Maybe this will help restore faith and pride in the police.

[SydneyRover]

In a nutshell most who are commenting on this subject have not:

Read the report

Do not know why it was commissioned

Do not know who wrote it

Do not know to whom it is addressing

And of course what 55 of the 56 recommendations are.

Your uninformed views are as welcome as anyone's DD

What you may consider "uninformed views" i and others don't agree with you and while ever this country has a hole in its arse it would never give succor to agitating extremists like you. You must of got the  picture already when you decided to do one to the other side of the world and they, unfortunately have to put up with you and your undesired like.

Its individuals like you that take advantage of the west's liberal culture and try to force your extreme left wing ideals on the majority. I don't know if you have noticed but this country does not want your give away society and unfortunately has voted the most incompetent group of misfits and imbeciles ever just to keep your extreme, left wing dogma away from power.

What does that tell you and your ilk, it tells me your not wanted, not here, certainly not where you reside now and will probably cause our nation to vote in another period of trash like we have just had to endure just to see the back of you and yours.

In a nutshell, carry on bleating your agitation, this country allows you to do that, but it will never allow a government of like minded dreamers to ever have control and totally ruin this state.

Keep shouting from the back of the room fella, no ones listening or interested.

You lose I'm afraid DD, playing the man shows your insecurities and lack of knowledge on the subject, 35% of people think there is a problem by the governments own polling and everything I've discussed here is from a 2-3 study and final report by experts, when you have actually read the report you may find yourself with a voice worth listening to.

[danumdon]

In a nutshell most who are commenting on this subject have not:

Read the report

Do not know why it was commissioned

Do not know who wrote it

Do not know to whom it is addressing

And of course what 55 of the 56 recommendations are.

Your uninformed views are as welcome as anyone's DD

What you may consider "uninformed views" i and others don't agree with you and while ever this country has a hole in its arse it would never give succor to agitating extremists like you. You must of got the  picture already when you decided to do one to the other side of the world and they, unfortunately have to put up with you and your undesired like.

Its individuals like you that take advantage of the west's liberal culture and try to force your extreme left wing ideals on the majority. I don't know if you have noticed but this country does not want your give away society and unfortunately has voted the most incompetent group of misfits and imbeciles ever just to keep your extreme, left wing dogma away from power.

What does that tell you and your ilk, it tells me your not wanted, not here, certainly not where you reside now and will probably cause our nation to vote in another period of trash like we have just had to endure just to see the back of you and yours.

In a nutshell, carry on bleating your agitation, this country allows you to do that, but it will never allow a government of like minded dreamers to ever have control and totally ruin this state.

Keep shouting from the back of the room fella, no ones listening or interested.

You lose I'm afraid DD, playing the man shows your insecurities and lack of knowledge on the subject, 35% of people think there is a problem by the governments own polling and everything I've discussed here is from a 2-3 study and final report by experts, when you have actually read the report you may find yourself with a voice worth listening to.

I do believe what you have just stated would just as well fit your situation perfectly, You loose because no one in authority takes your bleating's seriously, you show insecurities by constantly agitating extreme left wing ideals that no majority in this country will tolerate, and your supposedly deep thought and understanding in the subject just leaves the majority cold and disinterested.

You voice is the voice of the extreme far left, whenever you have any say in what happens in this country come back and remind me, in the meantime you have "no voice worth listening to" but do continue as it probably stops you from really annoying anyone else who cares.

[SydneyRover]

So 35% of the public that agree with me are far left? you're still not making a lot of sense DD and commenting on  170 page document you haven't read.

[danumdon]

I'm calling you out as an extreme left wing nutjob, this nation would never have any truck with you or your ilk, your Demigod Corbyn demonstrated that at the last election, that this country had to vote in a bunch of extreme incompetents to stop you and your ilk. You state that 35% of the public agree with YOU? listen mate, that 35% wanted a representative government, they certainly would never want what you and the far left have in store for any country that would be foolish enough to go down that road.

Can we just imagine the situation now if you had got your wish, we would be like a poodle to the worlds despots, god only knows what crap you would of allowed Putin to get away with after you had defrocked us of all our strength and protections. No thanks, not today or any day.

[SydneyRover]

I'm calling you out as an extreme left wing nutjob, this nation would never have any truck with you or your ilk, your Demigod Corbyn demonstrated that at the last election, that this country had to vote in a bunch of extreme incompetents to stop you and your ilk. You state that 35% of the public agree with YOU? listen mate, that 35% wanted a representative government, they certainly would never want what you and the far left have in store for any country that would be foolish enough to go down that road.

Can we just imagine the situation now if you had got your wish, we would be like a poodle to the worlds despots, god only knows what crap you would of allowed Putin to get away with after you had defrocked us of all our strength and protections. No thanks, not today or any day.

Playing the man says more about you than me.

[drfchound]

In a nutshell most who are commenting on this subject have not:

Read the report

Do not know why it was commissioned

Do not know who wrote it

Do not know to whom it is addressing

And of course what 55 of the 56 recommendations are.

Your uninformed views are as welcome as anyone's DD

What you may consider "uninformed views" i and others don't agree with you and while ever this country has a hole in its arse it would never give succor to agitating extremists like you. You must of got the  picture already when you decided to do one to the other side of the world and they, unfortunately have to put up with you and your undesired like.

Its individuals like you that take advantage of the west's liberal culture and try to force your extreme left wing ideals on the majority. I don't know if you have noticed but this country does not want your give away society and unfortunately has voted the most incompetent group of misfits and imbeciles ever just to keep your extreme, left wing dogma away from power.

What does that tell you and your ilk, it tells me your not wanted, not here, certainly not where you reside now and will probably cause our nation to vote in another period of trash like we have just had to endure just to see the back of you and yours.

In a nutshell, carry on bleating your agitation, this country allows you to do that, but it will never allow a government of like minded dreamers to ever have control and totally ruin this state.

Keep shouting from the back of the room fella, no ones listening or interested.

You lose I'm afraid DD, playing the man shows your insecurities and lack of knowledge on the subject, 35% of people think there is a problem by the governments own polling and everything I've discussed here is from a 2-3 study and final report by experts, when you have actually read the report you may find yourself with a voice worth listening to.

What did the other 65% of people polled think.

[SydneyRover]

You need me to tell you what you think hound, what did you think of the report?

[drfchound]

You need me to tell you what you think hound, what did you think of the report?

I don’t often read links that you post Syd.
I was curious though about the other 65% of people that you didn’t mention.

[phil old leake]

Syd. The BBC are as bad as it gets for left wing wokeism.



They’re afraid of their own shadow.

That’s probably why the likes of A Marr has left ‘so he can have his own voice’

[phil old leake]

Syd you seem to be obsessed that no one else has had the time to read this report

Why don’t you break it down for us all point by point and explain in detail how every point goes to improve society and policing this great country of ours.  The country you care so much about you left it

[Sprotyrover]

AND He is a danger to himself and small Pets

[SydneyRover]

Syd you seem to be obsessed that no one else has had the time to read this report

Why don’t you break it down for us all point by point and explain in detail how every point goes to improve society and policing this great country of ours.  The country you care so much about you left it

I love to read all the comments opposed to a report that they haven't read and where they think it puts those that support change on the political spectrum. How many free breakfast will I get today, I have a years supply of kippers so far.

[phil old leake]

So you can’t dissect the report and tell us where we don’t understand
I thought as much. 

[SydneyRover]

So you can’t dissect the report and tell us where we don’t understand
I thought as much.

In short, you oppose a report you haven't read. contradict yourself on reasons why society is breaking down then blame the bbc. Now you want me to give you a rundown on what it says so you can continue in a journey to where you've already locked in the coordinates. Phil I've given you a very brief breakdown a couple of times which you have ignored.

[normal rules]

A lot of emphasis on this report.
I remember the Bichard report, post Soham.
What did we get?
A police National Database that isn’t fit for purpose.
Reports can be worthless.

[drfchound]

Not worthless to some posters NR.
The ones who get a kick out of continually baiting others with it.

[phil old leake]

So you can’t and once again you have just jumped on an anti society bandwagon so you can continue to knock government and the UK the country you have no say in as you no longer contribute towards it

It’s a shame you can’t find the same amount of time and put in as much effort reporting positive stories of police officers putting their lives on the line and saving people, or conducting acts of bravery which occur far more often than the negative rhetoric you seem to dig up on a very regular basis.
It’s all to easy to find fault.
Unless you can explain in detail all the facts you are saying will improve our society please don’t reply with your usual non answers

[SydneyRover]

A lot of emphasis on this report.
I remember the Bichard report, post Soham.
What did we get?
A police National Database that isn’t fit for purpose.
Reports can be worthless.

There is quire a bit in the report regarding technology and what needs to be done, it highlights the fact that the police national database used is 48 years old.

[SydneyRover]

I've tried to tell you phil, the report is a positive for the police, it's not anti-police ffs.

[normal rules]

Do not confuse PNC with PND SR. Two very, very different databases.

Pnc checks convictions and wanted markers etc. At the roadside you can check driving licence status and insurance etc. It does other things too.
It’s National.

PND, the police National database was designed so that police forces could share intelligence between each other. It was brought in post Soham.  It’s a much newer database.So that Soham never, ever happened again.
It should be updated very regularly so that Intel is up to date.
It isn’t. Shockingly so.
Why? Because there are simply not the staff to do it. Or enough hours in the day. Hmmm, heard this before?
So for those hanging their hat on this policing review report, crack on.
It’s a wish list. Nothing more than that. Recommendations.
Many of which will have lip service paid to, or simply ignored as not cost effective or operationally viable.
Heard it all before. Time and time again.

[SydneyRover]

Yep, I may have misnamed it but the report does say that that particular one will not be able to be supported and needs replacing like now. It goes on to name the areas where most crime is committed and that the technology and training for police needs a massive upgrade to tackle it.

[normal rules]

Just
Need
More
Cops

[drfchound]

Yep, I may have misnamed it but the report does say that that particular one will not be able to be supported and needs replacing like now. It goes on to name the areas where most crime is committed and that the technology and training for police needs a massive upgrade to tackle it.

A bit if back tracking in that post Syd.
You misnamed it because you didn’t understand it. What a cop out!!

[SydneyRover]

Just
Need
More
Cops

we
need
more
better
trained
better
equipped
more
diverse
more
community
based
police

[drfchound]

Just
Need
More
Cops

we
need
more
better
trained
better
equipped
more
diverse
more
community
based
police

When you say we, do you mean in Sydney or in the whole of Australia?

[phil old leake]

Hound don’t forget Syd is an expert in policing having no first hand knowledge of it and making all his assumptions on reports and articles he’s read

[SydneyRover]

In a nutshell most who are commenting on this subject have not:

Read the report

Do not know why it was commissioned

Do not know who wrote it

Do not know to whom it is addressing

And of course what 55 of the 56 recommendations are.

[SydneyRover]

I blame the bbc for everything that's wrong in the world 

[SydneyRover]

I blame the bbc for everything that's wrong in the world 

Yep, me too, the bbc world service has ruined russia, china and north korea

[Sammy Chung was King]

We need to go back to having police stationed in every village. The old ways are the best ways in this. The government needs to provide funding for a roll out of double the amount of officers we have now.
The criminals are having a field day at the expense of good honest working people.
Also the amount of PCSO’s need to increase to support the regular police.

Every street should have one person with a direct line,to the local police if there is anything going on of a criminal nature. You need a force of about four at each station with the support of the local town.
CCTV should be installed in places that are targeted such as local businesses that can’t afford to be robbed.

The police need to be better equipped. If that means arming them with guns and having to use lethal force to make someone stop, then so be it. Why should they have to go out with inferior weapons and risk their lives?.The world has become a dangerous place, they should be trained and armed.

Local police need to build a rapport with locals. Build trust with them. The judges need to do their part by putting people away for a long time when they go against the laws of the land.
Decent people have to live by them, so should they.

There should be a three strike rule, three offences no matter how minor and you go down for ten years. Murder etc obviously much more. A life taken should mean life, no parole.
Take all comforts away from prisoners. Meals, exercise and work and that’s it. Stop running them like youth clubs.