Nelson

[ForsolongaRover]

Schofield probably figures that it is easier to coach youngsters than older players who may resist change. This may not be entirely justified, but it does provide a rationale.

[Upton Rover]

Wish them both the best of luck and hope they do well for us, still not sure what Copps is try to achieve

[bpoolrover]

I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.

From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.

We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.

Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.

Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?

What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?

because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work

[steve@dcfd]

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From Campsall
We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.

No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today

[normal rules]

I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.

From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.

We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.

Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.

Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?

What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?

because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work

This. Speculate to accumulate.
The alternative is boom and bust.

[steve@dcfd]

We should not be digging at the young players they’ll come s do their best we will see if it will be good enough.
But the level of players that we bring in now is hope and development. So we hope they do ok.

[Branton Red]

I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.

From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.

We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.

Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.

Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?

What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?

because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work

The evidence is against you.

We're a handful of points off the play offs with barely giving any game time to youth loanees this season so far. Perfectly competitive.

The top 3 in League 2 have players on loan: -

Orient have 5 loanees aged 22, 21, 22, 20 and 25

Stevenage 5 loanees aged 21, 23, 30, 28 and 20

Northampton 3 loaness aged 21, 20 and 24.

(Two of the 20 year olds have only just signed and have just played 1 game between them this season so far.)

Not a single teenage youth loan in sight.

[bpoolrover]

I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.

From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.

We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.

Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.

Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?

What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?

because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work

The evidence is against you.

We're a handful of points off the play offs with barely giving any game time to youth loanees this season so far. Perfectly competitive.

The top 3 in League 2 have players on loan: -

Orient have 5 loanees aged 22, 21, 22, 20 and 25

Stevenage 5 loanees aged 21, 23, 30, 28 and 20

Northampton 3 loaness aged 21, 20 and 24.

Not a single teenage youth loan in sight.

I have no problem with loan players, and we are competitive due to there being many awful teams in this division, you would have hoped we would have been competitive towards the top 3 not to get in the play offs

[Danmckay456]

We don’t we look at adding experience instead of youngsters on loan hardly many have come off recently ; miller is in desperate need of a strike partner and get him firing again , is it a prerequisite that it’s the cheaper option before a permanent nearly every time in January when we need to build on what little we have

[Donnybax]

I think it looks a decent signing. As does the right back

[Colemans Left Hook]

Admiral? Give us a clue.

no Leicester have loaned the Admiral out to "aptly named" FLEETWOOD for the season

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/admiral-muskwe/profil/spieler/314378

[Campsall rover]

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From Campsall
We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.

No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today

Your correct there are exceptions.
He has though only played 7 games in England for Rotherham.
The others games around 120 are in those two Mickey Mouse leagues known as the Scottish Championship and Scottish Premier league. 

Don’t forget we have discarded many players over the years to those two leagues because they are no better than League 1 and League 2 in England.  Barring Celtic and Rangers who would be on par with our Championship clubs.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Managers stand and fall by their signings, Nelson could be Schofield’s, Waterloo!

[roversdude]

Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks

[Campsall rover]

Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks

Absolutely.

Wilks was 19 I think when he first came to us and Kane I think 20

[eastender]

Managers stand and fall by their signings, Nelson could be Schofield’s, Waterloo!

Or more likely his Trafalgar.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Yes just sounded better Waterloo.

[knockers]

Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks

Absolutely.

Wilks was 19 I think when he first came to us and Kane I think 20

Wilks was also built like a brick shithouse meaning that he could handle himself rather than being ten stone wet through. Herbie was also on the chunky side!

[normal rules]

Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks

Absolutely.

Wilks was 19 I think when he first came to us and Kane I think 20

Wilks was also built like a brick shithouse meaning that he could handle himself rather than being ten stone wet through. Herbie was also on the chunky side!

Cukur was a lump, but the least said about him the better.

[idler]

Yes just sounded better Waterloo.

Nelson had been dead almost ten years though by the time Waterloo was fought though Sammy.

[ravenrover]

I know it p!ssed it down the night before the battle but not enough for boats.
It floated my boat though when my son and I went on a guided tour of the battle site many years ago

[drfchound]

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From Campsall
We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.

No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today

Your correct there are exceptions.
He has though only played 7 games in England for Rotherham.
The others games around 120 are in those two Mickey Mouse leagues known as the Scottish Championship and Scottish Premier league. 

Don’t forget we have discarded many players over the years to those two leagues because they are no better than League 1 and League 2 in England.  Barring Celtic and Rangers who would be on par with our Championship clubs.

TBF though Camps, 120 games in those leagues, mens football, is better than most of the young player loanees that we often get when their first game for us is often their mens league debuts.

[Campsall rover]

Quote
From Campsall
We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.

No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today

Your correct there are exceptions.
He has though only played 7 games in England for Rotherham.
The others games around 120 are in those two Mickey Mouse leagues known as the Scottish Championship and Scottish Premier league. 

Don’t forget we have discarded many players over the years to those two leagues because they are no better than League 1 and League 2 in England.  Barring Celtic and Rangers who would be on par with our Championship clubs.

TBF though Camps, 120 games in those leagues, mens football, is better than most of the young player loanees that we often get when their first game for us is often their mens league debuts.

I was just being a bit sarcastic really, possibly a little disrespectful with ref to the Scottish Leagues.
Yes it is Mens pro football, and you can’t buy that experience.

[ncRover]

Scottish championship is probably Conference level?

[Campsall rover]

Scottish championship is probably Conference level?

I would say League 2 but point taken. The standard is not great is it?  Quite a few National league teams are top end League 2 standard. 

[ncRover]

Scottish championship is probably Conference level?

I would say League 2 but point taken. The standard is not great is it?  Quite a few National league teams are top end League 2 standard. 

Agreed if Wrexham and Notts both come up they will be promotion rivals straight away.

[selby]

  I wish this lad all the luck in the world, I sincerely hope he does well for us and all through  his career, but this is and has been since the Kings Lynn debacle a PR disaster for the club who have undermined the value of Bobby Faulkner to the club  by ridiculous loose talk by senior management personnel, poor administration of his career, and unfortunately for Nelson who is going to be caught in the middle of a comparison with a youngster of our own that has been one of the few successes we have had this season and become a fans favourite, and by the same token have disillusioned a young player who just months ago would have run through a brick wall for the club and always wanted to do well and give his all for the shirt, quite a difference to the attitude portrayed by a lot of the players we have fielded this season.
  I sometimes question the world wise education some people have in the football industry.  Over the years we have had more than our fair share of poor decisions and publicity.

[drfchound]

  I wish this lad all the luck in the world, I sincerely hope he does well for us and all through  his career, but this is and has been since the Kings Lynn debacle a PR disaster for the club who have undermined the value of Bobby Faulkner to the club  by ridiculous loose talk by senior management personnel, poor administration of his career, and unfortunately for Nelson who is going to be caught in the middle of a comparison with a youngster of our own that has been one of the few successes we have had this season and become a fans favourite, and by the same token have disillusioned a young player who just months ago would have run through a brick wall for the club and always wanted to do well and give his all for the shirt, quite a difference to the attitude portrayed by a lot of the players we have fielded this season.
  I sometimes question the world wise education some people have in the football industry.  Over the years we have had more than our fair share of poor decisions and publicity.

Well, that sounds to me like Bobby won’t be extending his contract with us when the time comes and will be looking to move to another club where he might be valued a little more.

I suspect that selby knows a bit more than he is actually saying there.

[Alan Southstand]

Are you saying Faulkner is no longer interested in being a DRFC player, then?

[Colemans Left Hook]

Yes just sounded better Waterloo.

So Nelson is coming to fly the flag for us with their manager's blessing ( The jolly roger ), he said he will keep "one eye" on him and told Schofield to put "one arm" around him.   Nelson was so pleased with the loan that he said he would play on "one leg" for us