were excellent both in the first 3rd of the season before Butler came into the side in Dec. Also very good last season as a pair. We were pretty frugal as a defence ever since Moore arrived.
We scored more goals under McCann but we conceded more with him as the manager.

I wouldn’t say excellent first third of the season. 16 goals conceded in the first 13 games before Butler came into the side which is ok but not excellent. With Butler partnering Anderson, we conceded 5 in 10 - that record is excellent - until Anderson got KOd at Fleetwood. Since then we’ve conceded 46 goals in 23 games, which is an unmitigated disaster.

This is exactly on the money.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #35 on May 10, 2021, 07:46:40 pm by EasyforDennis »
Some posters are blinkered when it comes to their favourites.

ravenrover

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #36 on May 10, 2021, 07:55:28 pm by ravenrover »
And some are just blinkered

steve@dcfd

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #37 on May 10, 2021, 08:00:37 pm by steve@dcfd »
Let him go. We need better.
If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #38 on May 10, 2021, 08:04:01 pm by drfchound »
Let him go. We need better.
If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.





I suppose that if Wright thinks he is a Championship player and if he gets a move there he will significantly increase his wages.
The deal we offered would likely be a L1 sized deal so following that through, the deal we offered him would be ok for another L1 defender.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #39 on May 10, 2021, 08:10:43 pm by steve@dcfd »
Let him go. We need better.
If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.





I suppose that if Wright thinks he is a Championship player and if he gets a move there he will significantly increase his wages.
The deal we offered would likely be a L1 sized deal so following that through, the deal we offered him would be ok for another L1 defender.
If keep on following through then we could have another nine players to sign to make the CEO’s 22 players. So let’s hope that better League one players will agree to the deals we offer.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #40 on May 10, 2021, 08:15:39 pm by firestarter »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #41 on May 10, 2021, 08:20:00 pm by steve@dcfd »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

drfchound

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #42 on May 10, 2021, 08:48:59 pm by drfchound »
I agree there Steve.
I really dont want to end up with half a dozen on loan  kids in the team next season.
We will definitely need a few experienced players.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #43 on May 11, 2021, 08:40:17 am by ravenrover »
Let him go. We need better.
If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.





I suppose that if Wright thinks he is a Championship player and if he gets a move there he will significantly increase his wages.
The deal we offered would likely be a L1 sized deal so following that through, the deal we offered him would be ok for another L1 defender.
If keep on following through then we could have another nine players to sign to make the CEO’s 22 players. So let’s hope that better League one players will agree to the deals we offer.
Following through? I'd check your undies old lad

sha66y

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #44 on May 11, 2021, 10:35:48 am by sha66y »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

Whooooaaaaaaaa!!!
Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....
and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation !

Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....

Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #45 on May 11, 2021, 12:17:07 pm by steve@dcfd »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

Whooooaaaaaaaa!!!
Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....
and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation !

Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....

Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....
The CEO has said aiming for top six and I believe part of the new managers brief will be that aim.
We won’t hear from any other higher source as they don’t talk to the supporters

idler

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #46 on May 11, 2021, 12:57:27 pm by idler »
How many other clubs higher echelons regularly talk to their supporters?

steve@dcfd

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #47 on May 11, 2021, 02:48:53 pm by steve@dcfd »
How many other clubs higher echelons regularly talk to their supporters?
I appreciate that the point is Sha66y said no body at the top as mentioned aiming for top six but GB has and that’s as high as we hear from

scawsby steve

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #48 on May 11, 2021, 04:02:55 pm by scawsby steve »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

Whooooaaaaaaaa!!!
Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....
and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation !

Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....

Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....

You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.

I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #49 on May 11, 2021, 04:29:45 pm by EasyforDennis »
If we are not aiming for the top 6 then we will never achieve it!!!

BobG

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #50 on May 11, 2021, 04:31:30 pm by BobG »
I think the point is that whilst the ambition may still be top six, the position is not one where we can confidently expect it to happen. It might happen, but with a brand new squad, a brand new manager and a legacy of failure, it'll be a monster of an achievement if it does happen.

BobG

sha66y

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #51 on May 11, 2021, 06:46:17 pm by sha66y »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

Whooooaaaaaaaa!!!
Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....
and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation !

Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....

Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....

You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.

I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.

They could all don trilby’s and start singing it through megaphones..... the reality speaks for itself, we do not have the resources to not only get to the giddy heights but stay there...

We are going to either keep all these heartless soulless out of contract players or replace them.........and if the latter, that’s going to be a lot of upheaval.....

I predict a season of struggle and a flirt with the lower depths of league 1, and I won’t be on the clubs back if right....

Irrespective of what is said at the MTO ....take it with a pinch of salt,.... we have to rebuild and bed in a squad that we haven’t assembled yet...

Let’s just say, we hope to do better than we did this season.....

scawsby steve

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #52 on May 11, 2021, 06:54:35 pm by scawsby steve »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

Whooooaaaaaaaa!!!
Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....
and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation !

Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....

Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....

You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.

I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.

They could all don trilby’s and start singing it through megaphones..... the reality speaks for itself, we do not have the resources to not only get to the giddy heights but stay there...

We are going to either keep all these heartless soulless out of contract players or replace them.........and if the latter, that’s going to be a lot of upheaval.....

I predict a season of struggle and a flirt with the lower depths of league 1, and I won’t be on the clubs back if right....

Irrespective of what is said at the MTO ....take it with a pinch of salt,.... we have to rebuild and bed in a squad that we haven’t assembled yet...

Let’s just say, we hope to do better than we did this season.....

So we take what the board says with a pinch of salt, and listen to your suggestions instead?

OK.

sha66y

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #53 on May 11, 2021, 11:16:54 pm by sha66y »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

Whooooaaaaaaaa!!!
Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....
and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation !

Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....

Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....

You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.

I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.

They could all don trilby’s and start singing it through megaphones..... the reality speaks for itself, we do not have the resources to not only get to the giddy heights but stay there...

We are going to either keep all these heartless soulless out of contract players or replace them.........and if the latter, that’s going to be a lot of upheaval.....

I predict a season of struggle and a flirt with the lower depths of league 1, and I won’t be on the clubs back if right....

Irrespective of what is said at the MTO ....take it with a pinch of salt,.... we have to rebuild and bed in a squad that we haven’t assembled yet...

Let’s just say, we hope to do better than we did this season.....

So we take what the board says with a pinch of salt, and listen to your suggestions instead?

OK.

Got a sneaky feeling the board will be on my wave length, ...it’s the easiest way ahead, softly,softly ...easy as she goes.......and for the record, they aren’t my suggestions, if you take into consideration the following:

Covid affected revenue
Crap second half to season
Team to be dismantled
Contracts to be negotiated
New team to be assembled
New manager to pick team

This is a recipe for a slow start unless we get lucky....


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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #54 on May 12, 2021, 06:24:25 am by roversdude »
Any news on Wrights injury?

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #55 on May 12, 2021, 07:35:08 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
The time is right for Wright to move on.

He has never quite fulfilled his potential and has also been 'unlucky' with injuries.

Early on this season, he looked as though he may have shaken off his inconsistency but alas, his frailties returned.

He may believe in his own ability which is fair enough but there will be other good young centre halfs out there who might actually fulfill their potential. We might even see Cameron John really come of age. Ben Blythe could have that potential too.

There may also be more established players out there in the category of Anderson and Downing for example who could easily fill Wrights boots.

We should not be lamenting the loss of players who haven't commanded a starting position for long enough in the hope they may come good one day.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #56 on May 12, 2021, 08:00:00 am by Alan Southstand »
Aren’t you contradicting yourself a bit, there, DBR? Particularly your last sentence? Ben Blythe we havn’t really seen yet (although I’ve watched him in the u18’s) and CJ has been inconsistent, also.

I get your point about not lamenting the loss of Wright, but the squad, currently, is full of those kinds of players.

The Beast

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #57 on May 13, 2021, 10:21:27 am by The Beast »
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .

Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.

With the teams in League 1 next season, the squad we have and the budget we’re looking like we will have, top six looks like a pipe dream.
Not that I’ll lose too much sleep about Joe Wright leaving, clumsy player. John is a miles better prospect.

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Re: Joe Wright
« Reply #58 on May 13, 2021, 10:44:16 am by selby »
  I think Blackpool at this time last year were in a very similar position to what we find ourselves in now.
  They built a decent squad and finished in the top six, and with our weaknesses this season a top six finish for ourselves was not beyond the realms of possibility until late on.
  There is a core here that has been decent and could be built around, some of the players being discounted have for three years been on the fringe of the top six, Wright one of those, and if he does leave it is because another club wants him.
  If he does leave the best of luck to him, and will take some replacing, although Huddersfield have let a couple of decent experienced central and back four players go, and they will not be the only ones on the market on free's. 

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« Reply #59 on May 13, 2021, 10:45:42 am by GazLaz »
  I think Blackpool at this time last year were in a very similar position to what we find ourselves in now.
  They built a decent squad and finished in the top six, and with our weaknesses this season a top six finish for ourselves was not beyond the realms of possibility until late on.
  There is a core here that has been decent and could be built around, some of the players being discounted have for three years been on the fringe of the top six, Wright one of those, and if he does leave it is because another club wants him.
  If he does leave the best of luck to him, and will take some replacing, although Huddersfield have let a couple of decent experienced central and back four players go, and they will not be the only ones on the market on free's. 

Blackpool spent a lot of money on wages.

 

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