NHS

[BillyStubbsTears]

Fascinating how it's only the far right moaners in here who have ever had trouble with the NHS. I and my family have used hospital services dozens of times, from kids getting cuts stitched up, to relatives having cancer treatment, to my Dad being rushed in after the heart attack that killed him on the way.

I don't have a single example of where the treatment or the human approach was anything less than A1.

Maybe they save the bad service for whiners.

[Bentley Bullet]

Forgive me, forgive me...oh blast...here goes...

I agree with BST. The service my family and friends have received from the NHS has been exemplary. I certainly can never thank them enough for keeping my wife alive, especially.

[Axholme Lion]

Fascinating how it's only the far right moaners in here who have ever had trouble with the NHS. I and my family have used hospital services dozens of times, from kids getting cuts stitched up, to relatives having cancer treatment, to my Dad being rushed in after the heart attack that killed him on the way.

I don't have a single example of where the treatment or the human approach was anything less than A1.

Maybe they save the bad service for whiners.

Nothing to do with being a far right moaner Billy, everything i said is fact and happened. I didn't pursue the matters any further because i didn't want any problems for my relative when i wasn't there. I did also point out the excellent care given by the asian nurses. My point is the NHS is not and should not be seen as an infallible icon. It's the same as any other business or service with both good and not so good employees. I just don't agree with them being put on this pedestal of sainthood. What happened to 'We're all in this together'?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Fascinating how it's only the far right moaners in here who have ever had trouble with the NHS. I and my family have used hospital services dozens of times, from kids getting cuts stitched up, to relatives having cancer treatment, to my Dad being rushed in after the heart attack that killed him on the way.

I don't have a single example of where the treatment or the human approach was anything less than A1.

Maybe they save the bad service for whiners.

Nothing to do with being a far right moaner Billy, everything i said is fact and happened. I didn't pursue the matters any further because i didn't want any problems for my relative when i wasn't there. I did also point out the excellent care given by the asian nurses. My point is the NHS is not and should not be seen as an infallible icon. It's the same as any other business or service with both good and not so good employees. I just don't agree with them being put on this pedestal of sainthood. What happened to 'We're all in this together'?

Remind me, who said that first?

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

Vitality for me Glyn. I waited over 3 months for a physio on the NHS in the past. Now with my private care I waited 6 days for treatment for something similar.  There's no doubt private cover is infinitely better.  Is it the case that actually that's the answer or do we improve the NHS or both?

The NHS isn't brilliant but it's pretty good. I've had numerous mixed experiences as some have said but it's a fact that free healthcare is vital and compare it to other countries. We are very very lucky.

Should we have more private cover pursued? Perhaps we should it's complicated.  But the fact still remains everyone should get healthcare without cost regardless.

[SydneyRover]

Medicare in Oz has been around for 40+ years, each person gets a card that entitles them to either free or subsidised care depending on who they go to for care and what type.

Private medical companies have vied for a piece of the action as it's quite lucrative and the right wing wing governments have sought to help them gain a foothold. They introduced a tax penalty for those working and without private insurance which lead to thousands taking out junk insurance to avoid the tax. They also started to subsidise the private sector to stop prices rising. Now the private sector has a strong foothold in the universal healthcare system.

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

I thought I'd give this a lift to the top.

[drfchound]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

[drfchound]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

[Glyn_Wigley]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/07/boris-johnson-defends-1-rise-for-nhs-workers

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

[drfchound]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

You ask many questions but very rarely answer any that are asked if you.
Which is one of the reasons I don’t respond to some of your ramblings.
Would my answering you about a pay rise for NHS workers have made a difference to what they got?

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

You ask many questions but very rarely answer any that are asked if you.
Which is one of the reasons I don’t respond to some of your ramblings.
Would my answering you about a pay rise for NHS workers have made a difference to what they got?

Because I actually do care about the majority and I guess that I can expose you as a fraud hound.

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

You ask many questions but very rarely answer any that are asked if you.
Which is one of the reasons I don’t respond to some of your ramblings.
Would my answering you about a pay rise for NHS workers have made a difference to what they got?

Because I actually do care about the majority and I guess that I can expose you as a fraud hound.

I will modify this as I want to make it clear I don't think of you as a total fraud hound (glasnost comrade)

Your non-answer goes into the melting pot of where you stand and what others myself included of course, of what picture is built up in the mind about what kind pf person you are having a conversation with. As you are reasonably forthright with your views but evasive when asked about the reasons for them it gives me the impression that you change your views to meet the current situation and you will agree with anyone that opposes my views and certain others.

So getting back to the questions:

You make a bold, somewhat confrontational statement about my comment, which was not directed at you nor your party.

You fail to explain why you said it and are evasive.

I reply with information that puts your reply of ''support'' in question and about my reasoning for my statement and a further question pertinent to the conversation.

At which point, still being evasive you now bring a further comment in an attempt to cause offence and start an argument.

To sum it up, you're not a total fraud but very much a WUM, congrats hound.

[Axholme Lion]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

A: I can't afford private health care.

B: I'm already paying for the NHS.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

A: I can't afford private health care.

B: I'm already paying for the NHS.

Plus, the attitude of Glyn Wigley serves to only accept NHS failings without putting up a fight to get what we are entitled to in the first place.

It's like him saying, 'so what if the NHS is shit, you can go private if you aren't happy about it'.

Like we should forgive NHS staff for not doing their jobs properly rather than call it out and get improvements. Bizarre.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

A: I can't afford private health care.

B: I'm already paying for the NHS.

Sell your precious car if you're that bothered.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

A: I can't afford private health care.

B: I'm already paying for the NHS.

Plus, the attitude of Glyn Wigley serves to only accept NHS failings without putting up a fight to get what we are entitled to in the first place.

It's like him saying, 'so what if the NHS is shit, you can go private if you aren't happy about it'.

Like we should forgive NHS staff for not doing their jobs properly rather than call it out and get improvements. Bizarre.

If you're going to presume to tell everybody what you think I think, I suggest you don't have your head in such as dark place that you can only do this by guessing. And badly at that.

[Axholme Lion]

Anybody can go and join BUPA if they're not happy with the NHS. That choice is what capitalism is all about.

A: I can't afford private health care.

B: I'm already paying for the NHS.

Sell your precious car if you're that bothered.

Why should i when i'm already paying for a health service.
Anyhow who said i'm a capitalist?

[Sprotyrover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

You ask many questions but very rarely answer any that are asked if you.
Which is one of the reasons I don’t respond to some of your ramblings.
Would my answering you about a pay rise for NHS workers have made a difference to what they got?

Because I actually do care about the majority and I guess that I can expose you as a fraud hound.

I will modify this as I want to make it clear I don't think of you as a total fraud hound (glasnost comrade)

Your non-answer goes into the melting pot of where you stand and what others myself included of course, of what picture is built up in the mind about what kind pf person you are having a conversation with. As you are reasonably forthright with your views but evasive when asked about the reasons for them it gives me the impression that you change your views to meet the current situation and you will agree with anyone that opposes my views and certain others.

So getting back to the questions:

You make a bold, somewhat confrontational statement about my comment, which was not directed at you nor your party.

You fail to explain why you said it and are evasive.

I reply with information that puts your reply of ''support'' in question and about my reasoning for my statement and a further question pertinent to the conversation.

At which point, still being evasive you now bring a further comment in an attempt to cause offence and start an argument.

To sum it up, you're not a total fraud but very much a WUM, congrats hound.




Love it! Sydders having a go at somebody for all of the character traits he himself displays on this forum

[drfchound]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

You ask many questions but very rarely answer any that are asked if you.
Which is one of the reasons I don’t respond to some of your ramblings.
Would my answering you about a pay rise for NHS workers have made a difference to what they got?

Because I actually do care about the majority and I guess that I can expose you as a fraud hound.

I will modify this as I want to make it clear I don't think of you as a total fraud hound (glasnost comrade)

Your non-answer goes into the melting pot of where you stand and what others myself included of course, of what picture is built up in the mind about what kind pf person you are having a conversation with. As you are reasonably forthright with your views but evasive when asked about the reasons for them it gives me the impression that you change your views to meet the current situation and you will agree with anyone that opposes my views and certain others.

So getting back to the questions:

You make a bold, somewhat confrontational statement about my comment, which was not directed at you nor your party.

You fail to explain why you said it and are evasive.

I reply with information that puts your reply of ''support'' in question and about my reasoning for my statement and a further question pertinent to the conversation.

At which point, still being evasive you now bring a further comment in an attempt to cause offence and start an argument.

To sum it up, you're not a total fraud but very much a WUM, congrats hound.

f**k me SR.
That post has surpassed most of the usual crap that you post on here.
And for what it is worth, I don’t need to imagine what sort of person you are.
It has all been explained very clearly to me by a couple of posters who knew you back in the days when you were in the South Stand mouthing off about how shit the uk is and that you were off to a better life in Australia.
“A horrible man” are the words they used to describe you.

[SydneyRover]

I wouldn't f**k you ever hound, let's get that straight, you're a no nothing evasive shit stirrer.

with zero principles.

[drfchound]

Kinnel. Pot. Kettle. Black.

[SydneyRover]

Kinnel. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Is this that game you always play where if youhave the last comment you think you are right or something?

[bpoolrover]

Kinnel. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Is this that game you always play where if youhave the last comment you think you are right or something?

syd you don't have to agree with people but every single thread your arguing with people can you not give it a rest, let people have a different opinion without trying force yours on them

[SydneyRover]

Kinnel. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Is this that game you always play where if youhave the last comment you think you are right or something?

syd you don't have to agree with people but every single thread your arguing with people can you not give it a rest, let people have a different opinion without trying force yours on them

Not short of a word yourself bp aye?

Tell me, are any of my points I made to hound incorrect? try not to boris haha

Go back to comment 54.

''SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.''

All I asked was for hound to say what he meant and then the toys went out of the pram and it was a full on forum tanty, is this what you support bp, children that can't stop whining while adults try to discuss real things?

[SydneyRover]

bp, if you or anyone wants to shut me up, all you have to do is present the evidence that your way serves the country better and creates a better society. In your own time.


We look after ourselves and you pay for it.

Vote tory