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donnievic

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #30 on April 09, 2022, 09:43:01 pm by donnievic »
Somewhere i must have missed something.
Our "best " were just average and some of the other players were dire.

Thank goodness Crewe were bloody aweful

I think some supporters are blinkered and cant see most passes are terrible.


and the players including Bostok, how many times did we also hear"SHOOT"?
Nice to see when they rarely did though.
Again many seemed to stop just before the penalty box.
I think they have a problem maybe going to far over the half way line they think they will get a nose bleed.

Ok a win is a win, too little too late?
think your being very harsh today as there wasn’t any bad players,yes we could shoot more at times but a lot of times when fans shout it players are either 40 yards out or they haven’t even got the ball under control or has men on him



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dickos1

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #31 on April 09, 2022, 10:16:36 pm by dickos1 »
I’d wager we’ve done better with him in the dude than without

Why is that dickos? Is that because we might be solid bottom without him? Tonight's entertainment has arrived ladies and gents. Dickos has entered the room

Just have a look at the games he’s started. Most of our better performances have been when he’s started.
And despite him Missing the majority of the season I’d imagine today was the 3rd/4th game we’ve won with him starting

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #32 on April 09, 2022, 10:24:29 pm by Chris Black come back »
We’ve won 9 league games this season and John Bostock has started 3 of these (all at home: MK Dons, Cheltenham and Crewe). Of these, he managed 90 minutes in 2 of them (Cheltenham and Crewe). He didn’t appear in any of the other 6 league wins.

dickos1

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #33 on April 09, 2022, 10:36:54 pm by dickos1 »
But how many games has he started altogether, I’d imagine he’s only started 9/10 games all season, and we’ve won 3 of them. 

5minstogo

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #34 on April 09, 2022, 10:50:59 pm by 5minstogo »
We’ve won 9 league games this season and John Bostock has started 3 of these (all at home: MK Dons, Cheltenham and Crewe). Of these, he managed 90 minutes in 2 of them (Cheltenham and Crewe). He didn’t appear in any of the other 6 league wins.

Staying fitnis the issue. He took a heavy tackle today, he'll be doubtful for Friday.

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #35 on April 09, 2022, 10:56:02 pm by Chris Black come back »
But how many games has he started altogether, I’d imagine he’s only started 9/10 games all season, and we’ve won 3 of them. 

This season Bostock has started 13 league games, with a further 4 league substitute appearances.

dickos1

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #36 on April 09, 2022, 11:23:56 pm by dickos1 »
But how many games has he started altogether, I’d imagine he’s only started 9/10 games all season, and we’ve won 3 of them. 

This season Bostock has started 13 league games, with a further 4 league substitute appearances.

Ok so we’ve won 3 games out of 13 with him starting, as opposed to winning 6 games out of 29 without him starting.
Not a big difference but better all the same, which was my original point to ditch

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #37 on April 10, 2022, 01:03:30 am by Sammy Chung was King »
Bostock makes a massive difference. His influence is understated. He consistently keeps the ball. He makes those around him better. He just finds it hard to play a full season. Very intelligent, if he had used himself to his potential he would be in the premier league.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #38 on April 10, 2022, 07:21:41 am by sedwardsdrfc »
He’s obviously very good but the number of wins is skewed by the Crewe game. Basically anyone involved was lucky enough to play the only team more abject than us.

Padge_DRFC

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #39 on April 10, 2022, 08:01:03 am by Padge_DRFC »
He’s obviously very good but the number of wins is skewed by the Crewe game. Basically anyone involved was lucky enough to play the only team more abject than us.

Barlow will be buzzing. Yet contributes zero.

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #40 on April 10, 2022, 08:06:46 am by Chris Black come back »
Yesterday was a tidy and deserved yet unspectacular win against a truly terrible side.

Maybe good for getting 90 minutes out of Clayton and Bostock, but there is little read across for the remaining games even if they are all dead rubbers for the opposing sides.

Another important datapoint is that we have not strung back to back league wins together since early March 2021 and certainly not at all this season.

Yesterday certainly wasn’t bad but given how poor the opposition were, you can’t see a huge amount to think we can definitely overturn that 13 month run on Friday.

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #41 on April 10, 2022, 10:17:40 am by DonnyOsmond »
We’ve won 9 league games this season and John Bostock has started 3 of these (all at home: MK Dons, Cheltenham and Crewe). Of these, he managed 90 minutes in 2 of them (Cheltenham and Crewe). He didn’t appear in any of the other 6 league wins.

Averages of where Bostock has played 60+mins -
xG for - 1.09
xG against - 1.66
Shots for - 11
Shots against - 12.69

Averages when Bostock doesn't play at all -
xG for - 0.89
xG against - 1.96
Shots for - 7.93
Shots against - 14.46


Obviously depends on quality of opposition.

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #42 on April 10, 2022, 10:24:59 am by Chris Black come back »
These are the league games where he has played 60+ minutes this season:

Away at Sheff Wed - lost
Away at Accrington - lost
Home to Portsmouth - drew
Away at Rotherham - lost
Home to MK Dons - won
Home to Wycombe - lost
Away at Gillingham - lost
Home to Cheltenham - won
Home to Cambridge - drew
Away at Charlton - lost
Away at Wycombe - lost
Home to Crewe - won

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #43 on April 10, 2022, 10:29:53 am by DonnyOsmond »
Good mixture there. Overall we're a better team offensively and defensively with him in the team, mainly just from keeping hold of possession more from his higher level of passing and quality positioning. He doesn't suddenly take us from the worst team in the league to the best team in the league, but no player would.

GazLaz

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« Reply #44 on April 10, 2022, 02:52:37 pm by GazLaz »
Bostock is our best player. It’s obvious.

May as well close this thread now mods!

drfchound

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #45 on April 10, 2022, 03:12:16 pm by drfchound »
Somewhere i must have missed something.
Our "best " were just average and some of the other players were dire.

Thank goodness Crewe were bloody aweful

I think some supporters are blinkered and cant see most passes are terrible.


and the players including Bostok, how many times did we also hear"SHOOT"?
Nice to see when they rarely did though.
Again many seemed to stop just before the penalty box.
I think they have a problem maybe going to far over the half way line they think they will get a nose bleed.

Ok a win is a win, too little too late?
19 shots in total - 9 on target is not too shabby in any game!!


many easily dealt with by blocking or their wounded (nosebleed) keeper

Shots that are blocked by defenders aren’t included in the shots on or off target stats.

LincolnDonny

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #46 on April 10, 2022, 08:16:35 pm by LincolnDonny »
Somewhere i must have missed something.
Our "best " were just average and some of the other players were dire.

Thank goodness Crewe were bloody aweful

I think some supporters are blinkered and cant see most passes are terrible.


and the players including Bostok, how many times did we also hear"SHOOT"?
Nice to see when they rarely did though.
Again many seemed to stop just before the penalty box.
I think they have a problem maybe going to far over the half way line they think they will get a nose bleed.

Ok a win is a win, too little too late?
19 shots in total - 9 on target is not too shabby in any game!!


many easily dealt with by blocking or their wounded (nosebleed) keeper

Shots that are blocked by defenders aren’t included in the shots on or off target stats.



Sack the Stats person ...lol

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #47 on April 10, 2022, 11:39:52 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Bostock is a quality player for us, but sadly far too good to be a future player for us.

He'll probably end up at Swillsborough or Rotterdam Utd.

rich1471

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #48 on April 11, 2022, 06:05:25 am by rich1471 »
He has missed alot of games through injury as well and has not scored a single goal ,someone with his talent should be scoring in this league

steve@dcfd

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #49 on April 11, 2022, 07:48:59 am by steve@dcfd »
What it does show is that we are very limited for good players if Bostock with his limited appearances through the season is our best player.

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« Reply #50 on April 11, 2022, 07:53:32 am by Chris Black come back »
That we have very largely been an incredibly poor side this season, and are rightly second bottom of League One?

Sammy Chung was King

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« Reply #51 on April 11, 2022, 08:04:46 am by Sammy Chung was King »
We have players that look good, but produce very little in goals and assists. We don’t have enough functional players.
Well done though on winning yesterday, hopefully brings confidence up. Bostock is one of those that should be producing goals and assists, quite regularly.

GazLaz

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« Reply #52 on April 11, 2022, 08:18:07 am by GazLaz »
We have players that look good, but produce very little in goals and assists. We don’t have enough functional players.
Well done though on winning yesterday, hopefully brings confidence up. Bostock is one of those that should be producing goals and assists, quite regularly.

Bostock averages 0.17 assist per game. That’s higher than anyone else. Josh Martin second with 0.15 and Ben Close third with 0.14.

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #53 on April 11, 2022, 08:22:28 am by Chris Black come back »
Wow. Forgot about Ben Close. Looking forward to seeing him back for the closing stages of our League Two play off push next season!

GazLaz

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« Reply #54 on April 11, 2022, 08:56:14 am by GazLaz »
Wow. Forgot about Ben Close. Looking forward to seeing him back for the closing stages of our League Two play off push next season!

Close will be a big player for us next season. He’s very good.

mpc123

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #55 on April 12, 2022, 08:30:06 am by mpc123 »
Head and shoulders above anyone out there again, him and Clayton are starting to show some quality together, far too late mind

He played well and showed his range of passing. He was given plenty of space though by a poor team, it is when he is closed down when he can't impact the game.

Hopefully he can overcome that and still make an impression on the games.

bigal

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #56 on April 12, 2022, 09:08:41 am by bigal »
Does not score goals,like the rest of midfield end of


Spud

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #57 on April 12, 2022, 09:54:21 am by Spud »
I didn't see what others did in Clayton tbh. Steady & unspectacular with the ball, looked like a card waiting to happen without it, no mobility whatsoever. The best thing I can credit him with is lasting 90 minutes.

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Re: Bostock
« Reply #58 on April 12, 2022, 10:16:01 am by idler »
He does have a bit of bite about him though. Something sadly lacking this season.

GazLaz

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« Reply #59 on April 12, 2022, 10:44:11 am by GazLaz »
I didn't see what others did in Clayton tbh. Steady & unspectacular with the ball, looked like a card waiting to happen without it, no mobility whatsoever. The best thing I can credit him with is lasting 90 minutes.

You say a card waiting to happen but he didn’t get booked and made a few very good tactical fouls. That’s a big part of the game in the middle of that midfield. He’s looked ok in the last couple of games. I was (and probably still am) as sceptical as anyone about signing him as well.

 

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