truss

[wilts rover]

Apparently Truss has been nicknamed 'Daggers' among the city traders. From Dagenham (two stops past Barking).

[wilts rover]

Yougov 23rd-25th September

Labour 45%
Tories 28%
Libs 9%

Biggest Labour lead YouGov have ever had in 21 years of polling.

https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1574498355090276378

[SydneyRover]

looks as though the only thing that could possibly save this government is a sudden end to the war.

[Glyn_Wigley]

looks as though the only thing that could possibly save this government is a sudden end to the war.

That or find an excuse to join in and declare war on Russia!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here we go.

https://mobile.twitter.com/christophe_read/status/1574512397162876929

Step 1: Use the inflation crisis to pour money towards the rich, paid for by borrowing.

Step 2: Use the borrowing crisis as a reason not to fund public services to deal with inflation.

Still. They're all the same, eh?

[BillyStubbsTears]

PS.

Surely, SURELY they aren't going to make the same mistake AGAIN and cut capital investment like Osborne did a decade ago.

Capital investment is absolutely crucial if we are going to get long term growth going again. Surely even this lot couldn't be so stupid as not to see that?

[SydneyRover]

I'm sure there is a rational explanation for all this but obviously KK wants to see how bad the economy the markets and the pound will get before he rides to the recue in a couple of months with some soothing words.

My thinking is he has confused the UK economy with crashing a satellite into an asteroid and it will all come good provided the asteroid is not redirected to hit the UK.

[Filo]

Yougov 23rd-25th September

Labour 45%
Tories 28%
Libs 9%

Biggest Labour lead YouGov have ever had in 21 years of polling.

https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1574498355090276378

A result like that would give Labour 182 seat majority

[Donnywolf]

Apparently Truss has been nicknamed 'Daggers' among the city traders. From Dagenham (two stops past Barking).

I love that Wilts .... made me smile (roversdude and Raithy please note)

I would have laughed probably but it's message is serious ... she is a horrible choice made by the Tory Membership which Electorally they may regret

I will wait for 10.01 pm on the next Election Day for the Exit Poll to see if it did

[mugnapper]

Your ‘Super Soaraway Sun’ the only National newspaper not to lead with the financial mess their preferred candidate has created.

They choose to lead with a story about some random bloke, who left his British bird for a Ukrainian bird. Now he’s dumped the Ukrainian bird, but the British bird won’t have him back.

They get the big stories, don’t they?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's a bizarre thing.

Kwarteng is talking absolute voodoo economics and if the markets think he's going to be in charge long term, the £ will be absolutely cratered.

But the polls are strongly showing that he'll not be in charge by the end of 2024, and a grown up like Reeves will take over.

That puts a limit on how bad the forecasts from the financial markets will be.

So, weirdly, the best chance for Truss is if Labour stay well ahead in the polls for now and the market panic eases.

Politics eh? Bloody hell.

PS. Obviously the best chance for Truss is to have her own Govt have an economic policy that's not absolutely batshit, but that might be asking a bit too much.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Meanwhile, since the hedge funders on the far right of the Tory party appear to have made a killing yesterday shorting British debt, might as well try to make a few Bob out of this shit show.

11/4 that Truss is booted out by the Tory party before the next election.

9/4 and shortening this morning.

Get your bets on.

2/1 and shortening.

Tory MPs are briefing that letters of no confidence in Truss have already started to be submitted to the 1922 Committee.

Don't say I didn't tell you.

7/4 and shortening.

[Ldr]

Meanwhile, since the hedge funders on the far right of the Tory party appear to have made a killing yesterday shorting British debt, might as well try to make a few Bob out of this shit show.

11/4 that Truss is booted out by the Tory party before the next election.

9/4 and shortening this morning.

Get your bets on.

2/1 and shortening.

Tory MPs are briefing that letters of no confidence in Truss have already started to be submitted to the 1922 Committee.

Don't say I didn't tell you.

7/4 and shortening.

Please let this be true

[BillyStubbsTears]

Meanwhile, since the hedge funders on the far right of the Tory party appear to have made a killing yesterday shorting British debt, might as well try to make a few Bob out of this shit show.

11/4 that Truss is booted out by the Tory party before the next election.

9/4 and shortening this morning.

Get your bets on.

2/1 and shortening.

Tory MPs are briefing that letters of no confidence in Truss have already started to be submitted to the 1922 Committee.

Don't say I didn't tell you.

7/4 and shortening.

Please let this be true

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/liz-truss-conservative-party-leader-at-next-general-election/bet-history/no

Click "All History". With William Hill the odds on here not lasting till the Election have shortened from 3/1 to 7/4 since Friday.

[wilts rover]

Meanwhile, since the hedge funders on the far right of the Tory party appear to have made a killing yesterday shorting British debt, might as well try to make a few Bob out of this shit show.

11/4 that Truss is booted out by the Tory party before the next election.

9/4 and shortening this morning.

Get your bets on.

2/1 and shortening.

Tory MPs are briefing that letters of no confidence in Truss have already started to be submitted to the 1922 Committee.

Don't say I didn't tell you.

7/4 and shortening.

Please let this be true

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/liz-truss-conservative-party-leader-at-next-general-election/bet-history/no

Click "All History". With William Hill the odds on here not lasting till the Election have shortened from 3/1 to 7/4 since Friday.

The way she is going, Not lasting until Christmas, is well worth a punt.

[scawsby steve]

F*ck me, is Boris coming back?

You wouldn't put it past them.

[River Don]

F*ck me, is Boris coming back?

You wouldn't put it past them.

Sunak repeatedly said borrowing to fund tax cuts was dangerous. I expect even he is suprised how rapidly this is unfolding.

Maybe not a return to Boris but if they could find a way to usher out Truss, perhaps they could stabilise things with Sunak. Probably impossible.

[BillyStubbsTears]

F*ck me, is Boris coming back?

You wouldn't put it past them.

Sunak repeatedly said borrowing to fund tax cuts was dangerous. I expect even he is suprised how rapidly this is unfolding.

Maybe not a return to Boris but if they could find a way to usher out Truss, perhaps they could stabilise things with Sunak. Probably impossible.

Golden rule of economics, that is.

We've had 15 years of being told that Labour's economic policies were somewhere between incompetent and Marxist and folk have swallowed it.

Not once. Not ONCE in all that time did Labour EVER propose borrowing to fund tax cuts. They have only ever proposed choosing to borrow in order to find capital infrastructure.

[grayx]

F*ck me, is Boris coming back?

You wouldn't put it past them.

Sunak repeatedly said borrowing to fund tax cuts was dangerous. I expect even he is suprised how rapidly this is unfolding.

Maybe not a return to Boris but if they could find a way to usher out Truss, perhaps they could stabilise things with Sunak. Probably impossible.

Its as if Truss is deliberately trying to piss Sunak off by doing pretty much everything he didnt want to.

[ravenrover]

When Truss goes, only one name on the ballot paper. The Tories are running scared about losing their seat at next GE they need someobe who they think will keep them in a job, so who you gonna turn to?

[drfchound]

I was amazed when she got the job.

[Glyn_Wigley]

When Truss goes, only one name on the ballot paper. The Tories are running scared about losing their seat at next GE they need someobe who they think will keep them in a job, so who you gonna turn to?

If they do, they'll become unelectable for another two reasons:

1. You can't knife two leaders in the back in quick succession without it affecting the electability of the party as a whole regardless of who they elect leader next time.

2. It'll underline the paucity of talent at the top of the party. That was down to Boris chucking of a lot of decent people out of the party because they disagreed with him about Brexit. They haven't got them back, leading to the undignified sight of someone as useless as Nadine Dorries in the Cabinet through lack of choice. The only person I can think of that might - but only might - overcome this is Ben Wallace. (Possibly why he kept his powder dry last time). Sunak's too tainted, he needs a couple of years at least to let the memories fade.

[Ldr]

Glyn, from someone as you know leans centre right. They already ARE unelectable and have been for some time. The more I hear out of this labour conference the more likely I am to vote Labour, hope a lot of it does actually make the manifesto

[Glyn_Wigley]

I did say another two reasons! 

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Glyn, from someone as you know leans centre right. They already ARE unelectable and have been for some time. The more I hear out of this labour conference the more likely I am to vote Labour, hope a lot of it does actually make the manifesto

This, labour have largely plonked theirselves in a position the Tories were in, they've clearly moved to the right which I imagine is frustrating for a lot on the left.

Labour will be fairly limited by their own fiscal rules if they seriously want to avoid positions like we are in now. Very difficult for them aswell and they would be well worth making it clear they won't come in and offer huge spending increases etc.

It's like their energy company announcement. It's fairly sensible and doesn't replace private companies but it will take a long time and money to implement.

[SydneyRover]

Were in when pud?

[Redroy]

Glyn, from someone as you know leans centre right. They already ARE unelectable and have been for some time. The more I hear out of this labour conference the more likely I am to vote Labour, hope a lot of it does actually make the manifesto

This, labour have largely plonked theirselves in a position the Tories were in, they've clearly moved to the right which I imagine is frustrating for a lot on the left.

Labour will be fairly limited by their own fiscal rules if they seriously want to avoid positions like we are in now. Very difficult for them aswell and they would be well worth making it clear they won't come in and offer huge spending increases etc.

It's like their energy company announcement. It's fairly sensible and doesn't replace private companies but it will take a long time and money to implement.

I don't really think they need to do that BFYP given how this lot have stripped the place, and then still managed trash it (despite having cut it to the bone through austerity). Just need to hold a steady course and let these disasters continue being a disaster.

[Colin C No.3]

When Truss goes, only one name on the ballot paper. The Tories are running scared about losing their seat at next GE they need someobe who they think will keep them in a job, so who you gonna turn to?

Ghostbusters?

[Filo]

The Chancellor is asking UK bankers not to bet against the pound!

No idea so he’ll just ask them nicely ffs!

[SydneyRover]

The same bankers just given freedom to get unlimited bonuses, they'll eat him alive regardless, there's no sentiment in business.