It’s going to take some comeback

[The Beast]

I think, and many others probably will, we need the signings to start coming in quickly this week. We can't hope to go on the required winning run whilst looking as toothless as we do. I genuinely thought todays line up looked a lot stronger than in previous weeks but the result and performance really highlights how f**ked up against it we are.

Me too, was quite optimistic when I saw the side. Felt more depressed after today than anytime after a football match I can remember, we were just absolutely hopeless. Sounds negative but just plan for next season now, this one has gone. I’m absolutely dreading the next 8 matches.

[DonnyOsmond]

We have an option on Bostock to extend for a year. Him and Close with a DM behind them would be the best midfield in League Two. Add a couple decent wingers too.

[Sammy Chung was King]

We shouldn’t even be thinking of league two when we have a chance to stay up. That would be a cheap doing saying let’s plan for next season. We are in the 2020-21 season we are in a bad position but it isn’t insurmountable.

You will know if the board want to stay up by the actions they take, words mean nothing.
I would be very surprised if they just accept defeat and let us go down.
You have to sign players for now that if it does go wrong still fit in with the squad.

Short term quick fixes are not what we want. There has to be some reasoning behind signing every player. We need a goal scorer, someone to take control of midfield, a dominant centre half and a specialist left back. Also a couple of young players in on loan.

There is a whole month to sign players in January. No excuses if they don’t come in other than we have accepted our fate. We didn’t accept our fate in the championship and I would be surprised if we did this time.
If we haven’t got the money tell us, be honest.

[silent majority]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

[DonnyOsmond]

We should be realistic that the likely relegation is going to be very hard to recover from.  The losing mentality, inability to build a squad, we struggle to get players in, no positivity around the club and a rookie manager plus we won't have the spending power to outdo the other clubs. 

It's a huge job and coming back at the first time will be very very tough.

Will it though? Will it be hard? We'll be a major player in LG2, with a budget that makes us a standout contender. Tell me which clubs in LG2 can outspend us as the finances are totally different in that LG?

We don't know whether GMac can build a squad do we?

Don't forget we have contracted players that will still be with us, the likes of Taylor, Anderson, Bostock, Rowe, Olowu, John, Fejiri etc, and all will be more than capable of holding their own

Bostock, Okinbiri and John are all out of contract this summer arnt they ?

Get rid of the first 2.

Why?

[Chris Black come back]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

[DonnyOsmond]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

To be fair this year's underperformance doesn't give us much hope going forward that we won't underachieve again.

[Donnywolf]

I said 10% chance a couple of days ago.

It's a 1% chance now. Any semblance of fight or belief has gone.

We've just gone 135mins without a shot on target against two relegation sides.

Not that it makes the slightest difference but deep in added time Charlie Seaman thrashed a tremendous shot on target which was saved by that annoying time wasting t**t Cairns

Rest of post I agree with and we are imo d.o.w.n for sure

[The Beast]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

Who else is going to take him with his injury/fitness record of late?

[silent majority]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

To be fair this year's underperformance doesn't give us much hope going forward that we won't underachieve again.

Yes, but this years performance isn't a typical DRFC performance is it. No, its an exception to the norm, but it's certainly nothing like the norm at all.

[Donnybax]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

because this seasons “rebuild” has been so poor. Next seasons is going to be an even greater task and it’s just difficult to trust they’ll get it right

[RoversAlias]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

Aye well, we can't say how successful we'll be in future - or otherwise - but I imagine such comments are from fans feeling so pessimistic about the whole club now that they can't see a way forward from it. I don't blame them at this stage.

It's just a shame we're all even accepting League Two in week one of January on the forum tonight.

[River Don]

We shouldn’t even be thinking of league two when we have a chance to stay up. That would be a cheap doing saying let’s plan for next season. We are in the 2020-21 season we are in a bad position but it isn’t insurmountable.

You will know if the board want to stay up by the actions they take, words mean nothing.
I would be very surprised if they just accept defeat and let us go down.
You have to sign players for now that if it does go wrong still fit in with the squad.

Short term quick fixes are not what we want. There has to be some reasoning behind signing every player. We need a goal scorer, someone to take control of midfield, a dominant centre half and a specialist left back. Also a couple of young players in on loan.

There is a whole month to sign players in January. No excuses if they don’t come in other than we have accepted our fate. We didn’t accept our fate in the championship and I would be surprised if we did this time.
If we haven’t got the money tell us, be honest.

Realistically we needed summat from these last two fixtures. I think it's gone now, there's just too much of a gap to make up. In turn the position the club is in now will make the sort of recruitment we need to see to stay up very difficult.

Better to plan early for what looks inevitable now.

[silent majority]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

because this seasons “rebuild” has been so poor. Next seasons is going to be an even greater task and it’s just difficult to trust they’ll get it right

I'm going to end up repeating myself here but we have quite a number of decent players who are contracted to us beyond this season. It shouldn't be a total rebuild (If we get relegated that is)

[silent majority]

We shouldn’t even be thinking of league two when we have a chance to stay up. That would be a cheap doing saying let’s plan for next season. We are in the 2020-21 season we are in a bad position but it isn’t insurmountable.

You will know if the board want to stay up by the actions they take, words mean nothing.
I would be very surprised if they just accept defeat and let us go down.
You have to sign players for now that if it does go wrong still fit in with the squad.

Short term quick fixes are not what we want. There has to be some reasoning behind signing every player. We need a goal scorer, someone to take control of midfield, a dominant centre half and a specialist left back. Also a couple of young players in on loan.

There is a whole month to sign players in January. No excuses if they don’t come in other than we have accepted our fate. We didn’t accept our fate in the championship and I would be surprised if we did this time.
If we haven’t got the money tell us, be honest.

Realistically we needed summat from these last two fixtures. I think it's gone now, there's just too much of a gap to make up. In turn the position the club is in now will make the sort of recruitment we need to see to stay up very difficult.

Better to plan early for what looks inevitable now.

That would make recruiting in this window even harder if we were to suggest that we're planning for next season and we expect to be in LG2.

[TixTheBox]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

Because the clubs player recruitment is pathetic, for one.

[silent majority]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

Because the clubs player recruitment is pathetic, for one.

Oh right, my mistake, I'll just go back and correct all the posts I've made.

[River Don]

SM,

I don't think the club should make any such suggestions but nonetheless work on the assumption that they are building for a good campaign in league two.

[Copps is Magic]

Will the club factor League two into the current January transfers?

I would have thought some loan-to-permenant or even 6 month contracts would have been suitable in our situation but now that makes no sense. Start from a clean slate.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Any player looking to join us longer than the end of season will know they are going to be playing L2 football next year. They aren’t stupid look at us

Returning to earlier comments it’s completely reasonable to suggest we’ll be in L2 a while. Look at how bad we are and the level of rebuild of football staff on and off the pitch. This will take more than one summer. We’ll need to actually sign players who are decent to achieve anything and there’s nothing recently that’s suggested we will suddenly start that

[Donnybax]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

because this seasons “rebuild” has been so poor. Next seasons is going to be an even greater task and it’s just difficult to trust they’ll get it right

I'm going to end up repeating myself here but we have quite a number of decent players who are contracted to us beyond this season. It shouldn't be a total rebuild (If we get relegated that is)

then I suppose the issue is A) persuading them to stay
B) if they’ve hardly played this season how can we rely on them next season
C) even allowing for the few we do have contracted for next season it’s still going to need some serious recruitment

[silent majority]

Will the club factor League two into the current January transfers?

I would have thought some loan-to-permenant or even 6 month contracts would have been suitable in our situation but now that makes no sense. Start from a clean slate.

Its part of the discussion with respective new recruits. In our position how could it not be? But the major discussions are still about maintaining our LG1 status.

[normal rules]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

because this seasons “rebuild” has been so poor. Next seasons is going to be an even greater task and it’s just difficult to trust they’ll get it right

I'm going to end up repeating myself here but we have quite a number of decent players who are contracted to us beyond this season. It shouldn't be a total rebuild (If we get relegated that is)

My concern Martin is those contracted players have been part of a losing side now for some time, and some have been injured for large parts. This is not a good basis for a winning side next season. Rovers are missing some key players in key positions, and then they need to gel as a team. Something we have not seen this season, or the back end of last for that matter.

[Campsall rover]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

[Filo]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

Bostock got his injury making a blood and guts tackle

[TixTheBox]

Wrexham will certainly have a bigger budget than us in League Two if they go up. Surely Salford are chucking a good amount at it too. Some similar sized clubs may well go down with us too, such as Gillingham or Lincoln.

Yes, we'll be up there. But if the same people are in charge of spending the budget then I don't think my confidence will be high, sadly.

Will they though RA? No guarantees of course.

Granted I'll give you Salford, but we have an income stream that will give us that opportunity.

My point is somebody has said in this thread that he predicts that we'll be a mid-table LG2 side for some years yet nobody has yet explained why that would be.

I get the malaise around the current playing squad, but how we can throw that forward for several years is beyond my understanding.

Because the clubs player recruitment is pathetic, for one.

Oh right, my mistake, I'll just go back and correct all the posts I've made.

Do you think the clubs player recruitment isn’t pathetic, then?

[drfchound]

I am thinking that by mid March we will be mathematically relegated, possibly slightly sooner.

[Lesonthewest]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

Bostock got his injury making a blood and guts tackle

He did, & in his previous game his stats for breaking up play were the best. I want a blood & guts team aswell if we go down, I would also want a classy midfielder with better players in front if him.

[Campsall rover]

There is no way on this earth that Bostock is going to be playing in League Two.

I do not want to see anyone near a Rovers shirt next season that is not prepared to walk through a brick wall for the team.
Bostock does not give me the impression he would do that. I do not want to see nancy pansy footballers I want to see blood and guts.
A team spirit, a will to win, a never say die attitude. All the things we do not have this season.

Massive clear out in the summer. Most of this lot are a disgrace. 3 of them I do not know how they can possibly put professional footballer on their CV.  Nothing professional out there today. Total sham. A disgrace,
And total insult to the people who spend their hard earned money to go and watch them.

Never been so disheartened after a match as I have been today. We are now officially relegated as there is no way this bunch of players will get another 14 points this season let alone the 32/33 we probably will need.
In fact we could be almost as bad as 97/98 now there is a thought. Yes that bad.

Rant over from one very disillusioned Rovers supporter.

Bostock got his injury making a blood and guts tackle

He is a waste of space in a team fighting for its league status. Might be ok  with the right players around him as a luxury player in a winning team.
I would not want him in the trenches with me. Made about 3/4 tackles all season.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Every signing you make is a risk, you can give a contract out and a player that you thought would do it for you, starts coasting and not working hard.

Homework has to be done on character of the player, opinion’s sought on whether he will fit into your squad. More than anything we need hard work but we also need ability. January isn’t the best month to do business but our club is in this position.

 Without changes we are definitely going to go down. I have the feeling that the injury room right now is getting pressure put onto get fit players out of there.