The Queen

[Panda]

Just had a quick butchers at the procession right now on the beeb. Refreshing to see lots of people lined up and simply watching the procession and taking it all in. Still obviously a load of numbskulls there with their arms stuck in the air just to film it on their mobiles though, which is probably the real reason why they are there, but a surprising number of normal people just experiencing the procession as it is instead of through a camera lens.

Restores my faith back in a bit in human courtesy and common sense.

Now, back to the Italian footy on BT.

[tyke1962]

Defiantly a day where the cost of something and the value of it gets totally smashed out of the park .

Ain't no Republican can really criticise this credibly in my opinion .

The UK at its finest .

[Sprotyrover]

The Queen God bless her a very subtle message at the start of the service at Windsor, Russian Orthodox Kontakion for the departed!,
A gesture to her ex husband or an expression of her beliefs?
Rest in Peace.

[Panda]

Defiantly a day where the cost of something and the value of it gets totally smashed out of the park .

Ain't no Republican can really criticise this credibly in my opinion .

The UK at its finest .

Well they can. It is usually known by the term, equality. Certainly, equality at birth.

These people worshipping the Queen. They don't realise that they are the same as her. A human being and therefore no human being is above any others.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Panda I think most there have the primary connection to her as a human being. As such the funeral should be minimalist. The sight of the various Lords and Ladies etc hauling a wagon with a rope would be fitting there. But that's not what she or the event is about.

The other side is the politics internationally and at home. This is about trying to show there are those above and those below. Not the primary reason why folks are there perhaps, but it islll very much in the mix at least subconsciously and backs up why ordinary people are treated like shte by those in power, elected or not.

[Filo]

Defiantly a day where the cost of something and the value of it gets totally smashed out of the park .

Ain't no Republican can really criticise this credibly in my opinion .

The UK at its finest .

Well they can. It is usually known by the term, equality. Certainly, equality at birth.

These people worshipping the Queen. They don't realise that they are the same as her. A human being and therefore no human being is above any others.

Give it a rest!

[tyke1962]

Defiantly a day where the cost of something and the value of it gets totally smashed out of the park .

Ain't no Republican can really criticise this credibly in my opinion .

The UK at its finest .

Well they can. It is usually known by the term, equality. Certainly, equality at birth.

These people worshipping the Queen. They don't realise that they are the same as her. A human being and therefore no human being is above any others.

It is possible to separate an event of this historical magnitude , display of pageantry , colour and sheer splendour seen by the world and feel proud from the woman in the coffin and what it represents .

I'm as good an example as any .

[Metalmicky]

Glad to have watched the ceremony - my boss (for 24 years) is safely in her place... the pageantry is compulsory and I personally love to see it..... what would be a better alternative?

I don't want to see an off the shelf funeral - send her down with some pomp - do it big and grand.
I'm proud, I've shed tears, and it was a great send off for HM the Queen.

[wilts rover]

Kwasi Kwateng, Chancellor of the Exchequer and second most senior politician in government, laughs when taking a phone message whilst sat in Westminster Abbey waiting for the funeral service for HM The Queen to begin:

https://twitter.com/LouisHenwood/status/1571939308948574208

[danumdon]

Defiantly a day where the cost of something and the value of it gets totally smashed out of the park .

Ain't no Republican can really criticise this credibly in my opinion .

The UK at its finest .

Well they can. It is usually known by the term, equality. Certainly, equality at birth.

These people worshipping the Queen. They don't realise that they are the same as her. A human being and therefore no human being is above any others.

It is possible to separate an event of this historical magnitude , display of pageantry , colour and sheer splendour seen by the world and feel proud from the woman in the coffin and what it represents .

I'm as good an example as any .

Tyke i think you may be wasting your breath with some elements on here, rash and crude sentiment is not really required but will be spouted from some, if they really can't accept this then surely staying quiet is the done thing.

It stands to reason that many on here will be anti monarchy and of a republican nature but i do think we do this state pageantry like no other.

Its a fitting send off for a woman who devoted her life and soul to her work. The whys and wherefores can wait for another time but to see the turnout of foreign leaders there does go to show that our Soft Power is still at the top of the tree and does not diminish our place in the world but underpins it.

Good send off for someone who deserved it.

(from a republican minded person)

[scawsby steve]

Like everyone else then? Susannah Reid and David Beckham are just people. No big deal if they queue like the rest really. Don't see why they are being singled out for praise for doing what everyone else has done.

You've completely missed the point, Panda. They're not being singled out from everyone else who queued, they're being singled out from the cretins that cheated their way in without queuing.

[SydneyRover]

Nobody cheated Steve, it's how a hierarchical society works, you've seen it writ large today, you just have to know your place is all.

[selby]

  It looks as if there is going to be a review into the government support into the royal purse which is about £84 million a year, as it has been pointed out that due to the royals owning much of the sea bed to the 12 mile limit, they are set to receive income of billions from the rent so to speak of the land the offshore wind mills stand on.
 Not a bad pick up.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Hard to find adequate words to describe that historical occasion with so much love, respect and admiration for our former Queen together with the historical protocol.

As said above, the way it's viewed far and wide tells you we have some great British values and traditions we should celebrate and appreciate more often.

[Filo]

It is estimated 63% of the World population watch the events yesterday

[auckleyflyer]

Thing that worried me is the lack of women, I know they've only got 70yrs ago as reference but the world has moved on??! Especially as we were seeing off a Queen! And the last queen anyone alive will probably see?
Wonderful pageantry and fitting for a wonderful monarch but just recon there should have been more women and minorities? especially as we linked her so much with support of the commonwealth

[Muttley]

It is estimated 63% of the World population watch the events yesterday

Figures for the UK are that 29million tuned in - less than 50% of the population, so I'm struggling to believe that estimate for the whole world.

As a comparison, 31 million in the UK watched the England v Italy Euros final.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/20/about-250000-people-queued-to-see-queens-coffin-in-london-says-minister

[BahrainRover]

It is estimated 63% of the World population watch the events yesterday

Figures for the UK are that 29million tuned in - less than 50% of the population, so I'm struggling to believe that estimate for the whole world.

As a comparison, 31 million in the UK watched the England v Italy Euros final.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/20/about-250000-people-queued-to-see-queens-coffin-in-london-says-minister

Muttley,

This can be very distorted and low on the grounds of how many were actually there in London or lining the route. People may also have attended the large outdoor screens around the country or watched in the many cinemas showing or more likely pubs.

[Colin C No.3]

In 1977 the Morecombe & Wise Christmas Show drew a tv audience of 28.8 million.

[Colemans Left Hook]

In 1977 the Morecombe & Wise Christmas Show drew a tv audience of 28.8 million.

that was 45 years ago so needs grossing up by 20%  (just checked the population increase)   that excludes todays 390 new arrivals from France

[IDM]

I for one hope the coffin bearer team all get medals.

All the other military pageantry and parades should be as close to perfection as you can get, but the odd mistake may go unnoticed except by a few.

But the coffin bearers could not put a foot wrong.  Nor did they.

[Panda]

Bit weird. No cause of death given yet?

[BahrainRover]

Bit weird. No cause of death given yet?

Does there need to be one given? I doubt very much it was suspicious circumstances. As Lemmy once sang, maybe she was simply killed by death?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Maybe Truss told her what was going to be in the Budget?

[IDM]

Bit weird. No cause of death given yet?

She was 96.  Not exactly weird. 

[phil old leake]

BST maybe she’d heard about the Labour files

[Panda]

Maybe Truss told her what was going to be in the Budget?

Haha i know. She died of shock at all the extra wealth that would have been accumulated.

[SydneyRover]

''The BBC, ITV and Sky News have been given until Monday to produce a 60-minute compilation of clips they would like to keep from ceremonial events held across the 10 days of mourning for the Queen. The royal household will then consider whether to veto any proposed inclusions.

Once the process is complete, the vast majority of other footage from ceremonial events will then be taken out of circulation. Any news outlets wishing to use unapproved pieces of footage would have to apply to the royal family on a case-by-case basis, even for material that has already been broadcast to tens of millions of people''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/25/uk-broadcasters-battle-monarchy-over-control-of-queens-memorial-footage

Public broadcasters presumably invited by 'the palace' are now being dictated as to how much footage they can use, produced at their own expense?? and all paid for in the end by the public.

And

''Royal family given veto on use of footage of Queen’s funeral
Exclusive: Five short pieces of video removed from circulation under agreement between broadcasters and Buckingham Palace''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/22/royal-family-veto-footage-coverage-queen-elizabeth-ii-funeral

Anyone?

[IDM]

It is unusual because the amount of media coverage now is I assume vastly more than the last time our monarch died.  However should the crown retain editorial control of continued coverage of the funeral etc?  Maybe they should, it was one of their family members after all.

In all honesty I don’t really care.  It’s done, I watched it, but I have more pressing concerns in my own existence..

[SydneyRover]

Fair enough IDM, most people have plenty going on. It's strange that it is an afterthought and therefore retrospective, legally I wouldn't think any of it is subject to copyright and therefore  compliance would be voluntary.