England/Euros Thread

[redwine]

Pace? Don't talk to me about pace.

Too defensive by half, but it's not really a surprise.

I was willing Scotland to nick it at the end.

[Filo]

Team selection nowhere near bold enough from Southgate, Sterling was shite and he takes Foden off

[Glyn_Wigley]

A draw against the Czechs would good for England.

[drfchound]

Pace? Don't talk to me about pace.

Too defensive by half, but it's not really a surprise.

I was willing Scotland to nick it at the end.

Why would you do that?

[sedwardsdrfc]

Said it a while ago our centre midfield is the problem we don’t have anyone to play forwards and be positive on the ball. Thought we’d get found out by a better side than Scotland though.

Southgates selections are so strange. All we needed to do was match up there formation and we’d come through with the players we have!

Not sure Kane is fit too every time I see him he’s so lethargic and doesn’t do the hold up job we expect. Look how Adam’s and Dykes receive the ball and bring others into play.

[phil o sophical]

Scotland get a draw in their cup final.

and they deserved it. They offered more of a threat on goal in the second half than we did. Can't understand how we can make two attacking subs and yet Sterling is still on the pitch at the end of the game. At this level his decision making is shocking

[sha66y]

Pace? Don't talk to me about pace.

Too defensive by half, but it's not really a surprise.

I was willing Scotland to nick it at the end.

Why would you do that?

It’s called pissed off punishment syndrome!
It’s when a persons whole belief system is re-orientated from plus to minus…..happens consistently throughout sports apparently….

[drfchound]

Pace? Don't talk to me about pace.

Too defensive by half, but it's not really a surprise.

I was willing Scotland to nick it at the end.

Why would you do that?

It’s called pissed off punishment syndrome!
It’s when a persons whole belief system is re-orientated from plus to minus…..happens consistently throughout sports apparently….

I was asking red wine actually so are you speaking for him or yourself.

Nevertheless, I don’t understand why you would want your own team to lose, whether it be England, Rovers or some Sunday team you may have once played for.

[selby]

  Harry Kane has his head full of transfers, I bet that is all he has talked about to Manchester United and City players, and he definitely should not have a mobile phone within a mile of him.
  Anyway the way he is playing must be costing Spurs millions.

[phil o sophical]

Kane might not be firing on all cylinders at the moment but the service to him was awful

[sha66y]

Pace? Don't talk to me about pace.

Too defensive by half, but it's not really a surprise.

I was willing Scotland to nick it at the end.

Why would you do that?

It’s called pissed off punishment syndrome!
It’s when a persons whole belief system is re-orientated from plus to minus…..happens consistently throughout sports apparently….

I was asking red wine actually so are you speaking for him or yourself.

Nevertheless, I don’t understand why you would want your own team to lose, whether it be England, Rovers or some Sunday team you may have once played for.

I never want Rovers to lose….ever, however I don’t feel represented by these pampered t**ts who wear an England shirt but don’t have belief….. I’m not alone apparently

[redwine]

Pace? Don't talk to me about pace.

Too defensive by half, but it's not really a surprise.

I was willing Scotland to nick it at the end.

Why would you do that?

Because they wanted it more.

Not to mention the fact that I'm not particularly nationalistic.

[drfchound]

Fair enough, I just wondered.

[albie]

I struggle to see Phillips and Rice as the answer in midfield....both look too pedestrian at this level for me.

Strikers were poor, and were out of the game for long periods, but if you get no service it is difficult to make a mark.

[Bentley Bullet]

England were shite, Scotland were brilliant.

England 0  Scotland 0

[DRCraig]

England so poor. No chance whatsoever of going all the way.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Next game Southgate has to change it up we’re through anyway. Try playing just one of Rice/Phillips and have Mount as a number 8 or try the back 3.

Certainly wouldn’t start Kane he’s so lethargic needs a rest play Calvert-Lewin imo

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Where is the midfielder getting on the ball and controlling play? Henderson gets a lot of stick but he'd have ran that midfield tonight.  Phillips done well for Leeds but he's not that international class that will win you a tournament. We maybe just don't hav that in midfield right now.

As for pace. Never going to get in behind Scotland tonight, they play too deep.  It was Scotland's tournament not ours, our big games are still to come, but we must improve.

There's a real case for dropping Kane and playing Calvert lewin for me too. I really like Kane but he's not on form.

[Barmby Rover]

I broke my rule and watched this game, poor, slow thinking and boring, the only entertainment was some of the banter with Ally McCoist. I will not be bothering again.

[Padge_DRFC]

Best Englishman on the pitch was Mctomminay tonight.

[TheFunk]

Just like watching Rovers under Darren Moore. So slow too many touches and zero movement. A team full of mildly talented players who at club level are surrounded by real talent who make them look better.

[scawsby steve]

For once I found myself agreeing with a Scot who was talking the team up. Souness took umbrage at some of the comments about Scotland's desire and energy being the main facets of their performance. He quite rightly pointed out that their passing and movement was better than England's, and I totally agree.

I also agree with Wrighty, who found Southgate's substitutions "embarrassing", especially the substitution of Foden, which was absolutely baffling.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Loads of experts and pundits were calling for Grealish yet he wasn't the solution to the problem.

The problem is blatantly obvious but yet Gareth can't see it. He relies on hope rather than purpose.

We are miles behind the top nations on all levels.

[PDX_Rover]

Lethargic, crab like, awful. Zero penetration or urgency. Massive improvement needed. Kane was abysmal.

[mushRTID]

Why the f**k do we need Philips and Rice vs Scotland

I’m stunned Phillips lasted 90 minutes, he was beyond rubbish

[Alan Southstand]

I thought we executed back foot football to a tee and it worked - I did sleep soundly last night.

New, much more progressive manager required. All that talent available to him and he comes up with that. And he can’t see when someone is just simply off their game. How did Sterling and Kane even get selected, for example, then the first one he brings off is Foden! Utterly clueless.

[Padge_DRFC]

Tony Pulis would probably be more ambitious and get more out of these guys.

This squad is just wasted on a manager like Southgate. Nice polite box ticker. Decent football manager nope. World's easiest run to a world cup semi hid all that. Played 2 good teams in it lost 3 (Belgium twice)

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Least we can moan about the football again. I've missed having the chance to do it in the last few weeks.

[Jonathan]

It wasn’t great.

In the context of England vs Scotland, a draw is certainly a better result for Scotland than it is England.

In the context of the tournament a draw is a better result for England than it is Scotland.

As a game it will please two groups of people - Scotland fans, and the not insignificant number of England fans that like nothing more than doing their own team down.

The rest of us can hopefully move on.

[dickos1]

It wasn’t great but we’ve never played well against Scotland, I think the last time we played them we needed a last min goal to equalise.
It’s a bit like an average championship side playing an average premier league side in a cup tie.
Lots of examples of the better team being beaten in these type of games.
Move on to Tuesday, and then a big game the week after