Downing street party

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

''Money for their mates
The High Court has now ruled Michael Gove broke the law by giving a contract to a communications agency run by long time associates of him and Dominic Cummings.

The Court found that the decision to award the £560,000 contract to Public First was tainted by “apparent bias” and was unlawful''

https://goodlawproject.org/case/money-for-dominic-cummings-mates/

there a link to the ruling in there too

No, we should have asked the government to make sure all the paperwork tied up before getting the PPE clearly.  Covid is a valid reason to get around some rules in my view.  Look at the substance of the finding, it's not that it was awarded just that it was done quickly.  In short it means naff all difference.  There are times where you should bend rules and processes to get what you need and yes, some people may benefit and it may cost you more, but it can be the right thing to do.

I've seen it with a number of contracts I've worked on with government local government in the past and run by all political parties, it is often the right thing to do.


Oh and back to the party, the PM rightfully admits it was an error, for me it's too big an error to keep his job.

[Glyn_Wigley]

So Boris admits he was at the party for 25 minutes but insists he thought it was work related.

Surely the next question should be is: how much work did you see taking place in that 25 minutes and by whom?

[tommy toes]

The email inviting people clearly stated it was not work related, but a get together in the nice weather. BYO.
If Johnson thinks he can get away with expecting people to believe it anything else then he's really grasping at straws.

[DonnyOsmond]

''Money for their mates
The High Court has now ruled Michael Gove broke the law by giving a contract to a communications agency run by long time associates of him and Dominic Cummings.

The Court found that the decision to award the £560,000 contract to Public First was tainted by “apparent bias” and was unlawful''

https://goodlawproject.org/case/money-for-dominic-cummings-mates/

there a link to the ruling in there too

No, we should have asked the government to make sure all the paperwork tied up before getting the PPE clearly.  Covid is a valid reason to get around some rules in my view.  Look at the substance of the finding, it's not that it was awarded just that it was done quickly.  In short it means naff all difference.  There are times where you should bend rules and processes to get what you need and yes, some people may benefit and it may cost you more, but it can be the right thing to do.

I've seen it with a number of contracts I've worked on with government local government in the past and run by all political parties, it is often the right thing to do.


Oh and back to the party, the PM rightfully admits it was an error, for me it's too big an error to keep his job.

The thing is though if they were businesses which had a history in the field or a similar field then fair enough but some of these are day old companies set up by friends of MPs. We should be using people who know what they're on about, not just someone's mate.

[River Don]

It's just brazen, he's simply taking the piss.

And the Police, saying they can't investigate a party they were guarding. It's beyond belief.

[rtid88]

Its an utter disgrace, politics in this country for me is at its lowest ebb. I have no faith in anything, any of them say anymore.

This man is supposed to lead by example and at the time this party took place, personally I wasn't able to see my daughters, couldn't see my parents, couldn't see friends and family. My brother was admitted to hospital with COVID and we all thought the worst but thankfully recovered.

He has to resign and anyone else that was at that party should step away from politics for good as they are all a bloody disgrace!

[tommy toes]

To be fair, some of the 100 invited replied with comments such as WTF? and 'is this for real?'
But it still went ahead. I'd question the sanity of Reynolds and all those who attended.

[ravenrover]

2 things spring out
1 He couldn't have had e mail invite or he would have known it was a party, didn't want him there
2  Gatecrasher...... what a freeloader obviously didn't bring his own booze yet drank everyone elses
:-))

[River Don]

The head of the prime ministers office sends out an invitation to a party.

The invitation uses the word "we"

So, who is the invitation on behalf of?

[Axholme Lion]

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/03/donn-m28.html

Ancient history Millwall.
Have you met Ros Jones or had anything to do with her.?
Shes as honest and straightforward as the day is long.
This Donny council is doing its best under this Governments severe financial constraints.

Has her new Tesla with free charging arrived yet? I'm so glad i'm over the border and don't have to fund this lot.

Your a brave man/rich AL, especially following the recent case where Corbyn won damages for a socilal media comment

I'm asking a question to confirm a statement i was told, hence the question mark.

[DonnyOsmond]

What's wrong with someone owning a Tesla?

[belton rover]

Ask OMD.

[Ldr]

I personally can’t condemn boris for attending given the amount of lockdown rules I flaunted but blatantly lying is grounds to resign imho

[BillyStubbsTears]

He's a piece of work isn't he?

It's clear what he's doing. Setting up his Secretary to take the fall. He's going to push this line: "No-one told me there was a party. I didn't arrange it. When I saw 30 people supping in the garden I thought they were working. I'm disgusted that they were actually partying. The organiser will have to resign."

Here we go. This from the BBC.

The prime minister did not see or receive the email inviting staff to "socially distanced drinks" on 20 May 2020, his press secretary has told reporters - nor did he tell him to send it.

Setting up the Secretary for the fall. "Nowt to do with me guv".

Note the careful use of words.

"nor did he tell him to send it."

As several commentators have noted, it is beyond belief that his Private Secretary would invite 100 people to Johnson's house for a party without checking with Johnson first. So the question is not did Johnson tell him to organise the party. It is, why did t Johnson stop him?

[Ldr]

He's a piece of work isn't he?

It's clear what he's doing. Setting up his Secretary to take the fall. He's going to push this line: "No-one told me there was a party. I didn't arrange it. When I saw 30 people supping in the garden I thought they were working. I'm disgusted that they were actually partying. The organiser will have to resign."

Simply he has to go

[BillyStubbsTears]

I've just seen the PMQ footage for myself.

Meaningless words just dribble out of his mouth. He said he fully takes responsibility for the "mistakes" made.

OK. Let's take that at face value. It is clear that they broke the law. He says he's taking full responsibility for that. Why is he still in office then?

[foxbat]

"It would be understandable if people in Yorkshire and the surrounding regions do not trust a word this Prime Minister says - ever again."

Yorkshire Post
https://t.co/xn2rhvnUGC

[BillyStubbsTears]

TT, they may very well be great people beyond reproach but I dare say if they were followed all day, every day, and every word they uttered and action they followed was reported on by people seeking reasons to discredit them, the public would hear adverse stories.

Whereas if everyone was prepared to turn a blind eye to the most egregious lying and corruption we'd all be as happy as pigs in shite?

I dare say you would be if it suited your agenda, yes.

Now, instead of answering my post with another question, just for once actually address the validity of it.

That's precisely what I did. Please don't embarrass yourself by asking me to explain in words of one syllable.

[Bentley Bullet]

TT, they may very well be great people beyond reproach but I dare say if they were followed all day, every day, and every word they uttered and action they followed was reported on by people seeking reasons to discredit them, the public would hear adverse stories.

Whereas if everyone was prepared to turn a blind eye to the most egregious lying and corruption we'd all be as happy as pigs in shite?

I dare say you would be if it suited your agenda, yes.

Now, instead of answering my post with another question, just for once actually address the validity of it.

That's precisely what I did. Please don't embarrass yourself by asking me to explain in words of one syllable.

No you didn't! I want you to explain what is inaccurate about my post.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Who said there was anyt...actually, f**k it. Go down your own rabbit hole. I've got stuff to do.

[Bentley Bullet]

If there is nothing wrong with my post, why did you feel the need to respond negatively to it?

[tommy toes]

If there is nothing wrong with my post, why did you feel the need to respond negatively to it?

Seeing it was asked of me in initially, then I'll respond BB.
As I said these are honest, decent people, so I'd expect the press would soon lose interest. Nothing to see here.
Whereas your beloved Boris, well he's the gift that keeps on giving.

[Bentley Bullet]

Then I suggest you are naive, TT. The British press like to debase anyone they can in any walk of life, from politics to sport, the more honest and decent the person the better. If it sells their papers they will search and they will find someone to tell a story on them. The truth is secondary to the headline.

[idler]

The truth has been secondary to the headlines for quite a while now BB to be honest.

[wilts rover]

I mentioned recently on another thread that there are certain posters who will never critisie Johnson - but will attack and attempt to obfuscate with anyone who does. Always good to have that confirmed.

[wilts rover]

'We believed it was a work meeting'

[normal rules]

I’m quite confident bojo will step aside over this at a time that is convenient for him and his party.
Leadership contest to open up.
Priti patel
Liz Truss
Rishi Sunak all to feature strongly no doubt.

[Bentley Bullet]

I mentioned recently on another thread that there are certain posters who will never critisie Johnson - but will attack and attempt to obfuscate with anyone who does. Always good to have that confirmed.

Funny you should say that Wilts, because there are certain posters who will always criticise Johnson - but will attack and attempt to obfuscate with anyone who doesn't.

Always good to have that confirmed.

[tommy toes]

Then I suggest you are naive, TT. The British press like to debase anyone they can in any walk of life, from politics to sport, the more honest and decent the person the better. If it sells their papers they will search and they will find someone to tell a story on them. The truth is secondary to the headline.

If you think the truth is secondary to the headline where Johnson is concerned then you're even more deluded than I thought you were.

[Bentley Bullet]

TT. It's not only a case of whether a headline is true or not, it is a case of whether the reader wants to believe it is true or not.

In your case, I'd say anything negative said about Boris is true, and anything positive said about him is lies.