Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson

[River Don]

The line some tory MPs are taking is they can't sack the PM in the middle of the Ukraine war.

Well, we did change PM during WWII.

[mugnapper]

You just know that both Johnson and Sunak have got their teams working on 'how the hell do we talk our way out of this'?
And the longer it is before either makes a statement, the more ridiculous that statement will be.

[BobG]

My mum, in a care home,  did not see her daughter once in the final 18 months of my sisters' life. She did not see me for over a year.  My mum is 90 this year. Except for carers she was alone for over a year.

Don't you just love the Tory party....

BobG

[wilts rover]

The line some tory MPs are taking is they can't sack the PM in the middle of the Ukraine war.

Well, we did change PM during WWII.

Hungary has just had an election and the French are in the final two weeks of their presidential election - did they not get the memo?

[wilts rover]

May I begin by saying that I understand and share the anger up and down the country at seeing No. 10 staff seeming to make light of lockdown measures? I can understand how infuriating it must be to think that the people who have been setting the rules have not been following the rules, because I was also furious to see that clip. I apologise unreservedly for the offence that it has caused up and down the country, and I apologise for the impression that it gives.

I repeat that I have been repeatedly assured since these allegations emerged that there was no party and that no covid rules were broken. That is what I have been repeatedly assured. But I have asked the Cabinet Secretary to establish all the facts and to report back as soon as possible. It goes without saying that if those rules were broken, there will be disciplinary action for all those involved.

https://twitter.com/OliDugmore/status/1513864919996841993

[tommy toes]

He'll put on a hair shirt and walk barefoot to the Palace and beg the Queen for forgiveness a la Henry 1.

Ah... He wont need to. All the Tory MP's seem to have been briefed to say we can't possibly change PM during a war.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's another Tory MP sacrificing his dignity for Johnson. That other ridiculously coiffured blonde, Michael Fabricant.

"I don’t think that at any time [Johnson] thought that he was breaking the law. I think that at the time he thought, just like many teachers and nurses who after a very, very long shift would tend to go back to the staff room and have a quiet drink - which is more or less what he has done - but I don’t think he thought he was breaking the law."

You can see the concept. They've lied to the public for years and treated ordinary voters as if they are too thick to realise. And STILL 35% of voters say they support them. Why not go all-in?

[wilts rover]

The guidance and the rules were followed at all times

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1513863075211919364

[tommy toes]

Brilliant and concise piece by Ian Blackford on BBC news just now.
Sets out clearly what should happen and why.

[tommy toes]

If he doesn't go then come PMQ's the opposition should just sit there and refuse to engage with the lying b**tard.
How can anybody believe a word that comes out of his gob.
The f***ing lying sh*thouse

[BillyStubbsTears]

The line some tory MPs are taking is they can't sack the PM in the middle of the Ukraine war.

Well, we did change PM during WWII.

Previously, we have seen the resignation of sitting PMs during:

WWII
WWI
The Crimean War
The Napoleonic War (x4 plus another one assassinated)
The American War of Independence (x2 plus another one who died in office)

In addition, Churchill was voted out as PM while WWII was still ongoing.
Anthony Eden was effectively replaced during the Suez Crisis due to a nervous breakdown.

It is absolute horseshit to say Johnson cannot be removed because of Ukraine. Those saying it have one of two motives.


1) They are paid-up Johnson supporters.
2) They know that this year is going to be horrific for people's living standards, and they know that whoever is PM is going to take a massive popularity hit. Better to leave Johnson to take the flak, then replace him if/when conditions improve so that they have a shiny new PM for the next election.

I'd like to think there are enough Tory MPs with moral standards and a backbone to do the right thing. But I'm not convinced.

[BobG]

Who are we at war with please?

BobG

[mugnapper]

Who are we at war with please?

BobG

Channel 4 apparently

[BobG]

Aye. Another command and control exercise to favour these f**king Tory animals.

BobG

[BillyStubbsTears]

The line some tory MPs are taking is they can't sack the PM in the middle of the Ukraine war.

Well, we did change PM during WWII.

Previously, we have seen the resignation of sitting PMs during:

WWII
WWI
The Crimean War
The Napoleonic War (x4 plus another one assassinated)
The American War of Independence (x2 plus another one who died in office)

In addition, Churchill was voted out as PM while WWII was still ongoing.
Anthony Eden was effectively replaced during the Suez Crisis due to a nervous breakdown.

It is absolute horseshit to say Johnson cannot be removed because of Ukraine. Those saying it have one of two motives.


1) They are paid-up Johnson supporters.
2) They know that this year is going to be horrific for people's living standards, and they know that whoever is PM is going to take a massive popularity hit. Better to leave Johnson to take the flak, then replace him if/when conditions improve so that they have a shiny new PM for the next election.

I'd like to think there are enough Tory MPs with moral standards and a backbone to do the right thing. But I'm not convinced.

NB: I forgot. Clem Attlee was voted out of office during the Korean War.

[River Don]

The first communication from Johnson.

Highlighting that he's been talking to Zelensky and communicating with the American president.

No mention of partygate.

[BobG]

Standard tactic the world over for leaders in trouble.

BobG

[ravenrover]

And 1 supporter has come and said if The Clown goes Putin will be delighted......... really! The Clown is a Russian puppet can't wait till the videos from the bunga bunga banga banga parties start to circulate

[roversdude]

Weren’t the tories pushing for a recall to discuss Ukrainian events

[BobG]

Christ... There is absolutely no depth to which these horrible people will not sink is there?

BobG

PS Where has the Home Guard disappeared to?

[ravenrover]

There is no bar in Downing St a suitcase is the only way to get booze in
Who voted this idiot into Parliament

[normal rules]

Who organised these parties?
Because that’s a ten grand fine.

[River Don]

Who organised these parties?
Because that’s a ten grand fine.

Well, wasn't it his wife?

She has apparently been fined but I haven't seen a report of how much.

[roversdude]

The problem is ten grand means nothing to these idiots

[normal rules]

My prediction.for what it’s worth.
He will ride the political storm.
But no way will he be leading the tories into the next GE.
Step forward Ms Patel.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The problem is ten grand means nothing to these idiots

Aye. Johnson said that being paid £250k per year to write anti-EU and pro-Russia diatribes in The Telegraph was "chickenfeed". Although that didn't prevent him having to get someone else to pay for his missus's gold wallpaper in the Downing St flat (and then lie about it to his Standards Commissioner).

[BobG]

My prediction.for what it’s worth.
He will ride the political storm.
But no way will he be leading the tories into the next GE.
Step forward Ms Patel.

Agree NR. It's been plain for quite a while now that Fatso is the Tory Party's stalking horse. He'll move on roughly 12-18 months before the next election. Wonder what they'd do though if we are still 'at war' by then....

As for Patel, Christ. I'd have to shoot myself.

BobG

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is astonishing.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/04/12/c5ce0/3

After all this shit show, 45% of Tory voters are not prepared to say that Johnson lied about the parties.
37% of Leave voters similar.
39% of pensioners similar.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/04/12/c5ce0/1
Only 25% of Tory voters, 35% of Leave voters and 42% of pensioners think Johnson should resign.

What the hell would it take to break that spell?

[wilts rover]

The line some tory MPs are taking is they can't sack the PM in the middle of the Ukraine war.

Well, we did change PM during WWII.

Previously, we have seen the resignation of sitting PMs during:

WWII
WWI
The Crimean War
The Napoleonic War (x4 plus another one assassinated)
The American War of Independence (x2 plus another one who died in office)

In addition, Churchill was voted out as PM while WWII was still ongoing.
Anthony Eden was effectively replaced during the Suez Crisis due to a nervous breakdown.

It is absolute horseshit to say Johnson cannot be removed because of Ukraine. Those saying it have one of two motives.


1) They are paid-up Johnson supporters.
2) They know that this year is going to be horrific for people's living standards, and they know that whoever is PM is going to take a massive popularity hit. Better to leave Johnson to take the flak, then replace him if/when conditions improve so that they have a shiny new PM for the next election.

I'd like to think there are enough Tory MPs with moral standards and a backbone to do the right thing. But I'm not convinced.

Iraq - Saddam invaded Kuwait on 2nd August - Thatcher announced her resignation on 22nd November and Major took over on 28th November

[BillyStubbsTears]

Another Tory MP saying we should "move on" and forget all about having a criminal and a liar in No10.
https://twitter.com/JamesDuddridge/status/1513905700589690888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

And another
https://twitter.com/amandamilling/status/1513909644548259849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw