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normal rules

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #480 on February 10, 2022, 09:02:51 pm by normal rules »
I’m done with whole Bojo thing now.
He has made his bed. He has to lie on it.
I’m a conservative voter. And I wanted him gone.
I’ve emailed MP Matt Warman numerous times, and had replies from him tbf.
I can do no more.
He has a thick skin, and his Back Benchers have failed to grow a pair.
They will pay the price.
There is a failure in leadership across the board in the Tory party.



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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #481 on February 10, 2022, 09:34:58 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Not much different to the labour party in that respect. How many of them believe there is a failure in leadership across the board?

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #482 on February 10, 2022, 10:02:41 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Not much different to the labour party in that respect. How many of them believe there is a failure in leadership across the board?

Most of the ones who only joined in 2015 do. They are irrelevant.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #483 on February 11, 2022, 09:13:30 am by drfchound »
Not much different to the labour party in that respect. How many of them believe there is a failure in leadership across the board?

Most of the ones who only joined in 2015 do. They are irrelevant.

But they are members of the Labour Party, so not irrelevant at all.
They have a vote.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #484 on February 11, 2022, 10:33:41 am by BillyStubbsTears »
According to The Times today.

1) Johnson will appoint a solicitor to handle his reply if the Met send him a questionnaire.

2) A "senior ally" has said the Met needs to be "absolutely certain" before finding Johnson guilty and should use discretion because he is PM. That's there in black a white. A quote from a senior Johnson ally saying different rules apply to him.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #485 on February 11, 2022, 11:18:44 am by belton rover »
Not much different to the labour party in that respect. How many of them believe there is a failure in leadership across the board?

Most of the ones who only joined in 2015 do. They are irrelevant.

But they are members of the Labour Party, so not irrelevant at all.
They have a vote.

I think Billy means they don’t help his argument, so they are irrelevant.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #486 on February 11, 2022, 11:26:15 am by SydneyRover »
desperation ................

''Responding to reports that a senior ally of Boris Johnson has said the Met Police will need to be “very certain” that he has breached lockdown rules before issuing him with a fine, Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey said:

This veiled threat by Number 10 allies is amongst very heavy competition perhaps the darkest moment of this whole sorry saga.

It shows a fundamental belief in the heart of government that Boris Johnson should be above the law and that Number 10 will bring any institution into disrepute to save Johnson’s skin.

This is a sobering reminder of why we need a cast-iron guarantee that Boris Johnson and his team will have nothing to do with the appointment of Cressida Dick’s successor.

There was a time that the Conservatives called themselves the party of law and order; the public will laugh at that very idea for generations''

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #487 on February 11, 2022, 12:02:45 pm by Filo »
desperation ................

''Responding to reports that a senior ally of Boris Johnson has said the Met Police will need to be “very certain” that he has breached lockdown rules before issuing him with a fine, Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey said:

This veiled threat by Number 10 allies is amongst very heavy competition perhaps the darkest moment of this whole sorry saga.

It shows a fundamental belief in the heart of government that Boris Johnson should be above the law and that Number 10 will bring any institution into disrepute to save Johnson’s skin.

This is a sobering reminder of why we need a cast-iron guarantee that Boris Johnson and his team will have nothing to do with the appointment of Cressida Dick’s successor.

There was a time that the Conservatives called themselves the party of law and order; the public will laugh at that very idea for generations''

Banana Republic

Perverting the Course of Justice

The person making the threats should be arrested and charged
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normal rules

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #488 on February 11, 2022, 12:36:25 pm by normal rules »
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Bentley Bullet

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #489 on February 11, 2022, 01:33:20 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Welcome Mr Bonson, if it means keeping Steer Karma out.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #490 on February 11, 2022, 05:10:37 pm by tyke1962 »
Not much different to the labour party in that respect. How many of them believe there is a failure in leadership across the board?

Most of the ones who only joined in 2015 do. They are irrelevant.

But they are members of the Labour Party, so not irrelevant at all.
They have a vote.

Amazing how Billy tells you that if you don't vote Labour you are aiding the Tories but yet at the same time you are irrelevant .

It's remarkable when the Labour Party is a broad church and when it isn't .

Generally only during election campaigns or when a new centre Labour Party leader wants to win a leadership contest .


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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #491 on February 12, 2022, 01:58:20 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Not much different to the labour party in that respect. How many of them believe there is a failure in leadership across the board?

Most of the ones who only joined in 2015 do. They are irrelevant.

But they are members of the Labour Party, so not irrelevant at all.
They have a vote.

Amazing how Billy tells you that if you don't vote Labour you are aiding the Tories but yet at the same time you are irrelevant .

It's remarkable when the Labour Party is a broad church and when it isn't .

Generally only during election campaigns or when a new centre Labour Party leader wants to win a leadership contest .


What I mean Tyke, is that the opinions of 100,000 people are irrelevant compared to an electorate of 30 million.

Look at the counter example. Those 100,000 people deified Corbyn, while 80% of the electorate despised him.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #492 on February 12, 2022, 02:35:40 pm by ColinDouglasHandshake »
If i don't vote Labour (which i will not vote Labour) and the Tories stay in power as a result (which i don't want either) then as a voter this is not relevant to me. What is relevant to me is that i vote for the party who DESERVE my vote and support as i see fit. Regardless of the outcome or how unlikely that party is to get into power.

What we are left with if the Tories or Labour are in power is more of the same bullshit, therefore it doesn't matter to me which party of the 2 gets into power as most of the ordinary British public will be screwed anyway.






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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #493 on February 24, 2022, 12:32:32 am by SydneyRover »
jellyback wants to give ministers his version of reality and intends to set the record straight???

It can't be both.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #494 on February 24, 2022, 04:58:26 am by aidanstu »
According to The Times today.

1) Johnson will appoint a solicitor to handle his reply if the Met send him a questionnaire.

2) A "senior ally" has said the Met needs to be "absolutely certain" before finding Johnson guilty and should use discretion because he is PM. That's there in black a white. A quote from a senior Johnson ally saying different rules apply to him.

When did the met develop the ability to find anybody guilty? If he accepts a fine or a caution he has had accepted his guilt.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #495 on March 29, 2022, 11:49:18 am by ravenrover »
Time to resurrect this thread

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #496 on March 29, 2022, 08:11:06 pm by River Don »
It's a tricky one now.

I think he's probably guilty. He should be getting fined. He has lied.

I don't think the Tory party will push him out now.

I'm not sure I want them to either. Not with the situation in Ukraine, it's not the right time for a leadership election and to be honest there aren't any potential Tory candidates who look a better prospect.

Perhaps from an opposition perspective, it's better he's wounded by this, by the time the next election comes around. An election that will, I think, be exclusively about the dire state of the economicy.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #497 on March 29, 2022, 08:51:41 pm by SydneyRover »
Britain changed leaders and changed the whole government 8 months after declaring war on Germany.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #498 on March 29, 2022, 08:53:45 pm by drfchound »
A good move as it turned out.

River Don

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #499 on March 29, 2022, 08:54:19 pm by River Don »
Britain hasn't declared war on anyone yet.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #500 on March 29, 2022, 08:58:54 pm by SydneyRover »
Britain hasn't declared war on anyone yet.

Even more reason to get rid of johnson

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #501 on March 29, 2022, 09:04:59 pm by River Don »
Britain hasn't declared war on anyone yet.

Even more reason to get rid of johnson

Well, not officially at war.

And it's the decision of the Tories, I'd be surprised if they drop him now.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #502 on March 29, 2022, 09:09:00 pm by SydneyRover »
Britain hasn't declared war on anyone yet.

Even more reason to get rid of johnson

Well, not officially at war.

And it's the decision of the Tories, I'd be surprised if they drop him now.

I would be fairly surprised but it doesn't mean the dud should stay, would you really want him to be making any of the calls in this war even if asked?















River Don

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #503 on March 29, 2022, 09:15:35 pm by River Don »
That's a difficult question Syd.

Would you prefer Sunak or Truss or ?... I dunno who making the calls?

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #504 on March 30, 2022, 12:27:59 am by SydneyRover »
That's a difficult question Syd.

Would you prefer Sunak or Truss or ?... I dunno who making the calls?

It is, but as you say it's up to the tories, they had their chance to elect a better person but passed on that to elect an habitual liar and racist. It hasn't stopped those calling for Starmer to go as they have not nominated anyone as an alternative and yet he is not a liar a racist a philanderer, does not break international laws, is not a coward, does not consort with racists, nor regards the majority of british people as dupes.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #505 on March 30, 2022, 11:32:01 am by SydneyRover »
 .............. and the moon really is made of cheese

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #506 on March 30, 2022, 11:45:53 am by ravenrover »
And No10 still not admitting rules/laws were broken even when the Met say they were.
Raabid squirming when asked if he stll believed MPs who mislead Parliament should resign, saying Johnson told the truth to the best of his ability, just let that bit sink in! even though he was photo'd at parties but according tp Raabid the photos don't prove anything.
Call 999 and report another car crash
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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #507 on March 30, 2022, 11:54:48 am by SydneyRover »
does the truth mean so little to these people ................. I would have thought raab would have had enough the last time he made an utter abject fool of himself defending johnson

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #508 on March 31, 2022, 05:09:01 pm by Not Now Kato »
does the truth mean so little to these people ................. I would have thought raab would have had enough the last time he made an utter abject fool of himself defending johnson

Yes.  And it seems to mean so little to quite a number of posters on here too, sadly!

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #509 on March 31, 2022, 08:08:43 pm by scawsby steve »
does the truth mean so little to these people ................. I would have thought raab would have had enough the last time he made an utter abject fool of himself defending johnson

Yes.  And it seems to mean so little to quite a number of posters on here too, sadly!

Who are the posters on here who have defended Johnson and Partygate?

 

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