The Queen

[wilts rover]

Martin Turner was playing??? Since when has he been back in the band?! What happened to Bob Skeat???

BobG

It was the Martin Turner version, Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash. First time I have seen them and thought they were excellent.

Bob is still with Andy (as far as I know) and hoping to catch them again on their tour later this year.

[tyke1962]

Last night of the Proms cancelled.

Never did owt for me, but I can't think of a more apt way to celebrate the traditions that the Queen represented than by thousands of peoe dressed in Union Jacks singing songs about the glory of Britain's past.

Meanwhile, while songs and weather forecasts won't happen, the rail unions' response is that train journeys that weren't going to happen should now happen, cos they've called off their strike.

It does feel like everyone is falling over themselves to be seen to be doing something. For fear of being accused of not doing something.

M&S in Sheffield have closed off their escalators to show respect to the Queen.

We're a strange country.

The photo in the Mail has to be the pinnacle in my opinion .

Claiming a cloud was an image of the Queen .

Someone please put it on here as I'm not that tech savvy .

To be fair I roared with laughter which ain't no bad thing .

[scawsby steve]

Old sausage fingers is the end of the monarchy surely.

If the Monarchy ends, Copps, we'll lose billions in tourism.

Who the f*ck would want to come here to try and get a glimpse of Truss or Keith?

[tyke1962]

Old sausage fingers is the end of the monarchy surely.

If the Monarchy ends, Copps, we'll lose billions in tourism.

Who the f*ck would want to come here to try and get a glimpse of Truss or Keith?

To be fair Steve I've never seen the Queen outside the gates of Buck House posing for selfies with a group of wide eyed Japanese tourists .

Paris is the most visited city in Europe and the French got rid of their monarchy 300 years ago .

[Bentley Bullet]

Tyke, is Paris the most visited city in Europe BECAUSE the French got rid of their monarchy?

[IDM]

Odd how the Queen, a lady not known for taking a political view on things or be outspoken about things called people who wouldn't get the jab selfish and made a plea for people to 'do their duty' and get vaccinated.

One of the reasons why my respect for her is very limited indeed and hugely less that what it used to be. Such a shame she had to become embroiled in this nonsense in the first place.

Did she call them selfish.?

How many people died in this country from covid.?  How many lives have been saved by the vaccine.?  I caught covid a few weeks ago and was quite poorly for a few days like having the flu but I had had 3 jabs.  How ill might I have become without the vaccines.??

Of course it is a personal choice to take the vaccine or not, but if the queen had said f**k all about it there would be plenty of folks claiming she didn’t care.. her stance on this showed she cared for the population of her country.

What’s wrong with that.?

“nonsense” my arse.!!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Been a while since Julius Caesar was around but tourists still go to roam.

[Bentley Bullet]

Roaming is what tourists do.

[tyke1962]

Tyke, is Paris the most visited city in Europe BECAUSE the French got rid of their monarchy?

I pretty much doubt it but to say London is a tourist hotbed because of the Monarchy does have some flaws .

Nobody is saying all the sites have to be raised to the ground including Buck House .

[River Don]

Old sausage fingers is the end of the monarchy surely.

If the Monarchy ends, Copps, we'll lose billions in tourism.

Who the f*ck would want to come here to try and get a glimpse of Truss or Keith?

Tourists don't come to look at Monarchy. They come to look at buildings. France still makes plenty of money out of its defunct monarchy and tourists still dutifully visit sites like Versailles.

[Bentley Bullet]

Tyke, is Paris the most visited city in Europe BECAUSE the French got rid of their monarchy?

I pretty much doubt it but to say London is a tourist hotbed because of the Monarchy does have some flaws .

Nobody is saying all the sites have to be raised to the ground including Buck House .

But millions of people from here and overseas love and admire our monarchy. You don't have to like it, you have a choice not to, so why deprive those who do like it of a choice?

[tyke1962]

Tyke, is Paris the most visited city in Europe BECAUSE the French got rid of their monarchy?

I pretty much doubt it but to say London is a tourist hotbed because of the Monarchy does have some flaws .

Nobody is saying all the sites have to be raised to the ground including Buck House .

But millions of people from here and overseas love and admire our monarchy. You don't have to like it, you have a choice not to, so why deprive those who do like it of a choice?

It goes way way deeper than that BB , worthy of debate another time .

Besides there's always Madam Tussauds on Baker Street which is about as good as you get to Royal spot unless you've enough brass to hire a huge executive area at Ascot or Epsom for the day next to the chosen ones .

[IDM]

Or you could go pay your respects at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday.  You’ll see royalty there.. not sure how close these days.

[River Don]

Tyke, is Paris the most visited city in Europe BECAUSE the French got rid of their monarchy?

I pretty much doubt it but to say London is a tourist hotbed because of the Monarchy does have some flaws .

Nobody is saying all the sites have to be raised to the ground including Buck House .

But millions of people from here and overseas love and admire our monarchy. You don't have to like it, you have a choice not to, so why deprive those who do like it of a choice?

The answer to that is many people resent royalty living the magnificent lifestyles they do and actually having to contribute to that. And that is understandable, it is unfair and they have won one of the lotteries of life.

That said that view does not consider the PR role the royal family does play for the UK. Soft power, influence and that monarchy probably does stabilise political culture to some degree.

[tyke1962]

Or you could go pay your respects at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday.  You’ll see royalty there.. not sure how close these days.

But I wouldn't go just to see royalty , I'd go to pay my respects to the fallen who have served and defended  this country on the field of battle .

[SydneyRover]

Tyke, is Paris the most visited city in Europe BECAUSE the French got rid of their monarchy?

I pretty much doubt it but to say London is a tourist hotbed because of the Monarchy does have some flaws .

Nobody is saying all the sites have to be raised to the ground including Buck House .

But millions of people from here and overseas love and admire our monarchy. You don't have to like it, you have a choice not to, so why deprive those who do like it of a choice?

They do indeed Bentley

''WA proclaims the new Sovereign, King Charles III as Perth pays touching corgi tribute to Queen''

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/wa-proclamation-new-sovereign-king-charles/101427258

[IDM]

Or you could go pay your respects at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday.  You’ll see royalty there.. not sure how close these days.

But I wouldn't go just to see royalty , I'd go to pay my respects to the fallen who have served and defended  this country on the field of battle .

Yes me too, but the point I was making was to show there are other opportunities to see royalty relatively close..

[BobG]

Martin Turner was playing??? Since when has he been back in the band?! What happened to Bob Skeat???

BobG

It was the Martin Turner version, Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash. First time I have seen them and thought they were excellent.

Bob is still with Andy (as far as I know) and hoping to catch them again on their tour later this year.

Last time I saw the AndyP version was in Froome I suppose not very long before lockdowns started.

I haven't seen or heard anything about Ashcons for ages now. Did they abandon them? Used to go upto Mansfield (!!) regularly for those.

Bob

[Colin C No.3]

Been a while since Julius Caesar was around but tourists still go to roam.

Roam, Rome.

Whoosh BB!

[pib]

Old sausage fingers is the end of the monarchy surely.

If the Monarchy ends, Copps, we'll lose billions in tourism.

Who the f*ck would want to come here to try and get a glimpse of Truss or Keith?

Time to bump this: https://www.republic.org.uk/tourism

Among many salient points in that article is this:

"In their press statements they [VisitBritain] said the monarchy generates £500m a year in tourism revenue.

That simply isn’t true. And VisitBritain should have known it wasn’t true.

At the time Republic sent them a Freedom of Information request , asking for any internal documents relating to their press release. They sent us a memo from their research department to their press office pointing out that they had no evidence that the economy would be helped by a royal wedding.

We then took a closer look at that £500m figure VisitBritain had put out. To get to that figure they added up the revenue of every single ticketed visitor attraction that had even the slightest connection to royalty past or present. There was no evidence provided to suggest any of that revenue was because of the monarchy, rather than an interest in history or the merits of the individual attractions.

VisitBritain stopped using the figure, but the £500m still does the rounds, being endlessly repeated as fact by journalists, businesses and fact checkers.

It’s worth also pointing out that while £500m might sound a lot, it’s a tiny figure when compared to total GDP and Britain’s tourism industry. It’s actually smaller than the margin of error for calculating GDP, so even if it were lost to the economy the country wouldn’t notice.

That figure:

only represents 0.01% of the UK’s economy
just 0.3% of income from Britain’s tourism industry
1.9% of the UK’s heritage tourism.

So even when attracting people to the UK for our history and heritage the royals just don’t make any difference.

In 2018 Republic sent another freedom of information request to VisitBritain asking for any data or research they might have that showed the impact of the monarchy on tourism. They couldn’t provide any.

Yet the tourism line keeps getting repeated even while it’s admitted there is no evidence."

[Panda]

With the total MSM blackout of anything other than the Queen, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the rest of the world doesn't exist anymore. I (reluctantly) pay my TV licence fee for ALL news, not just saturation news on the Queen's death. Disgraceful.

Also, even on Talksport and Talkradio they have been banging on about the Queen relentlessly since last Thursday. God help us when Charles dies.

I might have to bite the bullet and get netflix then.

Mass hysteria taking hold again i see.

[nightporter]

With the total MSM blackout of anything other than the Queen, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the rest of the world doesn't exist anymore. I (reluctantly) pay my TV licence fee for ALL news, not just saturation news on the Queen's death. Disgraceful.

Also, even on Talksport and Talkradio they have been banging on about the Queen relentlessly since last Thursday. God help us when Charles dies.

I might have to bite the bullet and get netflix then.

Mass hysteria taking hold again i see.

Then you can watch all 4 seasons of The Crown

[selby]

  There are a few chosen ones on here I would like to know Just what they do like about anything in life in general, putting them all in a room would be a right hoot.
 

[Panda]

Mourners have been told by park officials not to leave Paddington Bear teddies, balloons or other 'unsuitable' items as tributes to the Queen.

Officials from Royal Parks charity said 'in the interests of sustainability, we ask visitors to only lay organic or compostable material'.

Can they not lay of the environmental b*llocks just for a few days??!

Totally insensitive IMO. There might be some young kid who has spent their pocket money on a Paddington teddy to lay down there and you get some jobsworth arseholes coming out with this nonsense.

Get a grip Royal Parks and show some gratitude.

[phil old leake]

Selby never a truer word spoken. The I hate everything and everyone brigade who disagree with every subject

[knockers]

I wish some bears were extinct!

[Panda]

God forbid anyone disagrees with a subject! 

[danumdon]

I wish some bears were extinct!

Apparently they are notorious for having phantom births and struggle to conceive. If only!!

[Colin C No.3]

Little wonder they have two black eyes.

[Panda]

GP's allowed to close on day of the funeral.

Not hospitals though.

That's fair..........


Meanwhile, people are already queuing outside Westminster Hall, 48 hours early for the Queen. I wouldn't go that far for my own mum! Madness.