NHS

[drfchound]

Kinnel. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Is this that game you always play where if youhave the last comment you think you are right or something?

syd you don't have to agree with people but every single thread your arguing with people can you not give it a rest, let people have a different opinion without trying force yours on them

Not short of a word yourself bp aye?

Tell me, are any of my points I made to hound incorrect? try not to boris haha

Go back to comment 54.

''SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.''

All I asked was for hound to say what he meant and then the toys went out of the pram and it was a full on forum tanty, is this what you support bp, children that can't stop whining while adults try to discuss real things?

That post is about the equivalent of saying “it wasn’t me sir, it was him over there”.
Deary me.
Let’s have a look at this properly.
Comment 54. I commented on your post about the government regarding the NHS as plebs and asked you to provide evidence that they had said that.
I’m still waiting for you to do that.
So, I did explain to you why I made my statement about your bottom of the barrel comment.
You then said I don’t care about the NHS staff because I didn’t respond to a question you asked me about the proposed government pay rise to the NHS.
I asked you if my answering that question would have made a difference to what they got, but you didn’t answer that question of mine.
So, to sum up, I wasn’t evasive at all, I responded properly and even asked you something but true to form, you ducked that.
Your real issue is that I mentioned that I know who you are and that some people had said you are a horrible man.
That is when you got really fired up and began to accuse of having a forum meltdown when the truth is that you are the one who is falling off the edge.

[SydneyRover]

As I said hound I made a comment not to you nor directed at you, absolutely nothing to do with you and you questioned it, as is your right on a forum, all I asked you is why, as is my right, and you're still crying like a baby instead of answering, simple.

[drfchound]

It isn’t me who is crying here SR.
And as I have pointed out,  I answered your question.

[SydneyRover]

It isn’t me who is crying here SR.
And as I have pointed out,  I answered your question.

maybe bst is right, it's hardly worth the bother

[drfchound]

But who could you argue with?
Oh yes, plenty of people.

[SydneyRover]

last word hound?

[normal rules]

The next big challenge facing the nhs is staff retention. It’s already an issue. My niece works in the biggest hospital in Birmingham. The staff are eaving in droves. She is already applying for other jobs. She reports that staff are just burnt out. She joined the nhs to help people. At its height she was zipping up dozens of body bags every day. She has had enough. And she knows plenty of young nurses who feel the same .

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

The next big challenge facing the nhs is staff retention. It’s already an issue. My niece works in the biggest hospital in Birmingham. The staff are eaving in droves. She is already applying for other jobs. She reports that staff are just burnt out. She joined the nhs to help people. At its height she was zipping up dozens of body bags every day. She has had enough. And she knows plenty of young nurses who feel the same .

I bet her managers aren't burnt out. Probably still working from home on about 150k a year. Massive credit to your niece. They are the people the NHS needs in order to function but who are sadly becoming disillusioned.

[belton rover]

I wonder if the NHS will be introducing a priority queue jumping system, so their own staff get treatment first before all the plebs who are paying their wages?

I think the government has already shown it's hand on that one, healthcare workers are regarded as plebs.

SR, that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel.

Why do you say that hound? do you yourself support medical staff?

What has that got to do with your ridiculous statement.

That's better hound, I thought you were ignoring me, please explain A/ why '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''

and B/ where you stand in support of medical staff, the answer being pertinent because if you don't support them yourself why is my post '' that post is really dredging the bottom of the barrel''?

I often do ignore you because you are a WUM.
However I will reply this time against my better judgement.
A. Your comment about plebs is just your assumption.
Can you show any evidence of the government calling the NHS Plebs.
B. Yes, I do support them.

Why would you allow someone you cared about to work in a dangerous situation, well over 800 healthcare workers died.

Why did the government offer healthcare workers a derisory 1% then upped it to 3% when they have worked to save the people of Britain. At 3% this would still have them behind as far as inflation is concerned, is this something you would offer to someone you cared about.

You say you care about them hound, when we discussed a pay rise for nurses a little while ago and I asked you a direct question whether you support a fair pay rise for nurses you refused to answer. Is this the way to thank them and show how much you care hound?

You ask many questions but very rarely answer any that are asked if you.
Which is one of the reasons I don’t respond to some of your ramblings.
Would my answering you about a pay rise for NHS workers have made a difference to what they got?

Because I actually do care about the majority and I guess that I can expose you as a fraud hound.

I will modify this as I want to make it clear I don't think of you as a total fraud hound (glasnost comrade)

Your non-answer goes into the melting pot of where you stand and what others myself included of course, of what picture is built up in the mind about what kind pf person you are having a conversation with. As you are reasonably forthright with your views but evasive when asked about the reasons for them it gives me the impression that you change your views to meet the current situation and you will agree with anyone that opposes my views and certain others.

So getting back to the questions:

You make a bold, somewhat confrontational statement about my comment, which was not directed at you nor your party.

You fail to explain why you said it and are evasive.

I reply with information that puts your reply of ''support'' in question and about my reasoning for my statement and a further question pertinent to the conversation.

At which point, still being evasive you now bring a further comment in an attempt to cause offence and start an argument.

To sum it up, you're not a total fraud but very much a WUM, congrats hound.

f**k me SR.
That post has surpassed most of the usual crap that you post on here.
And for what it is worth, I don’t need to imagine what sort of person you are.
It has all been explained very clearly to me by a couple of posters who knew you back in the days when you were in the South Stand mouthing off about how shit the uk is and that you were off to a better life in Australia.
“A horrible man” are the words they used to describe you.

I’m glad I saw this, Hound.
A few years ago, I met a nice chap, someone from the school run. He was a lovely bloke, a fellow Rovers fan who emigrated to Australia a couple of years after We moved to the Keepmoat. When Sydney started spitting out his nastiness on here, I had an awful thought that it could be my friends alter-ego. It horrified me to think that someone so pleasant could become so horrible behind a keyboard and a continent or two.

Thankfully, he was a season ticket holder in the East stand. It’s not him!

Phew!

[SydneyRover]

You should do a reading and comprehension course belton while some of your faculties are there, try and get you sight back in the other eye while your at it 

[belton rover]

You should do a reading and comprehension course belton while some of your faculties are there, try and get you sight back in the other eye while your at it 

Oh, the unintentional irony!

YOU give ME advice on improving reading and comprehension with this embarrassment of a ‘sentence’.

[SydneyRover]

a bit of a peddant too

[BillyStubbsTears]

You know those folk who say the last Labour Govt were no different to the Tories?

It those folk who complain about how bad the NHS is now?

I wonder what they make of this?

[SydneyRover]

Hey billy, when you 'lift' your graphs they often are too big for the page as above.

[albie]

Report in The Lancet showing the impact of NHS privatisation on mortality rates.
Here is the summary in the Mirror;
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/treatable-deaths-rise-under-privatised-27360743

Shocking outcome.
Let's hope the Tories have a good explanation!

Pet Shop Boy Wes might also need to reconsider his support for more private sector involvement in the NHS.

[mugnapper]

a bit of a peddant too

I don't want to be a pedant but........

[SydneyRover]

well spoted

[bpoolrover]

it's a hard one on nhs pay, there one of the few jobs to still get double pay on a monday and i think it's time and a half on a sat, at our local trust  they have being paying between 50 pound and 70 if you did a extra shift

[SydneyRover]

and umpteen new hospitals being made from wine boxes